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  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,105
    edited May 2014

    Torries - Chelsea
    Labour - Barnsley
    Lib dems - Brentford
    Greens - Forest Green.

    Not bad, I can see your logic but I would go.....

    Conservative - Chelsea

    Labour - Leeds

    Lib Dems - Aston Villa (never hurt anyone)

    Greens - Brighton
    I did Brentford Lib Dems for because most of their MPs are from SW London and Forrest Green as their chairman's a hippy. :-)
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,133
    Chunes said:

    Macronate said:

    just read the UKIP statement of local principles in Bexley and can't fault any of their aims.

    just read them and I agree.
    I liked the fact they quoted a Kevin Costner film. And got it wrong:

    "We will explore the possibility of expanding Erith Pier and in turn expanding the
    river taxi to Erith - 'If we build it, they will come.' "
    Huh, which Kevin Costner film was set in Erith? Was it the one where the world was all an underwater wretched hive of scum and villainy?
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,304

    PSS However i would like ALL new comers to move next door to David Milliband asap.

    Given that he's bogged off to the States for some cushy charity/NGO job, that'd be rather tricky. But why let facts get in the way of a good rant, eh?

  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    edited May 2014
    Took 4 seats in Maidstone meaning the torries have lost control.
    Sounds like they've done reasonably well nationally.
    Late night at the conting last night - got homeat 5am.
    Decent overall turnout of 39% in Maidstone.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,017
    Poor bloke. You must be shagged, if you were conting until nearly 5am.
  • mrbligh
    mrbligh Posts: 3,056

    Poor bloke. You must be shagged, if you were conting until nearly 5am.

    badman

  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    edited May 2014

    Poor bloke. You must be shagged, if you were conting until nearly 5am.

    :-)
  • SE9
    SE9 Posts: 809

    Poor bloke. You must be shagged, if you were conting until nearly 5am.

    He couldn't sleep so was counting sheep.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456

    Took 4 seats in Maidstone meaning the torries have lost control.
    Sounds like they've done reasonably well nationally.
    Late night at the conting last night - got homeat 5am.
    Decent overall turnout of 39% in Maidstone.



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  • A-R-T-H-U-R
    A-R-T-H-U-R Posts: 7,678

    Lib Dems are definitely Cardiff, sold their soul for a shot at the big time and failed.

    Oh my, the irony of a sweeping, ignorant generalisation on a thread such as this one!


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  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    Modern day Nazis
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,437
    So, unless I'm mistaken, UKIP have just put the Tories on notice that they need to make themselves seem a bit more racist to have any chance of winning the next election?
  • sidcup-red
    sidcup-red Posts: 195

    Modern day Nazis

    Please tell me what this is based on, throwing out ridiculous statements like that makes you look stupid frankly.

  • sidcup-red
    sidcup-red Posts: 195

    So, unless I'm mistaken, UKIP have just put the Tories on notice that they need to make themselves seem a bit more racist to have any chance of winning the next election?

    Wouldn't agree with becoming more 'racist', but certainly Cameron seems to believe that they will have to pursue a tougher view on immigration.
  • So, unless I'm mistaken, UKIP have just put the Tories on notice that they need to make themselves seem a bit more racist to have any chance of winning the next election?

    Nothing to do with Racism. It's about people (of all races) waking up to the problems caused by mass, poorly regulated migration. As my cab driver said to me on my last trip home "London has been taken over by Asians". The irony was that this cab driver was a Bangladeshi who had spent many years living in Milan and only came here because his daughter was going to uni. My wife (also Asian) thought similarly, hence the reason why we moved to Australia. I remember attending an Australian Migration Expo in London years ago and was amazed at the amount of Asians present who wanted to get out of the UK because of over crowding/traffic jams and all the other problems caused by too many people in a confined area.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,925

    Modern day Nazis

    Welcome to the forum your royal highness, pleasure to have you here Charles
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,055

    So, unless I'm mistaken, UKIP have just put the Tories on notice that they need to make themselves seem a bit more racist to have any chance of winning the next election?

    Nothing to do with Racism. It's about people (of all races) waking up to the problems caused by mass, poorly regulated migration. As my cab driver said to me on my last trip home "London has been taken over by Asians". The irony was that this cab driver was a Bangladeshi who had spent many years living in Milan and only came here because his daughter was going to uni. My wife (also Asian) thought similarly, hence the reason why we moved to Australia. I remember attending an Australian Migration Expo in London years ago and was amazed at the amount of Asians present who wanted to get out of the UK because of over crowding/traffic jams and all the other problems caused by too many people in a confined area.
    "Quit the EU to ease traffic jams !"
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,943
    edited May 2014
    Looking through UKIPs policies, the problem is that they hide all of the racist crap in amongst statements that could be deemed fairly reasonable (taking voting rights away from prisoners for example). For instance giving first dibs to particular jobs to British citizens. Don't have a problem if these people are hard working and well qualified. But I have had work done on my house by both British 'white' worker and a polish chap from down the road. And likewise had my car washed by British folk at Tescos
    as well as the polish place round the corner. All I wanted was the best job possible and if they work harder and a better quality I will pay for it. I hate people who blame others if they haven't got as far in life. We all started school with a clean slate. We all had a choice to piss around in class as a kid or get our head down and work. I have seen a couple of people who were absolute wasters at school singing UKIPs praises for getting 'their jobs back'. If they had worked harder at school they would have been better qualified and got these jobs ahead of other candidates. British or otherwise.
  • byl
    byl Posts: 133
    edited May 2014
    everyone in belgium remembers that speech in the european parliament very well lol - it's funny especially if you are belgian :)

    Farage became instantly world famous here lol
    doubtful though that this kind of speeches and behaviour will make Europe or the UK a better place though :p

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  • SE9
    SE9 Posts: 809
    se9addick said:

    So, unless I'm mistaken, UKIP have just put the Tories on notice that they need to make themselves seem a bit more racist to have any chance of winning the next election?

    Nothing to do with Racism. It's about people (of all races) waking up to the problems caused by mass, poorly regulated migration. As my cab driver said to me on my last trip home "London has been taken over by Asians". The irony was that this cab driver was a Bangladeshi who had spent many years living in Milan and only came here because his daughter was going to uni. My wife (also Asian) thought similarly, hence the reason why we moved to Australia. I remember attending an Australian Migration Expo in London years ago and was amazed at the amount of Asians present who wanted to get out of the UK because of over crowding/traffic jams and all the other problems caused by too many people in a confined area.
    "Quit the EU to ease traffic jams !"
    Less people that come to live here results in less traffic on roads surely ?

  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,943
    You know what, I have been searching for an analogy for UKIP as it has just come to me. They are the kid at school who bought a football in but then took it off in a huff and wouldn't let anyone play because some people were better than him.
  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999

    So, unless I'm mistaken, UKIP have just put the Tories on notice that they need to make themselves seem a bit more racist to have any chance of winning the next election?

    No! It means a lot of people are (and have been for a while now) concerned about the levels of mass, uncontrolled and intense immigration into this Country.

    Levels that are stretching an already unsustainable growing population in many areas.

    Since neither party in the last 15 or so years has done a thing about it, the people have spoken.

    I think it really is as simple as that. It doesn't mean peoole are racist. It doesn't mean the other parties have to become racist, it means show us that you are genuinely going to take the issue seriously and tackle it in a responsible and fair manor.

    Oh and deport all Romanians of course ;-)
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    since when is curbing immigration racist ? its only racism if its targeting a race or selected races.

    Sill its good enough answer to the Guradianistas when they have no argument to shout "Racism" or " bigot" ------used to work----USED TO.
  • mrbligh
    mrbligh Posts: 3,056
    With UKIP at the centre of another row over disgusting comments from a candidate, a round up of the racist, anti-Semitic and Islamophobic things you can say as a UKIP candidate — but not get chucked out — is long overdue.

    Let’s start with the latest furore:

    Telling Lenny Henry to “emigrate to a black country”

    It’s going on three days since that story broke and William Henwood is still a candidate for Enfield Council.

    While Cllr Chris Pain eventually parted from UKIP over another matter, he DID NOT get chucked out for …

    Posting to Facebook: “Go home you free-loading, benefit-grabbing, resource-sucking, baby-making, non-English-speaking ********* and take those other hairy-faced, sandal-wearing, bomb-making, camel-riding, goat-********, raghead ******** with you.’”

    Then there’s Alex Wood, who was accused of …

    Making a Nazi salute

    Nigel Farage backed him, claiming that — we are not kidding — he was ‘imitating a potted plant’. This might have worked as an excuse for Wood, if it weren’t for this …

    Claiming that all Africans ‘disgust’ you and ‘live in mud huts and kill each other’

    A social media account of another UKIP candidate posted anti-semitic material to the party’s official Facebook pages over the course of at least 11 months no one at HQ noticed or cared. She even posted on Facebook …

    Telling Nigel Farage that ‘Jewish bankers dominate the world’ (twice)

    Anna-Marie Crampton (pictured below with Farage) also claimed that a global conspiracy was headed by the, errr, queen. She was not expelled.

    Nigel Farage Anna-Marie Crampton

    Then there’s Worcestershire county councillor Eric Kitson who hit the headlines after …

    Suggesting Muslim women should be hanged

    Despite admitting to the comments, UKIP didn’t even suspend him because “they had not completed their investigations”. He eventually resigned of his own accord.

    Regular Scrapbook readers may remember Oxford council candidate Julia Gasper, notorious for …

    Claiming: “Why is it any more wrong to assert that the Koran is a fascist book than to assert that Mein Kampf is a fascist book?”

    “In fact, the apologists for Islam are really very similiar to Holocaust deniers.”

    Rather than chuck her out, the party released an official statement saying “we do support her right to hold those views.” Farage was well aware, trying to distract from the row with claims that Gasper had received death threats:
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470

    since when is curbing immigration racist ? its only racism if its targeting a race or selected races.

    Sill its good enough answer to the Guradianistas when they have no argument to shout "Racism" or " bigot" ------used to work----USED TO.

    Do Eastern Europeans not count then? Because they've been pretty obviously targetted by Farage and his little England buddies.
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    eastern Europe is not a Race.

    and your "little Englander" comment bit racist that isnt it ?
  • micks1950
    micks1950 Posts: 943

    since when is curbing immigration racist ? its only racism if its targeting a race or selected races.

    Sill its good enough answer to the Guradianistas when they have no argument to shout "Racism" or " bigot" ------used to work----USED TO.

    I don’t want to worry you Goonerhater but your line of argument almost exactly mirrors that of London BNP spokesman Steve Squire who’s been going around various media outlets over the past week or so attacking UKIP because:

    “UKIP’s immigration policy discriminates against white Europeans, whereas our immigration policy is non-discriminatory. We don’t pick on white people from Europe: we don’t care where you come from, black or Asian or white, we don’t want you. We think that is a non-racist position”…...

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/the-bnp-has-attacked-ukip-for-being-racist

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/14/ukip-bnp-racist_n_5322084.html

  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757

    You know what, I have been searching for an analogy for UKIP as it has just come to me. They are the kid at school who bought a football in but then took it off in a huff and wouldn't let anyone play because some people were better than him.

    Doesn't work at all. Must try harder. C-