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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,001
    killer kish said:
    Fakenham 12.55 Zee Man
    One of my horses running today and only had for about six weeks and purchase all done through Olly himself. His first report on the horse was we can win a couple handicap hurdles off his current mark but with his size and scope will make a better chaser. On to today and latest is that he has impressed Olly so much at home with his schooling over fences and that this is such an ordinary race we couldn't not run in it. He has added the fear is the track could be too tight as he is a big lad. 
    Well done mate. The way he leaped that 2nd to last fence was very impressive. 
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,427
    Nice one kk 
  • WelshAddick
    WelshAddick Posts: 1,321
    excellent, thanks for the tip 
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,107
    great stuff killer
  • killer kish
    killer kish Posts: 2,019
    And Olly said he will improve from that run!!!! 
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,725
    edited January 2021
    Today Fakenham, tomorrow.................THE WORLD.
     Oh alright Plumpton
    Many congrats @killer kish
     Onwards and upwards!!!
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,861
    Congrats KK. Didn't see the race but the summary paints an impressive picture.
    Sounds like you are going to have some fun with him.


  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,861
    killer kish said:
    And Olly said he will improve from that run!!!! 
    Chase debut 2m5f soft - reckon he might get 4m2f in a couple of years?? ;-)
  • alan dugdale
    alan dugdale Posts: 3,079
    Just to confirm that my nickname of Lucky Alf remains, I turned down involvement in Zee Man 🤦‍♂️. And KK, no I didn’t back him today !
  • killer kish
    killer kish Posts: 2,019
    PeanutsMolloy said:
    Today Fakenham, tomorrow.................THE WORLD.
     Oh alright Plumpton
    Many congrats @killer kish
     Onwards and upwards!!!
    Close Peanuts.... Has an entry for Lingfield Friday

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  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,725
    edited January 2021
    Pre-empting the handicapper. Great stuff.
    But Bob's got a point. Rummy and the Tiger were flat bred of course and there's Wild Risk in that pedigree of yours. If he can score on Lingfield heavy, even if over the minimum, I'm expecting nothing less than Chepstow on the agenda next Christmas  ;)  
    All the best Killer.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,300
    serious thoughts that cheltenham will be off this year
    concerns over the irish being allowed to bring horses over and with whats going on it morally wrong to take medical teams away from hospitals etc. 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,380
    palarsehater said:
    serious thoughts that cheltenham will be off this year
    concerns over the irish being allowed to bring horses over and with whats going on it morally wrong to take medical teams away from hospitals etc. 
    could well be behind the closed gates .. if the Irish are restricted to just  few horses and jockeys, so be it
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,861
    Lincsaddick said:
    palarsehater said:
    serious thoughts that cheltenham will be off this year
    concerns over the irish being allowed to bring horses over and with whats going on it morally wrong to take medical teams away from hospitals etc. 
    could well be behind the closed gates .. if the Irish are restricted to just  few horses and jockeys, so be it
    This. 
    My view, it will either be behind closed doors (most likely) or with minimal attendance. 
  • smiffyboy
    smiffyboy Posts: 4,314
    Congratulation KK
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,725
    edited January 2021
    bobmunro said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    palarsehater said:
    serious thoughts that cheltenham will be off this year
    concerns over the irish being allowed to bring horses over and with whats going on it morally wrong to take medical teams away from hospitals etc. 
    could well be behind the closed gates .. if the Irish are restricted to just  few horses and jockeys, so be it
    This. 
    My view, it will either be behind closed doors (most likely) or with minimal attendance. 
    Hope you don't mind me asking but what would be Bet365's policy with antepost bets on Irish runners if they were prevented from coming over @bobmunro ?
    Festival or (more pertinently for me) GN?
     
     

  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,861
    PeanutsMolloy said:
    bobmunro said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    palarsehater said:
    serious thoughts that cheltenham will be off this year
    concerns over the irish being allowed to bring horses over and with whats going on it morally wrong to take medical teams away from hospitals etc. 
    could well be behind the closed gates .. if the Irish are restricted to just  few horses and jockeys, so be it
    This. 
    My view, it will either be behind closed doors (most likely) or with minimal attendance. 
    Hope you don't mind me asking but would be Bet365's policy with antepost bets on Irish runners if they were prevented from coming over @bobmunro ?
    Festival or (more pertinently for me) GN?
     
     

    I don't know, Peanuts - sorry.
    Generally, and I know you know, for ante-post bets unless the race doesn't take place or a selection is balloted out, non-runners are treated as losers.
    If any horses cannot run because they are not allowed to travel then it might result in a concession but clearly a lot of the fancied runners (especially at Cheltenham) are Irish  and no Rule 4 on the English runners would smart!! 

  • PolzeathNick
    PolzeathNick Posts: 332
    They should be settled as losers but there'd be outcry from punters everywhere so they'll get their fivers and tenners back as a "goodwill gesture" from "bookmakers"
    Exchange will settle as losers
  • PolzeathNick
    PolzeathNick Posts: 332
    edited January 2021
    Wouldn't be in a rush to bet any Irish horse right now imo. Interesting that bet365 cut just about every UK horse few days back.
    Only bet I've had of note is Bravemansgame in Ballymore at 5s. Be 1/5 if no Irish so no complaints from me if they don't rock up. He's as good as Envoi Allen/Samcro anyway and they went off odds on so not too bothered either way!
    Chipping away at Saint Calvados in the Gold Cup on exchange too
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,380
    I've done Al Boum Photo for the G C .. I suspect he'll be brought over well before the event as a 3 timer would be something special .. that is of course if any overseas horses are allowed in for the next few months

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  • killer kish
    killer kish Posts: 2,019
    If Ffos Las passes yet another inspection I will hopefully have a runner in the 2.58 Lily The Pink.
    Anthony has said since beginning of the season on his current mark he can win a handicap hurdle then will go chasing once that’s happened.(hopefully today)
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,864
    killer kish said:
    If Ffos Las passes yet another inspection I will hopefully have a runner in the 2.58 Lily The Pink.
    Anthony has said since beginning of the season on his current mark he can win a handicap hurdle then will go chasing once that’s happened.(hopefully today)
    Good luck @killer kish
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,332
    what's the chances of Honeyball's in the first ?
  • mid_life_crisis
    mid_life_crisis Posts: 3,265
    PolzeathNick said:
    They should be settled as losers but there'd be outcry from punters everywhere so they'll get their fivers and tenners back as a "goodwill gesture" from "bookmakers"
    Exchange will settle as losers
    Out of interest, why do say they should be settled as losers, if the Irish are not allowed to travel?
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,725
    edited January 2021
    killer kish said:
    If Ffos Las passes yet another inspection I will hopefully have a runner in the 2.58 Lily The Pink.
    Anthony has said since beginning of the season on his current mark he can win a handicap hurdle then will go chasing once that’s happened.(hopefully today)

    Great shame it's off today @KillerKish
    She's nicely related, as I'm sure you know. Her dam's a half sister to Minella Indo. Also in the family: Central House, Chicago Grey, Rogue Angel and The Bunny Boiler.
    Best of luck next time.
    Sure we'll shortly be having (.....altogether now!) a drink a drink, a drink to Lily the Pink, the Pink, the Pink  :smile:  
  • killer kish
    killer kish Posts: 2,019
    northstandsteve said:
    what's the chances of Honeyball's in the first ?
    I know meeting off but as regards Windswept in the first. They have been disappointed bumper form not transfered to hurdles and no real answer to it just like Coquelicot. Both mentioned horses were expected to go to the Festival with live chances on what they showed last season in bumpers.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,040
    mid_life_crisis said:
    PolzeathNick said:
    They should be settled as losers but there'd be outcry from punters everywhere so they'll get their fivers and tenners back as a "goodwill gesture" from "bookmakers"
    Exchange will settle as losers
    Out of interest, why do say they should be settled as losers, if the Irish are not allowed to travel?
    Gonna speak in hypotheticals here (i.e. assuming that the horses cannot travel).

    You're betting on a horse to win: at the time of the bet being struck, it was possible for the horse to win. It is now not possible for the horse to win, and yes that's due to Irish restrictions/Brexit or whatever, but at the time it was. So, hard luck.

    Of course, all the rules and Ts and Cs don't take into account this as a reason for NRs: as it's not strictly horse racing related, you'll probably see bookies make concessions in some way, as Nick says.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,712
    killer kish said:
    PeanutsMolloy said:
    Today Fakenham, tomorrow.................THE WORLD.
     Oh alright Plumpton
    Many congrats @killer kish
     Onwards and upwards!!!
    Close Peanuts.... Has an entry for Lingfield Friday
    What time? He isn’t appearing at the moment.
  • killer kish
    killer kish Posts: 2,019
    guinnessaddick said:
    killer kish said:
    PeanutsMolloy said:
    Today Fakenham, tomorrow.................THE WORLD.
     Oh alright Plumpton
    Many congrats @killer kish
     Onwards and upwards!!!
    Close Peanuts.... Has an entry for Lingfield Friday
    What time? He isn’t appearing at the moment.
    Jumps meeting has been called off and replaced by an all weather jumpers for bumpers meeting
  • mid_life_crisis
    mid_life_crisis Posts: 3,265
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