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Southeastern train disruption (franchise to be taken over by Govt p191)

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  • Wilma
    Wilma Posts: 1,618
    Chaos at Dartford this morning, turned around and came back home. All due to the never ending signal failure at Lewisham that Network Rail won't fix! 
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,435
    edited November 2019
    And slippery rails apparently (?!)
  • Wilma
    Wilma Posts: 1,618
    Rizzo said:
    And slippery rails apparently (?!)
    Yes, that too. And someone pulled the emergency alarm, which now seems to be the go-to excuse for Southeastern's Twitter team! 
  • Anybody else miss @Mr.Largo's contributions to this thread?
    Sorry Mr. Largo, I know you really suffered for your art, but your rage-filled destruction of SE Railway did used to make me laugh.
    As for me, after 16 years commuting from Abbey Wood to Charing Cross (none of the capitol's stations had the prefix "London" in those days)  1971 to 1987, I quit my Civil Service career, my home, the stress and the rat race for the goldfish bowl existence of running a hotel business in Bournemouth. No regrets.
    Those were the days of freezing cold slam-door trains (where rain poured in when the windows were open); smoking carriages; smoking on the platforms; spontaneous wildcat strikes by ASLEF the train drivers union.
    A human being known as a ticket collector would check/collect your ticket at the station barriers (no automation).
    These hapless individuals, affiliated to the National Union of Railwaymen, would bear the brunt of commuter rage and verbal abuse (frequently racist) when the striking ASLEF drivers had caused delays/cancellations/disruption.
    The stress and inconvenience was frequently intolerable and the overcrowded travelling conditions occasionally downright dangerous.
    Having said all that, reading this thread I think you actually have it worse now (eg I can never remember a train changing route/destination mid-journey).
    You all have my sympathy
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,620
    edited November 2019
    Had to travel from Shepherdswell to Blackheath via Southeastern yesterday. Quite a decent journey there and back changing at Rainham and experiencing the new 700's.

    Only real problem was the tits that use the trains.  Does nobody carry a tissue any more?  Sniff sniff, fucking sniff from various people on the trains and in the waiting room at Faversham.

    Sort your noses out people.


  • Wilma
    Wilma Posts: 1,618
    There are signal problem between Dartford and Gravesend - same place as signal problems yesterday that NotworkRail said they'd fixed - so expect delays and cancellations on all services on all lines even if they go nowhere near Dartford or Gravesend! 
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,435
    Wilma said:
    There are signal problem between Dartford and Gravesend - same place as signal problems yesterday that NotworkRail said they'd fixed - so expect delays and cancellations on all services on all lines even if they go nowhere near Dartford or Gravesend! 


  • Anybody know what happend at Cannon Street this morning??. Trains all over the place because of 'passenger disturbance' on a train outside the station.
  • Anybody know what happend at Cannon Street this morning??. Trains all over the place because of 'passenger disturbance' on a train outside the station.

    It was Millwall waiting for Portsmouth.
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  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892
    Anybody know what happend at Cannon Street this morning??. Trains all over the place because of 'passenger disturbance' on a train outside the station.
    A number of passengers fainted when their train arrived on time.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,980
    Anybody know what happend at Cannon Street this morning??. Trains all over the place because of 'passenger disturbance' on a train outside the station.
    Some bloke broke into the drivers carriage and set off the trains horn. Apparently people said they could hear it from St Paul's it was that loud.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    edited November 2019
    Anybody know what happend at Cannon Street this morning??. Trains all over the place because of 'passenger disturbance' on a train outside the station.
    Some bloke broke into the drivers carriage and set off the trains horn. Apparently people said they could hear it from St Paul's it was that loud.
    Heard a rumour that platform and ticket office staff are planning a strike in protest at the disruption to their teabreak, and drivers and train crew are planning to are ask for assistance from Amnesty International after being woken up before midday.

    #jesuislazytossers
  • Glovepup
    Glovepup Posts: 1,743
    edited November 2019
    Not sure if been mentioned before, so apologies if I missed it. I was made aware of this ongoing saga today. There are also plans to for Thameslinks to run services from Maidstone to London Bridge and Maidstone which were supposed to have started months ago, these were put back to next month.... but a few weeks ago were again delayed due to them not wanting to cause a repeat of the TL timetable fiasco. Meanwhile whilst they can't sort themselves out trains are failing, so are either being short formed or cancelled. They need new stock and quickly!
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    ".....allowing the Government more time to review and award a winner for the next South Eastern franchise."

    That franchise was up for renewal in June 2018. They've already extended it about 5 times because they're too incompetent to make a decision. Pathetic.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    MrLargo said:
    ".....allowing the Government more time to review and award a winner for the next South Eastern franchise."

    That franchise was up for renewal in June 2018. They've already extended it about 5 times because they're too incompetent to make a decision. Pathetic.
    you should apply to run it mate
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    MrLargo said:
    ".....allowing the Government more time to review and award a winner for the next South Eastern franchise."

    That franchise was up for renewal in June 2018. They've already extended it about 5 times because they're too incompetent to make a decision. Pathetic.
    you should apply to run it mate
    I'm tempted. Reckon I could get everyone to work quicker if I just did shuttle runs in my car all morning. Would definitely provide better value for money, be less overcrowded than the train and you'd be able to sit on a seat that isn't infested with rabies

    Little treat for me today - catching the train up to London Bridge. Obviously it was an absolute shambles, 8.59 cancelled, 9.04 delayed by 9 minutes. Signal failure at Grove Park, which makes a nice change from "signal failure at Lewisham". Variety is the spice of life. C#*ts.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,230
    What no trespasser on the tracks or someone pulled the communication cord (is it still called that)?

    Sorry I forgot these are Thursday excuses.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    3 journeys on South Eastern this week, 3 delays. Apparently a 7 minute delay (9.52, Hither Green to St Johns, delayed 9.59) is only a "slight delay".

    It's f#*king not mate, it's a significant delay which meant that I had to jog back from the station in
    order to ensure I didn't miss the start of The Sweeney on ITV4.

    Also, whilst they couldn't be bothered to muster up an excuse for this morning's feeble service, they did take the time to announce that my train doesn't have any "toileting facilities". When did toilet become a verb?! Have any other nouns been turned into verbs? Does the fact that I am wearing trousers mean that I am "trousering"?

    Ridiculous.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    MrLargo said:
    3 journeys on South Eastern this week, 3 delays. Apparently a 7 minute delay (9.52, Hither Green to St Johns, delayed 9.59) is only a "slight delay".

    It's f#*king not mate, it's a significant delay which meant that I had to jog back from the station in
    order to ensure I didn't miss the start of The Sweeney on ITV4.

    Also, whilst they couldn't be bothered to muster up an excuse for this morning's feeble service, they did take the time to announce that my train doesn't have any "toileting facilities". When did toilet become a verb?! Have any other nouns been turned into verbs? Does the fact that I am wearing trousers mean that I am "trousering"?

    Ridiculous.

    They're the wankers that are trousering mate. Trousering our hard earned for a shit service.
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  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    Saw a big sign at Eltham station today that said there will be no trains for a whole week in February. (I assume half term?)

    Those with a yearly travel card should enjoy the rebate obviously and those on the Sidcup line should book their jabs in the new year to pre-empt the infestation. 


  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,812
    it's for 2 weeks I think that the Bexleyheath line is shut in Feb
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    oh blimey, i didn't even read the dates properly, just that it was more than a weekend. how grim is that going to be for all. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,980
    it's for 2 weeks I think that the Bexleyheath line is shut in Feb
    9 days, but 4 of those are on the weekend.
  • it's for 2 weeks I think that the Bexleyheath line is shut in Feb
    9 days, but 4 of those are on the weekend.
    Isn't that Corbyn's latest boast ....4 day weekends under Labour ? 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,847
    I finally took the plunge in registering for the old "delay repay" about a month ago. Thanks mainly to the militant signals at Lewisham ("one out, all out") I've had about a dozen repayments already - albeit it's only £1.30 a pop.

    Someone in work tried to tell me it was "good" that I'd got these repayments, until I pointed out that paying a rip-off amount up front for a monthly ticket wasn't some sort of fucking savings plan!
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    Sidcup line buggered. 
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    And the bus drivers to eltham decide to only half fill buses. Happy Monday. 
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    Eltham line buggered. 
  • Got an Uber all the way in today.  Will be claiming it back from Southeastern.  F***ing useless C***s.

    Got to Bexley at 05:15, no trains until at least 6am.  These jokers couldn't run a bath!