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  • So, Rooney gets the blame, hey? Rooney's shite corner was followed by two pathetic crosses from other England players, but no comments on, to watch, here? Possibly due to the heat and humidity, this wasn't the best game to watch. It was the 'same old' Italy, they sure know how to win. England had much more idea going forward, but they had no energy in the last 30 minutes. Pirlo.......amazing!!

    He also missed the target with our best chance of the second half and failed to track back on the left all night
  • You don't play rooney out wide like that I'd rather he didnt play at all than see a great player playing out of position and looking poor
  • A young inventive, forward thinking but inexperienced performance.
    Shame we had to start the revolution against the brick wall that is Italy.

    Onwards and upwards
  • So, Rooney gets the blame, hey? Rooney's shite corner was followed by two pathetic crosses from other England players, but no comments

    Was not just the corner, he was pathetic all game
  • Do we have to have a scapegoat? Overall a good performance - a bit more luck would have got a draw. Italy won the WC in 2006 let's not forget...
  • Barkley and Lallana to start next game. Thought sterling was our best player apart from the dodgy cross. Confident we will get 6 points from the next 2.
  • Do we have to have a scapegoat? Overall a good performance - a bit more luck would have got a draw. Italy won WC in 2006 let's not forget...

    Not about being a scapegoat, Rooney is just not good enough
  • I'd rather have Rooney than Wellback. 442 Roy.
  • You don't play rooney out wide like that I'd rather he didnt play at all than see a great player playing out of position and looking poor

    But he's had so many chances in his favoured position. To play him central today would have meant Sterling not playing in the role in which he starred first half.
    Rooney's past his best before date.
  • Rooney wasn't meant to track back imo he was told to drop back and stay close but be ready to brake like he did for the goal
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  • I don't see how anyone can say Italy had more desire. That's a lazy accusation in my book.

    They scored a well worked set piece and took advantage of a slack bit of defending. Overall there were very little between the teams.

    I used the word desire thinking specifically of the effort and commitment of the experienced old codgers Pirlo and Gerrard.

    Not only was Pirlo the boss in that game he was among the most committed despite being the oldest man out there.
  • Rooney wasn't meant to track back imo he was told to drop back and stay close but be ready to brake like he did for the goal

    I am sure he would of been told to help the full back, on whatever side he played on and he never did
  • Played ok overall but we're going to give away chances from wide positions with this formation. It's positive but having two wingers or strikers playing in front of full backs that also like to get forward does leave us open. Sterling excellent, good finish from Sturridge and Cahill did well. We still have enough to win the other group games and qualify.
  • Thought it was a pretty even game. Draw would've been a fair result. Still beat Costa Rica and at least draw vs Uruguay and we should be okay
  • LenGlover said:

    I don't see how anyone can say Italy had more desire. That's a lazy accusation in my book.

    They scored a well worked set piece and took advantage of a slack bit of defending. Overall there were very little between the teams.

    I used the word desire thinking specifically of the effort and commitment of the experienced old codgers Pirlo and Gerrard.

    Not only was Pirlo the boss in that game he was among the most committed despite being the oldest man out there.
    Not sure id say commited. After the second goal went In the fella was sat in the centre circle in his jacket and slippers with a Cuban on the go!

  • edited June 2014
    Italy is better at football than England. You'll never see a shitter Italian team, no Buffon, chiellini lumbering about at left back, no Maggio, no Rossi. Horrible side. I expect both teams to go out shortly.
  • Breaking News: Alan Curbishley takes over Charlton's Twitter.
  • edited June 2014
    Phil Nevilleballs:

    "...he likes to feel men up against him..."

    and, after the ref had drawn a line in foam for a free kick

    "The players getting behind the ref's imaginary line, there..."
  • Well that was dissapointing, luckily the exciting summer going on at Charlton wiill distract us all..............
  • Rooney wasn't meant to track back imo he was told to drop back and stay close but be ready to brake like he did for the goal

    Were you told about this by one of your amazing sources. Do you mean break? Or are you thinking of suddenly stopping?

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  • He did drop back he wasn't man to man with attacking Italian bit if you look he is tracking back narrow with the intention of on the turn of play and possession he breaks wide and the Italian.defence are too far off him to give him the five yds of space to deliver the ball

    It worked once and that was his role

    Had Wayne tracked closer the Italian defender or winger is closer meaning rooney and his lack of pace wouldn't expose the danger area

    If you have watched rooney enough like I am sure you all have you would've seen him tracking back like a full back

    Tonight he done what was asked of him.and to not get in the wrong position it's a risky tactic but it worked to a degree

    The problem was the system didn't suit rooney so I personally wouldn't.play him.there

    More bothered by how pony Gerrard was
  • thought we played well --went for it----Italy will always be able to defend a lead its in their DNA.
    The whole world thought that 2nd min shot was in ---dont deny it.


  • I thought Welbeck had a cracking game, run his socks off

    ...and then got subbed. Weird.
  • Morts take it off the main page send me a.pm and we can.chat about your last few weeks of calling me out
  • i thought he was calling you something worse than OUT NLA ---ill hold ur coat.
  • Sleep it off and kiss and make up... Don't be typical English!!
  • To me it's all about ballotelli and sturridge both have the real ability to say I am here on the world stage

    I think Mario will just rise above everything we have

    This may come back to haunt but I think Ballotelli is overrated. I think Italy would be better off with Immobile against Cahill and Jagielka.
    Quote quote and quote again.
  • thought we played well --went for it----Italy will always be able to defend a lead its in their DNA.
    The whole world thought that 2nd min shot was in ---dont deny it.


    Yep the entire bar went crazy here for that early Sterling shot, i was already hugging everyone near me in delight before i realised.
  • Ruined my weekend that has.
    Think Roy's been smoking the grass.
    Was a don't lose game.
    Not happy.
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