This season Ryan Mason has become a Tottenham regular, keeping some expensive signings out of the team (Paulinho was on the bench yesterday for example). As he seems to have come from nowhere, you tend to think of him as a youngster when he is actually 23, and is actually another Obika, someone who's been with Spurs for years, and has had a series of unglamorous loans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_MasonLast season he was on loan in L1 at Swindon, this year he's a PL regular, which shows the way football has gone, the giant teams accumulating hordes of young players, most of whom (like Obika) will never play for the 1st team. It makes you wonder what sort of talent is currently rotting in the Development Squads of these clubs, and as a youngster whether it's better to get the Cat 1 coaching and facilities of the big boys or the playing time opportunities of a smaller club?
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The answer is in there, if your at Scunthorpe on £300 a week with first team football or Tottenham offer you £2.5k a week and a possible meaningless Europa league game in 18 months and a premiership sub appearance in 3 years.
love of game or love of Pound note.
Me, pound note all day whilst you can as you don't know how long your career will last, the main reason why the small clubs will usually stay small.
It's terrible so see good talented youth players rotting away and potentially never reaching their potential, but you can see how they end up there.
Probably still getting decent money, better facilities, more clubs may look to loan the player and better players alongside them. I'm not saying that is a replacement for first team consistant football, but in the heads of the players, they all want to make the most out of the time they have. That is why it is important for teams like us to have a decent youth system which will make them want to stay.
He got a good wage no doubt, plenty of game time on loan and is now playing in the premier league.
Yes, for every Mason there is an Obika but he also got plenty of game time, a good wage for 6 or 7 years and is now playing in league 1 which is no disgrace. Scored again on Saturday and could be promoted with Swindon.
If you are already making a name for yourself like poyet was I say you continue to do so and then either head upwards with your current club or having built a reputation, earn a move upwards. As an 18/20 year old the difference from 4th division to premier league is a no brainer from a money perspective. At championship and premier league a few more factors need to be considered
As I said ask the player what he wants more, a big contract or to play regular first team football. Its the same as asking people on here do you want a big pay packet or a job you enjoy doing?
Only the person involved can answer that.
It took Pochetino, someone who believes in hard working cohesive Latin football to play him. Leon Brittain > Martinez, Mason > Pochettino. Let's hope Tom Carroll will get good game time at Swansea.
I suspect that many are happy to take the money for a few good years, stash it away for the future, and then, when all hope of a top class career is gone, a switch to a lower league club on a decent wage will see them all right until they come close to retirement. I am not saying that the players named here fall into that category, but Dawkins and Obika, both late of Spurs, played few if any first team games at Spurs and are now playing at a decent level a division or two lower. Both made the move in their mid twenties. As is well known, Chelsea at the minute have some twenty six players out on loan. This farming and stockpiling of players is surely bad for the game.
I recently saw Bamford playing for Middlebrough. He was by far the most skilful player on the pitch. He is on loan to 'Boro from Chelsea. He has little or no chance of ever becoming a regular first teamer at Chelsea. 'Boro get a potential promotion gaining player on the cheap, Chelsea are able to manipulate the career of a fine player. Not good on either count.
He played the full game Saturday, ok they let a 2 goal lead go but it will be good to play regularly.
The two players Michael Woods and Tom Taiwo were both released after 4 or 5 years and are now playing for Hartlepool and Falkirk . It will be interesting to see how Kasey Palmer progresses.
My sort of point was that the player at a club like Chelsea or Spurs, hardly playing and then getting released added 22-23 might have been well paid, but at a fraction of the level of the big stars, and will have lost much of the drive of players who've played regularly. Probably not a good example currently, but someone like Lallana who's played regularly for Soton and got his move at 25, will be on the sort of serious money that the Dawkins and Obikas can only dream of.
£780'000 or £364.000
You can see why many take the Pound note route.
No brainer imo, as much as I love football, I love my family more and theyre security would be at the forefront.
forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/60781/jonathan-obika-sam-hutchinson-et-al-time-to-move-on#latest
Wenger must be on here because I asked for Campbell and he sent us Coquelin instead ;-)
Ask Sam appiah, mark tivey, mark debolla, tamar tuna and countless others if they were offered the same opportunity as Sean Mcginty when Man Utd showed an interest, would they have turned it down?
Strangely given their commitment to the free market, this is how American Football works