I thought the supplies were set on fire because the carts were made if wood and there were people near them.
If they were destroying the supplies it was to starve out King's Landing for the upcoming siege. The dragonfire looked pretty effective at scorching the earth and everything around it on its own without the help of props.
A few scenes earlies Danny was lamenting the Lannisters taking all the supplies that would feed her Dothraki. I think they were there for spectacle, rather than it be shot after shot of people being turned to ash.
The show being what it is, it really shouldn't pull it's punches about killing either Jamie or Bronn, but both did hit the water in the final scene.
Neither are dead IMO. I think if they'd wanted to kill one off the dragon would have fried them. Both avoided that scenario, Bronn by jumping from the giant crossbow and Jaime because someone pushed him into the water. I think it was probably Bronn. Bronn wears little armour and would be able to swim and thus would be able to pull Jaime out of the water too. Dickon was also in full plate which would likely mean they would both sink and die. The other alternative is that Dickon DID save Jaime and Dickon will die but Bronn will still pull Jaime out.
It was Bronn - white horse, he looked at an abandoned white horse after avoiding the dragon fire.
Rickon Dickon was on a brown horse.
I assumed it was Bronn so that detail confirms it, thanks.
Presumably the few carts that were destroyed didn't represent the entirety of the grain available, and indeed only moments earlier they were talking about Bronn going to hurry the farmers along in harvesting and loading the grain. Therefore the Dothraki, having removed the Lannister army, can simply take any grain they want directly from the farms the Lannisters were taking it from.
I thought that Littlefinger has been up to something since the series began, but they started making it too obvious last night like they want everyone to assume he's up to something. Thinking perhaps he's not now and that he'll be killed off, presumably by Arya and the dagger.
Felt a bit bloodthirsty towards the end, wanted a main character to go, nothing against them and I enjoy their characters but was hoping either Bronn or Jaime.
I really liked the Littlefinger scene. He's just banged on about knowing every angle, then a kid turns up he thought was dead, a kid that he has no idea what he's been up to, and crucially, has no clue what his plans are. Then, when fishing for info, he gets a hint of something but gets interrupted, he does an amazing eye twitch/ blink. I thought it was a briallitnly played scene.
Also, while the dagger is a nice callback to when he basically started the war, I actually think the main reason it was reintroduced was to give Arya a cool weapon to kill a hundred Wights with in ana amazing action sequence next season.
I think a message has been sent across Westeros...when picking sides, pick the one with dragons.
Not sure if that scorpion is going to be any good. They only managed to bring down one dragon with it, but if all three attack at once then what next? It is also completely immobile. How many are they planning on building? Would need a battery of them to stand a chance.
I thought that Littlefinger has been up to something since the series began, but they started making it too obvious last night like they want everyone to assume he's up to something. Thinking perhaps he's not now and that he'll be killed off, presumably by Arya and the dagger.
Felt a bit bloodthirsty towards the end, wanted a main character to go, nothing against them and I enjoy their characters but was hoping either Bronn or Jaime.
I really liked the Littlefinger scene. He's just banged on about knowing every angle, then a kid turns up he thought was dead, a kid that he has no idea what he's been up to, and crucially, has no clue what his plans are. Then, when fishing for info, he gets a hint of something but gets interrupted, he does an amazing eye twitch/ blink. I thought it was a briallitnly played scene.
Also, while the dagger is a nice callback to when he basically started the war, I actually think the main reason it was reintroduced was to give Arya a cool weapon to kill a hundred Wights with in ana amazing action sequence next season.
But do you believe he really loves Sansa and the protection of Catelyn's children is his primary motivation? This was the guy who started the war of five kings, who's every step has been one closer to the iron throne. He has already been rejected by Sansa last season and Jon this. Bran is now the de facto Lord in Wintefell, even though he doesn't want it, so his overtures towards make sense. I took the eye twitch as how could Bran know the phrase "Chaos is a ladder" as Baelish has only said it to Varys, he knows that Bran is on to him. I just don't understand what he is trying to achieve at the moment, just hanging around to be killed as far as I can tell. I wonder does Littlefinger recognise Arya from when she was cup bearer to Tywin and how does she feel about him.
I agree with you that the dagger will play a far greater part in the next season. I'm glad they have managed to make Arya appear as bad ass on the screen as she should be, can't wait to see how her story comes to a close. It's been a great pay off so far for one of the best journeys in the book.
I thought that Littlefinger has been up to something since the series began, but they started making it too obvious last night like they want everyone to assume he's up to something. Thinking perhaps he's not now and that he'll be killed off, presumably by Arya and the dagger.
Felt a bit bloodthirsty towards the end, wanted a main character to go, nothing against them and I enjoy their characters but was hoping either Bronn or Jaime.
I really liked the Littlefinger scene. He's just banged on about knowing every angle, then a kid turns up he thought was dead, a kid that he has no idea what he's been up to, and crucially, has no clue what his plans are. Then, when fishing for info, he gets a hint of something but gets interrupted, he does an amazing eye twitch/ blink. I thought it was a briallitnly played scene.
Also, while the dagger is a nice callback to when he basically started the war, I actually think the main reason it was reintroduced was to give Arya a cool weapon to kill a hundred Wights with in ana amazing action sequence next season.
But do you believe he really loves Sansa and the protection of Catelyn's children is his primary motivation? This was the guy who started the war of five kings, who's every step has been one closer to the iron throne. He has already been rejected by Sansa last season and Jon this. Bran is now the de facto Lord in Wintefell, even though he doesn't want it, so his overtures towards make sense. I took the eye twitch as how could Bran know the phrase "Chaos is a ladder" as Baelish has only said it to Varys, he knows that Bran is on to him. I just don't understand what he is trying to achieve at the moment, just hanging around to be killed as far as I can tell. What I wonder is, does Littlefinger recognise Arya from when she was cup bearer to Tywin and how does she feel about him.
I agree with you that the dagger will play a far greater part in the next season. I'm glad they have managed to make Arya appear as bad ass on the screen as she should be, can't wait to see how her story comes to a close. It's been a great pay off so far for one of the best journeys in the book.
I thought the look of shock was the reaction to the chaos line, the eye twitch was a look of irritation, because he knew he wouldn't be able to dig any deeper when the door opened! He can't see every angle!
I believe Littlefinger is only in it for the power, and he's attached himself to the Sansa vehicle to get there. From a character arc perspective, it's hard to tell where the writers would take him from here if it's not all the way to the throne. Unless the "I'd have taken the dagger myself" line was foreshadowing, and he's going to redeem himself by sacrificing himself for Sansa. That would, ironically, be quite a shock!
Could be nothing but I think Littlefinger stood next to the Ravens might mean something i.e hes gonna send off some vital information about Jon Snow to get rid of him?!
Great episode......surely the water wasn't that deep where they were??
I thought the same, where in the world does the water get that deep, that quickly
The Norwegian Fjords ... 400 m deep sometimes ...
Scottish lochs can get almost as deep as that (presumably both the lochs and fjords are glacial which explains it) but I doubt they get 400m deep inches from the bank.
They mentioned on thronecast about Jaime Lannister 'falling' to the bottom of the lake, in the same manner Bran fell when he was pushed from the tower. Could be something to do with linking that as I can't see the directors making the water seem that deep when, as someone mentioned, the horses were running through it a matter of seconds before
GRRM makes it very clear in a preface to the books that the story is told in chapters which may vary in length from minutes to months so they will overlap and we do not necessarily get the story in chronological order
The time inconsistency thing has been covered several times. It would have taken weeks, for them to round up the grain and to get it back to where they were when they were attacked. In previous seasons, the events in Essos were likely happening many months before the events in Westeros shown in the same episodes were taking place. Even the time it would have taken Jaime to go from Riverrun back to King's Landing to witness the coronation would have taken weeks, yet both his siege and the wildfire explosion happened in the same episode.
Also, the whole 'Jaime drowning in a river' scene, I'm sure this will be cleared up next episode but I imagine it was more metaphorical than him actually drowning in an inexplicable 50 foot drop of water, probably representing him blacking out in the face of that dragon almost incinerating him.
Only four comments thus far... I expected a bit more discussion as I enjoyed last night's episode. It was one of those that set the scene for so many loose ends coming together, bringing old characters back and pushing the general arc forward. Will they come together the way it seems from this episode, or will there be one or two twists still to come? Dun dun duhhhhhh.
Only four comments thus far... I expected a bit more discussion as I enjoyed last night's episode. It was one of those that set the scene for so many loose ends coming together, bringing old characters back and pushing the general arc forward. Will they come together the way it seems from this episode, or will there be one or two twists still to come? Dun dun duhhhhhh.
Wait until everyone is home from work and has watched it
I loved it, ended up watching it this morning at half 2 due to unusual circumstances
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Also, while the dagger is a nice callback to when he basically started the war, I actually think the main reason it was reintroduced was to give Arya a cool weapon to kill a hundred Wights with in ana amazing action sequence next season.
Usually see a couple on YouTube after that.
Not sure if that scorpion is going to be any good. They only managed to bring down one dragon with it, but if all three attack at once then what next? It is also completely immobile. How many are they planning on building? Would need a battery of them to stand a chance.
I agree with you that the dagger will play a far greater part in the next season. I'm glad they have managed to make Arya appear as bad ass on the screen as she should be, can't wait to see how her story comes to a close. It's been a great pay off so far for one of the best journeys in the book.
I believe Littlefinger is only in it for the power, and he's attached himself to the Sansa vehicle to get there. From a character arc perspective, it's hard to tell where the writers would take him from here if it's not all the way to the throne. Unless the "I'd have taken the dagger myself" line was foreshadowing, and he's going to redeem himself by sacrificing himself for Sansa. That would, ironically, be quite a shock!
Speculation is great with this show!! haha
Either way Jamie won't die, nor will Bronn.
GRRM makes it very clear in a preface to the books that the story is told in chapters which may vary in length from minutes to months so they will overlap and we do not necessarily get the story in chronological order
Someone was watching HBO instead alof Fox on Sunday night....
Also, the whole 'Jaime drowning in a river' scene, I'm sure this will be cleared up next episode but I imagine it was more metaphorical than him actually drowning in an inexplicable 50 foot drop of water, probably representing him blacking out in the face of that dragon almost incinerating him.
Thanks fuck I have dragonglass in my bag to counter the white walkers at westcombe park station this evening eh?
I loved it, ended up watching it this morning at half 2 due to unusual circumstances