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Southeastern train disruption (franchise to be taken over by Govt p191)

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    I missed this thread. Welcome back.
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    The list of upcoming 'improvements' - apart from the last item, pretty unclear what each of them is, (though no doubt future delays will be blamed on these 'improvements'). A copy and paste by the author I think;

    "The improvements included:

    • Providing turnback capability at Hither Green, Grove Park and Lee – this means that more trains can run when there are unplanned delays or engineering works
    • Signalling control of the area will be transferred to the to the Three Bridges route control centre, helping to recover the service more quickly when there is an incident.
    • Track circuits – the train detection system, replaced with 254 more reliable axle counters.
    • 92 new signal heads, 58 new signals and nine new, easier maintained signal gantries built.
    • 24km of new power cable and 19km of new fibre cable installed.
    • 86 sets of points, enhanced to improving reliability of junctions.
    • Power supply upgraded and made more resilient.
    • Better signalling at Grove Park station to allow 12-car trains to stop at platform three during unplanned disruption – making it easier to keep passengers moving
    • Deep cleaning, painting, platform and canopy repairs at Chislehurst, Elmstead Woods, Grove Park, Sundridge Park, Bromley North, Lee, Mottingham and New Eltham stations."
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    Why are trains not stopping at falcon wood on the way home?
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    Earlier this morning, part of the track near Dartford was found to be damaged.

    The damage is quite extensive which means that the rail needs to be replaced. Network Rail will need to close the line in order to do this and it's estimated to remain closed until 08:00.

    Response staff are on site and have started work to fix the rail.

    Trains cannot run between Dartford and Slade Green or between Dartford and Barnehurst in either direction. Due to the position of the issue, this will cause significant disruption across our metro routes.

    There will be alterations to all services from Dartford with trains being diverted via Sidcup or cancelled.

    You can use your ticket on London Buses between Dartford and London Bridge via reasonable routes and you can also use your ticket on London Underground between our terminals to help complete your journey.

    Tickets are also being accepted on the DLR between Lewisham, Greenwich and Woolwich Arsenal.

    Please allow more time to reach your destination.

    https://www.southeasternrailway.co.uk/travel-information/live-travel-information/service-disruption?uq=637390279464580000#INCEA2611E6F1F74F1083B8B3EEED806774

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    Throw in a disruption to Thameslink's Rainham-Luton line, and signalling issues to Lewisham, and its a very frustrating morning. 
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    Amazing they haven't noticed the damage during the engineering work that they've been doing between Dartford & Slade Green for the past few weekends! 
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    Throw in a disruption to Thameslink's Rainham-Luton line, and signalling issues to Lewisham, and its a very frustrating morning. 
    It's almost as if all of the signalling upgrade work that they were boasting about a few months ago has had zero impact and they've effectively pissed away a significant chunk of their revenue on doing a load of work that has achieved literally nothing. This is so unexpected and out of character. C%$ts.
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    edited October 2020
    MrLargo said:
    Throw in a disruption to Thameslink's Rainham-Luton line, and signalling issues to Lewisham, and its a very frustrating morning. 
    It's almost as if all of the signalling upgrade work that they were boasting about a few months ago has had zero impact and they've effectively pissed away a significant chunk of their revenue on doing a load of work that has achieved literally nothing. This is so unexpected and out of character. C%$ts.
    They haven't finished yet, there is another line closure over Christmas for more work.

    https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/lewisham-rail-upgrades-continue-over-christmas-and-new-year
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    Yep, all Network Rail responsibility. If the damage is substantial its not just a broken rail. Perhaps a freight train ruined the track in the night?. Perhaps some lowlife has nicked some copper cables, hence no signals.  
    Off course they will work on the lines over Christmas.  How and when do you expect them to carry out necessary repairs or upgrades. Virtually no one travels to work over Christmas, in fact most people are working frome home anyway.  
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    Trains not stopping at London Bridge tonight 1632 to Slade Green 1644 to Crayford 1659 to Dartford 1706 to Hastings 1710 to Slade Green 1714 to Margate 1730 to Gravesend 1737 to Hayes 1741 to Hastings 1744 to Orpington 1752 to Barnehurst 1800 to Hayes 1805 to Crayford 1812 to Ramsgate 1814 to Slade Green 1816 to Dover Priory 1827 to Crayford 1829 to Strood 1838 to Barnehurst 1900 to Slade Green
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    clive said:
    Trains not stopping at London Bridge tonight 1632 to Slade Green 1644 to Crayford 1659 to Dartford 1706 to Hastings 1710 to Slade Green 1714 to Margate 1730 to Gravesend 1737 to Hayes 1741 to Hastings 1744 to Orpington 1752 to Barnehurst 1800 to Hayes 1805 to Crayford 1812 to Ramsgate 1814 to Slade Green 1816 to Dover Priory 1827 to Crayford 1829 to Strood 1838 to Barnehurst 1900 to Slade Green
    I feel @MrLargo needs to repurpose that twee little image with the loudspeaker and a text callout on a Twitter account. Imagine the snark and abuse that could go into a daily tweet with that as a background image... 
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    Apparently they are all self-isolating due to Covid-19 exposure, according to Twitter response to someone complaining! 
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    MrLargo said:
    Wilma said:
    Apparently they are all self-isolating due to Covid-19 exposure, according to Twitter response to someone complaining! 
    Predictable. To be fair, I was expecting that one to crop up in a daily basis after the pandemic started. 

    So does that mean no trains from platform 1 at London Bridge for the next 14 days, or do they only self isolate when there aren't any other available excuses?
    Only during the week as less trains run to/from Cannon Street at weekends so they can manage fine then. 
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    Wilma said:
    Apparently they are all self-isolating due to Covid-19 exposure, according to Twitter response to someone complaining! 
    Might not have happened if the staff at London Bridge were wearing masks rather than visors worn too high on their head so that their nose and mouth are left exposed.

    (To be fair to Southeastern the station staff at London Bridge are mainly provided by Network Rail.)
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    Trains not stopping at London Bridge tonight 1632 to Slade Green 1644 to Crayford 1659 to Dartford 1706 to Hastings 1710 to Slade Green 1714 to Margate 1730 to Gravesend 1737 to Hayes 1741 to Hastings 1744 to Orpington 1752 to Barnehurst 1800 to Hayes 1805 to Crayford 1812 to Ramsgate 1814 to Slade Green 1816 to Dover Priory 1827 to Crayford 1829 to Strood 1838 to Barnehurst 1900 to Slade Green
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    Wow!! Okay, let's give them the benefit of the doubt and accept that it's genuinely because staff are self-isolating due to Covid and there's absolutely nothing they can do about it. (even though I'm sure there's a simple solution that anyone with a brain the size of ant's todger could come up with).

    On that basis, why THE F*#K are they announcing it on a day by day basis?! They know how long their staff need to isolate for, so they know how long this problem's going to last. Here's a crazy thought - why not announce, all in one go so people can make alternative plans, how many days the disruption will last for?! Instead of putting out a tweet literally 2 minutes before the first train on that list is due to depart!

    Word of advice for anyone who plans to get on one of those trains at London Bridge between now and the end of next week - you probably won't be able to. South Eastern will confirm this on Twitter at 4.30 everyday.

    Utter cretins.
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    Trains not stopping at London Bridge tonight 1632 to Slade Green 1644 to Crayford 1659 to Dartford 1706 to Hastings 1710 to Slade Green 1714 to Margate 1730 to Gravesend 1737 to Hayes 1741 to Hastings 1744 to Orpington 1752 to Barnehurst 1800 to Hayes 1805 to Crayford 1812 to Ramsgate 1814 to Slade Green 1816 to Dover Priory 1827 to Crayford 1829 to Strood 1838 to Barnehurst 1900 to Slade Green
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    Thanks for posting @clive !!

    Look forward to hearing from you again tomorrow afternoon!
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    Trains not stopping at London Bridge tonight 1632 to Slade Green 1644 to Crayford 1659 to Dartford 1706 to Hastings 1710 to Slade Green 1714 to Margate 1730 to Gravesend 1737 to Hayes 1741 to Hastings 1744 to Orpington 1752 to Barnehurst 1800 to Hayes 1805 to Crayford 1812 to Ramsgate 1814 to Slade Green 1816 to Dover Priory 1827 to Crayford 1829 to Strood 1838 to Barnehurst 1900 to Slade Green
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    It was the same on Thursday and Friday as well. These people are farking idiots.
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    Wilma said:
    MrLargo said:
    Wilma said:
    Apparently they are all self-isolating due to Covid-19 exposure, according to Twitter response to someone complaining! 
    Predictable. To be fair, I was expecting that one to crop up in a daily basis after the pandemic started. 

    So does that mean no trains from platform 1 at London Bridge for the next 14 days, or do they only self isolate when there aren't any other available excuses?
    Only during the week as less trains run to/from Cannon Street at weekends so they can manage fine then. 
    and they get anti-social hours increment on all their weekend wages

    southeastern hoping that the cost of the few poor sods who fill in a delay repay form is lower than the overtime they're saving by allowing the bone idle sponging mask dodging layabouts to have a load of time off 'sick'
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    Trains not stopping at London Bridge tonight 1632 to Slade Green 1644 to Crayford 1659 to Dartford 1706 to Hastings 1710 to Slade Green 1714 to Margate 1730 to Gravesend 1737 to Hayes 1741 to Hastings 1744 to Orpington 1752 to Barnehurst 1800 to Hayes 1805 to Crayford 1812 to Ramsgate 1814 to Slade Green 1816 to Dover Priory 1827 to Crayford 1829 to Strood 1838 to Barnehurst 1900 to Slade Green
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    I applaud Southeastern for consistently coming up with the same excuse.

    No need to flannel around with other excuses which, in itself, would mean changing the wording on their cute little loud hailer notice board, and putting admin to unnecessary time wastage and considerable expense.

    Well done and congratulations.
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