I think you really have to read up On the ched Evans story to be able to make a judgement on if he should still be playing football or not. Yes he was found guilty, but there is definitely something not right about the case/ trial. He has always maintained his innocence and if that is the case, why should he apologise? If you were convicted of a crime you didn't commit, would you apologise for doing it? No. He did apologise to his girlfriend and family for having sex with the girl in question. He did apologise to his fans, his club etc for letting them down etc. but he always maintained sex was consensual. I think he was a prat for doing it but I'm not convinced it was rape. Should he get a second chance. IMO, yes. At charlton??.......personally, I wouldn't mind. We all make mistakes and I think he made a gigantic one. But for me it was just a massive mistake and not a crime.
If everyone managed to forget about Oldham signing Lee Hughes then I'm sure people will forget about Ched Evans signing even more quickly
We're talking about a man convicted of rape who has never once come close to apologising for his actions. A whole different kettle of fish from the Lee Hughes situation, or any situation we've seen in English football before.
What Hughes did was far, far worse. He killed a bloke. Killed. He ran away from the scene, leaving him to die.
Nonsense.
Lee Hughes made a huge mistake - which he then pleaded guilty to. He didn't go out with the intention of killing someone that night.
Ched Evans has been legally declared of the crime of rape - an action that he was conscious of at the time, and still hasn't apologised for.
If you've attended a game where Hughes has played you'll have noticed that he gets a fair bit of stick, but it doesn't seem to go beyond that. The level of abuse Evans is going to get will be on a whole new level, trust me.
Lee Hughes got into a car knowing he was drunk so in my mind he is culpable of murder whatever the law says otherwise. He's a scumbag. He ran away from the scene leaving a man to die. Scumbag.
Not arguing that.
At least Lee Hughes pleaded guilty and has shown his remorse. Thats a big difference for me.
If everyone managed to forget about Oldham signing Lee Hughes then I'm sure people will forget about Ched Evans signing even more quickly
We're talking about a man convicted of rape who has never once come close to apologising for his actions. A whole different kettle of fish from the Lee Hughes situation, or any situation we've seen in English football before.
What Hughes did was far, far worse. He killed a bloke. Killed. He ran away from the scene, leaving him to die.
Nonsense.
Lee Hughes made a huge mistake - which he then pleaded guilty to. He didn't go out with the intention of killing someone that night.
Ched Evans has been legally declared of the crime of rape - an action that he was conscious of at the time, and still hasn't apologised for.
If you've attended a game where Hughes has played you'll have noticed that he gets a fair bit of stick, but it doesn't seem to go beyond that. The level of abuse Evans is going to get will be on a whole new level, trust me.
Lee Hughes got into a car knowing he was drunk so in my mind he is culpable of murder whatever the law says otherwise. He's a scumbag. He ran away from the scene leaving a man to die. Scumbag.
Not arguing that.
At least Lee Hughes pleaded guilty and has shown his remorse. Thats a big difference for me.
Great, tell the family that lost their dad that Hughes is sorry
If everyone managed to forget about Oldham signing Lee Hughes then I'm sure people will forget about Ched Evans signing even more quickly
We're talking about a man convicted of rape who has never once come close to apologising for his actions. A whole different kettle of fish from the Lee Hughes situation, or any situation we've seen in English football before.
What Hughes did was far, far worse. He killed a bloke. Killed. He ran away from the scene, leaving him to die.
Nonsense.
Lee Hughes made a huge mistake - which he then pleaded guilty to. He didn't go out with the intention of killing someone that night.
Ched Evans has been legally declared of the crime of rape - an action that he was conscious of at the time, and still hasn't apologised for.
If you've attended a game where Hughes has played you'll have noticed that he gets a fair bit of stick, but it doesn't seem to go beyond that. The level of abuse Evans is going to get will be on a whole new level, trust me.
Lee Hughes got into a car knowing he was drunk so in my mind he is culpable of murder whatever the law says otherwise. He's a scumbag. He ran away from the scene leaving a man to die. Scumbag.
Not arguing that.
At least Lee Hughes pleaded guilty and has shown his remorse. Thats a big difference for me.
Great, tell the family that lost their dad that Hughes is sorry
The family and victim of Ched Evans' rape are living in a nightmare where that c*** has publicly said he won't apologise.
Like I said, wait until he starts playing and you'll see the venomous reaction he is going to get. Will make Hughes' abuse look like childsplay.
It's quite clear that the fans of EVERY club he gets linked with, will kick off and cause a fuss about him. As things stand it's unlikely he'll ever play pro football again.
The only way round it is surely for him to completely change tack, admit he did it, stop appealing, apologise publicly and tell trolls to stop hounding the victim so she can get on with her life.
Until he does this, i don't see how fans of any club will ever accept him signing for them.
I think you really have to read up On the ched Evans story to be able to make a judgement on if he should still be playing football or not. Yes he was found guilty, but there is definitely something not right about the case/ trial. He has always maintained his innocence and if that is the case, why should he apologise? If you were convicted of a crime you didn't commit, would you apologise for doing it? No. He did apologise to his girlfriend and family for having sex with the girl in question. He did apologise to his fans, his club etc for letting them down etc. but he always maintained sex was consensual. I think he was a prat for doing it but I'm not convinced it was rape. Should he get a second chance. IMO, yes. At charlton??.......personally, I wouldn't mind. We all make mistakes and I think he made a gigantic one. But for me it was just a massive mistake and not a crime.
I wish people would stop doing this. I should've abandoned this thread a long time ago admittedly, but this kind of post...urgh.
I think you really have to read up On the ched Evans story to be able to make a judgement on if he should still be playing football or not. Yes he was found guilty, but there is definitely something not right about the case/ trial. He has always maintained his innocence and if that is the case, why should he apologise? If you were convicted of a crime you didn't commit, would you apologise for doing it? No. He did apologise to his girlfriend and family for having sex with the girl in question. He did apologise to his fans, his club etc for letting them down etc. but he always maintained sex was consensual. I think he was a prat for doing it but I'm not convinced it was rape. Should he get a second chance. IMO, yes. At charlton??.......personally, I wouldn't mind. We all make mistakes and I think he made a gigantic one. But for me it was just a massive mistake and not a crime.
Hmmm interesting view. What do others on here think?
There's 20 pages. I think you can find the answer to that question pretty easily.
but there is definitely something not right about the case/ trial.
You seem sure @braydex. So, please, tell us what was definitely wrong with first the CPS concluding there was a case to answer, the evidence and the jury's verdict? Come on, let's have the facts then. You know, the ones that Evans failed to bring to the Court's attention that would have proved his innocence. But you know them don't you? Well, don't you?
I've just sat here and typed the longest ever response, justifying my comments, attempting to intelligently explain my thoughts on the matter.....then I thought, why am I doing this? Because someone doesn't agree with what I've said? Well, if you don't agree with me, I'm fine with that. Like many, many others, I read up on the case via the web and formed my own opinion. Anyone can do that if they want, and I'll fully respect whatever opinion they form. Just because a verdict was reached, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. At 36 years of age, I'm sure I'll get to hear about many other verdicts being reached on many different types of crimes. Should I automatically agree with all of them, just because that particular verdict has been reached? I believe he is a very very good footballer, who on a night out, made some wrong choices which had dire consequences. He acted like an idiot and should be grateful his girlfriend stuck by him. I think all parties concerned acted irresponsibly and many lessons could be learnt from all of their actions. That is my opinion. I am entitled to share it and change it if I wish to. It doesn't mean I am WRONG.
I think you really have to read up On the ched Evans story to be able to make a judgement on if he should still be playing football or not. Yes he was found guilty, but there is definitely something not right about the case/ trial. He has always maintained his innocence and if that is the case, why should he apologise? If you were convicted of a crime you didn't commit, would you apologise for doing it? No. He did apologise to his girlfriend and family for having sex with the girl in question. He did apologise to his fans, his club etc for letting them down etc. but he always maintained sex was consensual. I think he was a prat for doing it but I'm not convinced it was rape. Should he get a second chance. IMO, yes. At charlton??.......personally, I wouldn't mind. We all make mistakes and I think he made a gigantic one. But for me it was just a massive mistake and not a crime.
Hmmm interesting view. What do others on here think?
There's 20 pages. I think you can find the answer to that question pretty easily.
Again....if you're not interested in the subject, don't read it? Just because you don't want to discuss it further or read others views, doesn't mean the subject should be closed because you say so. Sorry but this is a forum...it means people can share their thoughts and opinions. There are plenty of threads I'm not interested in on here, so I don't read them. Simple.
I've just sat here and typed the longest ever response, justifying my comments, attempting to intelligently explain my thoughts on the matter.....then I thought, why am I doing this? Because someone doesn't agree with what I've said? Well, if you don't agree with me, I'm fine with that. Like many, many others, I read up on the case via the web and formed my own opinion. Anyone can do that if they want, and I'll fully respect whatever opinion they form. Just because a verdict was reached, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. At 36 years of age, I'm sure I'll get to hear about many other verdicts being reached on many different types of crimes. Should I automatically agree with all of them, just because that particular verdict has been reached? I believe he is a very very good footballer, who on a night out, made some wrong choices which had dire consequences. He acted like an idiot and should be grateful his girlfriend stuck by him. I think all parties concerned acted irresponsibly and many lessons could be learnt from all of their actions. That is my opinion. I am entitled to share it and change it if I wish to. It doesn't mean I am WRONG.
But you haven't said what you base that opinion on. You were asked what evidence you were using to form that opinion. Quite reasonable request.
Also Jimmy wasn't saying he wasn't interested. He was saying that there has already been a long debate on this very thread so it was easy to find out what other people thought as that was the question posed.
He isn't saying close the thread or that you can't share your opinions.
I've just sat here and typed the longest ever response, justifying my comments, attempting to intelligently explain my thoughts on the matter.....then I thought, why am I doing this? Because someone doesn't agree with what I've said? Well, if you don't agree with me, I'm fine with that. Like many, many others, I read up on the case via the web and formed my own opinion. Anyone can do that if they want, and I'll fully respect whatever opinion they form. Just because a verdict was reached, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. At 36 years of age, I'm sure I'll get to hear about many other verdicts being reached on many different types of crimes. Should I automatically agree with all of them, just because that particular verdict has been reached? I believe he is a very very good footballer, who on a night out, made some wrong choices which had dire consequences. He acted like an idiot and should be grateful his girlfriend stuck by him. I think all parties concerned acted irresponsibly and many lessons could be learnt from all of their actions. That is my opinion. I am entitled to share it and change it if I wish to. It doesn't mean I am WRONG.
Yes, yes you should. Unless you have any true reason to doubt them.
He was found guilty by a court of law, which was exposed to every single facet of the case. The man's subsequent attempts to clear his name have failed on every level. There is no reason to question the conviction. There's a dozen posts written by more learned people than me delving a lot deeper into this if you have the energy to read 20 pages to find them. The upshot is; the kind of post that you came up with is damaging and insulting to the victim, and helps perpetuate the myth that Evans was somehow wronged, and helps feed oxygen to the Evans family members who have apparently made it their quest to mess up that poor, poor girl's life (I gather she's perpetually in hiding to escape the abuse Evans's relatives heap on her).
So as far as I am concerned, you are wrong, very, very wrong, to post on a subject that you have, as yet, failed to show any genuine knowledge of beyond hearsay and conjecture. Because in this instance, it's a small, but significant part of what's destroying the victim's life. That's what compels me to respond, even though all of this is in this thread.
Oldham Athletic is not at this stage making any official announcement with regard to the speculation concerning Ched Evans. Whilst acknowledging the considerable media attention, we continue to have conversations with representative bodies such as the PFA and will conduct due diligence with regard to any decision we make on this matter.
Although it has been reported that a press conference would be held we will officially advise if and when any such event will take place.
The club would also request that its stakeholders and partners position and privacy be respected until this matter has been concluded.
We will not be making any further comment for the time being.
I reckon that they are taking a gamble on his appeal, and it wouldnt surprise me if there is a clause that cancels his contract if his appeal fails.
If it fails, they get rid, and wipe their hands. And if it is successful, they can probably bank a seven figure sum if he comes back the same player he was before.
I am continuing to be baffled by the role of PFA representative Gordon Taylor who has continued to promote Evans' return to football without condemning the act, even though Evans has been found guilty. It seems that he helped broker the deal with Oldham. Then at the first sign of trouble he decides that he will not be involved in the now cancelled postponed press conference. Still no condemnation of Evans, just running at the first sign of trouble.
Evans himself has totally screwed this up, he should have waited until his request to appeal had been heard and if granted then after the appeal itself was heard. Instead he rattled a hornets nest and has only himself to blame.
I've just sat here and typed the longest ever response, justifying my comments, attempting to intelligently explain my thoughts on the matter.....then I thought, why am I doing this? Because someone doesn't agree with what I've said? Well, if you don't agree with me, I'm fine with that. Like many, many others, I read up on the case via the web and formed my own opinion. Anyone can do that if they want, and I'll fully respect whatever opinion they form. Just because a verdict was reached, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. At 36 years of age, I'm sure I'll get to hear about many other verdicts being reached on many different types of crimes. Should I automatically agree with all of them, just because that particular verdict has been reached? I believe he is a very very good footballer, who on a night out, made some wrong choices which had dire consequences. He acted like an idiot and should be grateful his girlfriend stuck by him. I think all parties concerned acted irresponsibly and many lessons could be learnt from all of their actions. That is my opinion. I am entitled to share it and change it if I wish to. It doesn't mean I am WRONG.
Yes, yes you should. Unless you have any true reason to doubt them.
He was found guilty by a court of law, which was exposed to every single facet of the case. The man's subsequent attempts to clear his name have failed on every level. There is no reason to question the conviction. There's a dozen posts written by more learned people than me delving a lot deeper into this if you have the energy to read 20 pages to find them. The upshot is; the kind of post that you came up with is damaging and insulting to the victim, and helps perpetuate the myth that Evans was somehow wronged, and helps feed oxygen to the Evans family members who have made it their quest to destroy that poor, poor girl's life (I gather she's perpetually in hiding to escape the abuse Evans's relatives heap on her).
So as far as I am concerned, you are wrong, very, very wrong, to post on a subject that you have, as yet, failed to show any genuine knowledge of beyond hearsay and conjecture. Because in this instance, it's a small, but significant part of what's destroying the victim's life. That's what compels me to respond, even though all of this is in this thread.
As I said before. I have made up my opinion and it is different to yours. I am not wrong and I do not have to agree with any verdict, and I do not have to agree with you. Do I agree pistorius accidentally killed his girlfriend? No. Neither does half the world, but a judge ruled just that. Most believe he murdered her. So quite often we can accept a verdict given, acknowledge a verdict given but not agree with it. Ironically, in my local paper last week was the story of a young woman who was raped. Her attacker was convicted but pleaded innocence. He served his sentence and when released moved away. His family also had to move away as a result of his actions. He then attempted suicide but didn't succeed. Instead he was left with life changing injuries. Only then, did a witness come forward, one of the victims best friends, to say that actually she lied as did the victim, and she didn't think her friend was raped. His conviction was then duly overturned but not before the real damage had been done. So verdicts on this subject can be wrong, I'm not just living in a fantasy world. I have no loyalty to Evans whatsoever. But I also don't think I would have found him guilty if I was on the jury. That's the last I'm saying on the subject. If you or anyone else has an issue with that, then I suggest you get over it.
I've just sat here and typed the longest ever response, justifying my comments, attempting to intelligently explain my thoughts on the matter.....then I thought, why am I doing this? Because someone doesn't agree with what I've said? Well, if you don't agree with me, I'm fine with that. Like many, many others, I read up on the case via the web and formed my own opinion. Anyone can do that if they want, and I'll fully respect whatever opinion they form. Just because a verdict was reached, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. At 36 years of age, I'm sure I'll get to hear about many other verdicts being reached on many different types of crimes. Should I automatically agree with all of them, just because that particular verdict has been reached? I believe he is a very very good footballer, who on a night out, made some wrong choices which had dire consequences. He acted like an idiot and should be grateful his girlfriend stuck by him. I think all parties concerned acted irresponsibly and many lessons could be learnt from all of their actions. That is my opinion. I am entitled to share it and change it if I wish to. It doesn't mean I am WRONG.
Yes, yes you should. Unless you have any true reason to doubt them.
He was found guilty by a court of law, which was exposed to every single facet of the case. The man's subsequent attempts to clear his name have failed on every level. There is no reason to question the conviction. There's a dozen posts written by more learned people than me delving a lot deeper into this if you have the energy to read 20 pages to find them. The upshot is; the kind of post that you came up with is damaging and insulting to the victim, and helps perpetuate the myth that Evans was somehow wronged, and helps feed oxygen to the Evans family members who have made it their quest to destroy that poor, poor girl's life (I gather she's perpetually in hiding to escape the abuse Evans's relatives heap on her).
So as far as I am concerned, you are wrong, very, very wrong, to post on a subject that you have, as yet, failed to show any genuine knowledge of beyond hearsay and conjecture. Because in this instance, it's a small, but significant part of what's destroying the victim's life. That's what compels me to respond, even though all of this is in this thread.
As I said before. I have made up my opinion and it is different to yours. I am not wrong and I do not have to agree with any verdict, and I do not have to agree with you. Do I agree pistorius accidentally killed his girlfriend? No. Neither does half the world, but a judge ruled just that. Most believe he murdered her. So quite often we can accept a verdict given, acknowledge a verdict given but not agree with it. Ironically, in my local paper last week was the story of a young woman who was raped. Her attacker was convicted but pleaded innocence. He served his sentence and when released moved away. His family also had to move away as a result of his actions. He then attempted suicide but didn't succeed. Instead he was left with life changing injuries. Only then, did a witness come forward, one of the victims best friends, to say that actually she lied as did the victim, and she didn't think her friend was raped. His conviction was then duly overturned but not before the real damage had been done. So verdicts on this subject can be wrong, I'm not just living in a fantasy world. I have no loyalty to Evans whatsoever. But I also don't think I would have found him guilty if I was on the jury. That's the last I'm saying on the subject. If you or anyone else has an issue with that, then I suggest you get over it.
There is an irony in you first complaining that "I'm entitled to an opinion" and moaning that others were trying to shut down the debate and then going on to say "I'm not wrong" and "get over it".
I've just sat here and typed the longest ever response, justifying my comments, attempting to intelligently explain my thoughts on the matter.....then I thought, why am I doing this? Because someone doesn't agree with what I've said? Well, if you don't agree with me, I'm fine with that. Like many, many others, I read up on the case via the web and formed my own opinion. Anyone can do that if they want, and I'll fully respect whatever opinion they form. Just because a verdict was reached, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. At 36 years of age, I'm sure I'll get to hear about many other verdicts being reached on many different types of crimes. Should I automatically agree with all of them, just because that particular verdict has been reached? I believe he is a very very good footballer, who on a night out, made some wrong choices which had dire consequences. He acted like an idiot and should be grateful his girlfriend stuck by him. I think all parties concerned acted irresponsibly and many lessons could be learnt from all of their actions. That is my opinion. I am entitled to share it and change it if I wish to. It doesn't mean I am WRONG.
Yes, yes you should. Unless you have any true reason to doubt them.
He was found guilty by a court of law, which was exposed to every single facet of the case. The man's subsequent attempts to clear his name have failed on every level. There is no reason to question the conviction. There's a dozen posts written by more learned people than me delving a lot deeper into this if you have the energy to read 20 pages to find them. The upshot is; the kind of post that you came up with is damaging and insulting to the victim, and helps perpetuate the myth that Evans was somehow wronged, and helps feed oxygen to the Evans family members who have made it their quest to destroy that poor, poor girl's life (I gather she's perpetually in hiding to escape the abuse Evans's relatives heap on her).
So as far as I am concerned, you are wrong, very, very wrong, to post on a subject that you have, as yet, failed to show any genuine knowledge of beyond hearsay and conjecture. Because in this instance, it's a small, but significant part of what's destroying the victim's life. That's what compels me to respond, even though all of this is in this thread.
As I said before. I have made up my opinion and it is different to yours. I am not wrong and I do not have to agree with any verdict, and I do not have to agree with you. Do I agree pistorius accidentally killed his girlfriend? No. Neither does half the world, but a judge ruled just that. Most believe he murdered her. So quite often we can accept a verdict given, acknowledge a verdict given but not agree with it. Ironically, in my local paper last week was the story of a young woman who was raped. Her attacker was convicted but pleaded innocence. He served his sentence and when released moved away. His family also had to move away as a result of his actions. He then attempted suicide but didn't succeed. Instead he was left with life changing injuries. Only then, did a witness come forward, one of the victims best friends, to say that actually she lied as did the victim, and she didn't think her friend was raped. His conviction was then duly overturned but not before the real damage had been done. So verdicts on this subject can be wrong, I'm not just living in a fantasy world. I have no loyalty to Evans whatsoever. But I also don't think I would have found him guilty if I was on the jury. That's the last I'm saying on the subject. If you or anyone else has an issue with that, then I suggest you get over it.
Well, whatever way you see it - you are still technically wrong.
By law, he is guilty of rape. No 'opinion' is above that. It's not even a debate.
I've just sat here and typed the longest ever response, justifying my comments, attempting to intelligently explain my thoughts on the matter.....then I thought, why am I doing this? Because someone doesn't agree with what I've said? Well, if you don't agree with me, I'm fine with that. Like many, many others, I read up on the case via the web and formed my own opinion. Anyone can do that if they want, and I'll fully respect whatever opinion they form. Just because a verdict was reached, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. At 36 years of age, I'm sure I'll get to hear about many other verdicts being reached on many different types of crimes. Should I automatically agree with all of them, just because that particular verdict has been reached? I believe he is a very very good footballer, who on a night out, made some wrong choices which had dire consequences. He acted like an idiot and should be grateful his girlfriend stuck by him. I think all parties concerned acted irresponsibly and many lessons could be learnt from all of their actions. That is my opinion. I am entitled to share it and change it if I wish to. It doesn't mean I am WRONG.
Yes, yes you should. Unless you have any true reason to doubt them.
He was found guilty by a court of law, which was exposed to every single facet of the case. The man's subsequent attempts to clear his name have failed on every level. There is no reason to question the conviction. There's a dozen posts written by more learned people than me delving a lot deeper into this if you have the energy to read 20 pages to find them. The upshot is; the kind of post that you came up with is damaging and insulting to the victim, and helps perpetuate the myth that Evans was somehow wronged, and helps feed oxygen to the Evans family members who have made it their quest to destroy that poor, poor girl's life (I gather she's perpetually in hiding to escape the abuse Evans's relatives heap on her).
So as far as I am concerned, you are wrong, very, very wrong, to post on a subject that you have, as yet, failed to show any genuine knowledge of beyond hearsay and conjecture. Because in this instance, it's a small, but significant part of what's destroying the victim's life. That's what compels me to respond, even though all of this is in this thread.
As I said before. I have made up my opinion and it is different to yours. I am not wrong and I do not have to agree with any verdict, and I do not have to agree with you. Do I agree pistorius accidentally killed his girlfriend? No. Neither does half the world, but a judge ruled just that. Most believe he murdered her. So quite often we can accept a verdict given, acknowledge a verdict given but not agree with it. Ironically, in my local paper last week was the story of a young woman who was raped. Her attacker was convicted but pleaded innocence. He served his sentence and when released moved away. His family also had to move away as a result of his actions. He then attempted suicide but didn't succeed. Instead he was left with life changing injuries. Only then, did a witness come forward, one of the victims best friends, to say that actually she lied as did the victim, and she didn't think her friend was raped. His conviction was then duly overturned but not before the real damage had been done. So verdicts on this subject can be wrong, I'm not just living in a fantasy world. I have no loyalty to Evans whatsoever. But I also don't think I would have found him guilty if I was on the jury. That's the last I'm saying on the subject. If you or anyone else has an issue with that, then I suggest you get over it.
So you read the completely unbiased and totally fair accounts as posted on the ChedEvans.com website then? I suggest you obtain and read a copy of the Court Manuscript and then think again.
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At least Lee Hughes pleaded guilty and has shown his remorse. Thats a big difference for me.
Like I said, wait until he starts playing and you'll see the venomous reaction he is going to get. Will make Hughes' abuse look like childsplay.
The only way round it is surely for him to completely change tack, admit he did it, stop appealing, apologise publicly and tell trolls to stop hounding the victim so she can get on with her life.
Until he does this, i don't see how fans of any club will ever accept him signing for them.
Also Jimmy wasn't saying he wasn't interested. He was saying that there has already been a long debate on this very thread so it was easy to find out what other people thought as that was the question posed.
He isn't saying close the thread or that you can't share your opinions.
He was found guilty by a court of law, which was exposed to every single facet of the case. The man's subsequent attempts to clear his name have failed on every level. There is no reason to question the conviction. There's a dozen posts written by more learned people than me delving a lot deeper into this if you have the energy to read 20 pages to find them. The upshot is; the kind of post that you came up with is damaging and insulting to the victim, and helps perpetuate the myth that Evans was somehow wronged, and helps feed oxygen to the Evans family members who have apparently made it their quest to mess up that poor, poor girl's life (I gather she's perpetually in hiding to escape the abuse Evans's relatives heap on her).
So as far as I am concerned, you are wrong, very, very wrong, to post on a subject that you have, as yet, failed to show any genuine knowledge of beyond hearsay and conjecture. Because in this instance, it's a small, but significant part of what's destroying the victim's life. That's what compels me to respond, even though all of this is in this thread.
Don't let the facts of matter get in the way of a shit story
Evans is a dirty nonce who if was given the chance to play here I would expect the vast majority to ensure that the club knew it was a non starter
Whilst acknowledging the considerable media attention, we continue to have conversations with representative bodies such as the PFA and will conduct due diligence with regard to any decision we make on this matter.
Although it has been reported that a press conference would be held we will officially advise if and when any such event will take place.
The club would also request that its stakeholders and partners position and privacy be respected until this matter has been concluded.
We will not be making any further comment for the time being.
Read more at http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-ched-evans-2184275.aspx#z7xxBboM0AbdrmQA.99
If it fails, they get rid, and wipe their hands. And if it is successful, they can probably bank a seven figure sum if he comes back the same player he was before.
Evans himself has totally screwed this up, he should have waited until his request to appeal had been heard and if granted then after the appeal itself was heard. Instead he rattled a hornets nest and has only himself to blame.
There is an irony in you first complaining that "I'm entitled to an opinion" and moaning that others were trying to shut down the debate and then going on to say "I'm not wrong" and "get over it".
By law, he is guilty of rape. No 'opinion' is above that. It's not even a debate.