Looks like he will be signed by Oldham. A lot of people seem to think he should get another chance at playing yet have a problem with a club actually approaching him!
I suspect if he does sign he will do very well but I cannot imagine the abuse he will get. Makes me wonder if it is even worth it
What adds to the disgrace is that Oldham (or insert any other small clubs name here) are rubbing their hands together at the thought of getting a reasonable striker for no fee and a rumoured £400-a-week wage against taking the flak/abuse/loss of sponsorship money in the hope he does well and it somehow all blows over and they can sell him for £X,000,000 after a while...
What adds to the disgrace is that Oldham (or insert any other small clubs name here) are rubbing their hands together at the thought of getting a reasonable striker for no fee and a rumoured £400-a-week wage against taking the flak/abuse/loss of sponsorship money in the hope he does well and it somehow all blows over and they can sell him for £X,000,000 after a while...
It's wrong
Seriously? £400 a week?!
I will finally earn as much as a league one striker. I've made it mum!
What adds to the disgrace is that Oldham (or insert any other small clubs name here) are rubbing their hands together at the thought of getting a reasonable striker for no fee and a rumoured £400-a-week wage against taking the flak/abuse/loss of sponsorship money in the hope he does well and it somehow all blows over and they can sell him for £X,000,000 after a while...
It's wrong
I don't know if they will be as confident as to be 'rubbing their hands together'. Anyone with a degree of sense willing to take a punt on this will surely know that they are going to come in for a lot of trouble along the way, even if there is a profit on the other side.
I do sympathise with the point of view that he cannot show remorse if he genuinely believes himself to be innocent.
I don't
As the article says
"He has not apologised to the victim, who has had to change her name and residence. He has not called off the attack dogs on social media who continue to hound the victim; at the very least, Evans should distance himself from them. Evans is being supported by those who like him as a footballer, by some who believe he is a victim of a miscarriage of justice, but also by a spite‑filled rabble of misogynists.
If Evans, or his girlfriend’s father, is paying for PR advice, let’s hope they have kept the receipts. The campaign has so far been a collection of own goals, starting with the scripted statement on video which contained no hint of penitence towards the victim, no repudiation of the “I’ve got a bird” culture.
The website set up defending Evans ranges from the naive to the nasty, and it is no surprise to learn that the victim’s father has asked the Attorney General to look into it. Those seeking to ease a convicted rapist back into football should have seen all these objections and obstacles and yet they stumble on, stirring even more anger towards Evans. On Evans’s release, his lobbyists should have published a statement saying that he will focus on the continuing of the judicial process, on his appeal, before refocusing on football.
The argument that Evans cannot voice any regret because he is appealing, and it would be an admission of guilt, is specious. He can still express some regret over the way his actions that night have affected a young woman’s life. No responsibility. No respect. The stench of the “I’ve got a bird” text lingers."
you don't need to show remorse but you can still accept your behavior and decision was wrong, and when the appeal fails and it will then he needs to say sorry and then he has the potential to move on, me i hope he rots from the inside out and then bleeds out in the gutter, but his actions are led by his guilt
I do sympathise with the point of view that he cannot show remorse if he genuinely believes himself to be innocent.
He's guilty. Simple as that. He appealed 2 years ago and they binned it off without second thought.
I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason he is appealing right now is so that it gives him some extra time to try and get a club. And not to mention the fact that he has probably told his nearest and dearest that he is innocent and doesn't want them to think otherwise.
Can a club the size of Oldham even afford to sign him? They only get about 4-5k crowds, sponsors are going to desert them, some fans will stop going, unbelievable amount of negative press.
Is it worth it?
I'm assuming the hope is, he scores goals that fires them up the table and those who were against him signing soon change their tune if/when they see their team doing well.
I didn't even realise how much Oldham had slid down the league one table. I'm pretty sure they were flying at one point. Makes even less sense bringing in Evans
Edit: Oh yeah, I didn't realise how tight it was. Maybe it is a good move then!
League one is ridiculously tight though. Oldham are 14th, but only actually 3 points off the play offs. 10 points separate the last play off place and the first relegation spot. Literally any side can go on a run and get promoted
He should be allowed to work. Football is his trade. He is not working with vulnerable people, so should be allowed back to playing football. In my view, its because footballers get paid lots of money for a what effectively is a hobby is why there is so much negative press surrounding this.
He should be allowed to work. Football is his trade. He is not working with vulnerable people, so should be allowed back to playing football. In my view, its because footballers get paid lots of money for a what effectively is a hobby is why there is so much negative press surrounding this.
He should be allowed to work. Football is his trade. He is not working with vulnerable people, so should be allowed back to playing football. In my view, its because footballers get paid lots of money for a what effectively is a hobby is why there is so much negative press surrounding this.
There is negative press because he is a rapist, nothing to do with what he does or doesn't earn
He should be allowed to work. Football is his trade. He is not working with vulnerable people, so should be allowed back to playing football. In my view, its because footballers get paid lots of money for a what effectively is a hobby is why there is so much negative press surrounding this.
There is negative press because he is a rapist, nothing to do with what he does or doesn't earn
Would there by such a fuss if he was returning to work as a binman??? I suspect not. Its because he is going back to a job that is well paid.
If he was my bin man and I found out he was a nonce id soon either be smacking the mug up and down the road, or demanding the council remove him, theres no place in society for convicted rapists
Pretty pointless comparison as I doubt the press would cover a rapist going back to work as a bin man so we wouldn't know. If however that bin man happened to work with me or visiting my house I would not be happy and would make sure I made my feelings known. I don't know why you are concentrating on what he earns it is more to do with the influence he has as a 'hero' to young fans what sort of example is it to them.
If he was my bin man and I found out he was a nonce id soon either be smacking the mug up and down the road, or demanding the council remove him, theres no place in society for convicted rapists
See, what can you do with these people? He should be allowed to work again.
He should be allowed to work. Football is his trade. He is not working with vulnerable people, so should be allowed back to playing football. In my view, its because footballers get paid lots of money for a what effectively is a hobby is why there is so much negative press surrounding this.
There is negative press because he is a rapist, nothing to do with what he does or doesn't earn
Would there by such a fuss if he was returning to work as a binman??? I suspect not. Its because he is going back to a job that is well paid.
There is an assumption that when others are convicted for a crime after they have received their sentence and complied with it threat they are welcomed back to their job with open arms. I don't know how true this is however there is an example I know of where a guy was sharing a flat with a girl, one day she noticed that there was a flashing red light in the corner of her room and discovered it was a camera, to cut a long story short the camera went to the flat mates computers and he was convicted of a sexual crime, despicable and nasty but not rape. He received community service. His company sacked him.
I don't know how many businesses accept sexual offenders into their company, but I suspect that quite a few don't. For those that are actual employers will use the bringing the company in to disrepute and those that are recruiting will gently put aside the applications that have sex offenders within their criminal offence declarations.
The argument of what if he was a bin man may not be as strong as some suspect.
And his victim should be allowed to live in peace without being hounded out of numerous new homes by supporters of a convicted rapist but she can't do that either. I know which one I have sympathy with.
Pretty pointless comparison as I doubt the press would cover a rapist going back to work as a bin man so we wouldn't know. If however that bin man happened to work with me or visiting my house I would not be happy and would make sure I made my feelings known. I don't know why you are concentrating on what he earns it is more to do with the influence he has as a 'hero' to young fans what sort of example is it to them.
I meant if Ched Evans after leaving jail decided to be a binman rather than try to pursue a career as a footballer. No way would there be such a fuss over it. Its because he wants to return to a highly paid job that is seen as a dream job for most.
Footballers are not role models really and nor should they be.
Lio Messi is being charged over tax evasion. If convicted, should he not be allowed to continue to play football because he is a hero? Admittedly tax evasion isnt on the same level as rape...but it is still wrong morally and legally. Joey barton has been to prison for gbh/abh and he continues to play. Where do you draw the line? He should be allowed to work again as long as he is not doing a job where vulnerable people are at risk. Footballers do not need to be put in such a position. I could be wrong, but i suspect it would be illegal for the fa to prevent him from working as a footballer.
And his victim should be allowed to live in peace without being hounded out of numerous new homes by supporters of a convicted rapist but she can't do that either. I know which one I have sympathy with.
I also totally agree with this, really feel for the poor girl and her family.
I said on numerous previous threads he should have the right to play again but the football community should be self policing and not employ him. Whether players like it or not young fans look up to them and aspire to be like them and rightly or wrongly that makes them a role model.
I said on numerous previous threads he should have the right to play again but the football community should be self policing and not employ him. Whether players like it or not young fans look up to them and aspire to be like them and rightly or wrongly that makes them a role model.
What about players that have committed other crimes? See my post above. Where do you draw the line?
I said on numerous previous threads he should have the right to play again but the football community should be self policing and not employ him. Whether players like it or not young fans look up to them and aspire to be like them and rightly or wrongly that makes them a role model.
What about players that have committed other crimes? See my post above. Where do you draw the line?
Don't know but wherever the line is rape is well over it.
It's quite clear that the fans of EVERY club he gets linked with, will kick off and cause a fuss about him. As things stand it's unlikely he'll ever play pro football again.
The only way round it is surely for him to completely change tack, admit he did it, stop appealing, apologise publicly and tell trolls to stop hounding the victim so she can get on with her life.
Until he does this, i don't see how fans of any club will ever accept him signing for them.
I agree with this. It'll be interesting to see if he ever does that if he genuinely believes it was consensual sex.
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I suspect if he does sign he will do very well but I cannot imagine the abuse he will get. Makes me wonder if it is even worth it
It's wrong
I will finally earn as much as a league one striker. I've made it mum!
As the article says
"He has not apologised to the victim, who has had to change her name and residence. He has not called off the attack dogs on social media who continue to hound the victim; at the very least, Evans should distance himself from them. Evans is being supported by those who like him as a footballer, by some who believe he is a victim of a miscarriage of justice, but also by a spite‑filled rabble of misogynists.
If Evans, or his girlfriend’s father, is paying for PR advice, let’s hope they have kept the receipts. The campaign has so far been a collection of own goals, starting with the scripted statement on video which contained no hint of penitence towards the victim, no repudiation of the “I’ve got a bird” culture.
The website set up defending Evans ranges from the naive to the nasty, and it is no surprise to learn that the victim’s father has asked the Attorney General to look into it. Those seeking to ease a convicted rapist back into football should have seen all these objections and obstacles and yet they stumble on, stirring even more anger towards Evans. On Evans’s release, his lobbyists should have published a statement saying that he will focus on the continuing of the judicial process, on his appeal, before refocusing on football.
The argument that Evans cannot voice any regret because he is appealing, and it would be an admission of guilt, is specious. He can still express some regret over the way his actions that night have affected a young woman’s life. No responsibility. No respect. The stench of the “I’ve got a bird” text lingers."
I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason he is appealing right now is so that it gives him some extra time to try and get a club. And not to mention the fact that he has probably told his nearest and dearest that he is innocent and doesn't want them to think otherwise.
Is it worth it?
I'm assuming the hope is, he scores goals that fires them up the table and those who were against him signing soon change their tune if/when they see their team doing well.
Edit: Oh yeah, I didn't realise how tight it was. Maybe it is a good move then!
I don't know how many businesses accept sexual offenders into their company, but I suspect that quite a few don't. For those that are actual employers will use the bringing the company in to disrepute and those that are recruiting will gently put aside the applications that have sex offenders within their criminal offence declarations.
The argument of what if he was a bin man may not be as strong as some suspect.
Footballers are not role models really and nor should they be.
Lio Messi is being charged over tax evasion. If convicted, should he not be allowed to continue to play football because he is a hero? Admittedly tax evasion isnt on the same level as rape...but it is still wrong morally and legally. Joey barton has been to prison for gbh/abh and he continues to play. Where do you draw the line?
He should be allowed to work again as long as he is not doing a job where vulnerable people are at risk. Footballers do not need to be put in such a position. I could be wrong, but i suspect it would be illegal for the fa to prevent him from working as a footballer.