George Tucadean (pg.5-6 - Joined Steaua Bucharest on 1 1/2yr loan)
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Am i the only one who sings
'Used to be shite, and now he's still shite'
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I see a future in poetry for you...Big_Bob said:Am i the only one who sings
'Used to be shite, and now he's still shite'
About Wilson
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Point being that if you are exceptional you can by definition make the transition, but many of the players we are signing are not.nth london addick said:Airman Brown said:Talking to a very experienced ex-pro yesterday he was clear that Tucudean and others in our current squad will never be good enough to play at this level because they weren't brought up physically to compete in the way our league requires. He doesn't think they can possibly adapt at their current age, even if their technical ability is good enough to play on the continent at a high level.
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Strength can be gained and the ability to take a hit and carry on can be learned, our problem is not the inability to take the strain of British football, it's lack of technical ability and speed of thought all that once you reach an age you may aswell forget it
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Yes, many foreign players never make it in the UK as the style of football is different. That was one of the reason many managers (Curbs for example) tended to buy Scandinavians as their first foreign players, as they play more of a British style (especially the long ball Norwegians of the 90s!)Airman Brown said:Talking to a very experienced ex-pro yesterday he was clear that Tucudean and others in our current squad will never be good enough to play at this level because they weren't brought up physically to compete in the way our league requires. He doesn't think they can possibly adapt at their current age, even if their technical ability is good enough to play on the continent at a high level.
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Its being reported in Romanian press that George is close to signing for Steau Bucharest. They offered 800K Euros. We want (for some unknown reason) 1million and it says agreement may be reached at 850K + 20% profit. (of course they won't be any profit when they realise how bad he is). Grab it before they realise.6
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Yep, the Scandinavians, Dutch and Germans I would mix in with our boys.killerandflash said:
Yes, many foreign players never make it in the UK as the style of football is different. That was one of the reason many managers (Curbs for example) tended to buy Scandinavians as their first foreign players, as they play more of a British style (especially the long ball Norwegians of the 90s!)Airman Brown said:Talking to a very experienced ex-pro yesterday he was clear that Tucudean and others in our current squad will never be good enough to play at this level because they weren't brought up physically to compete in the way our league requires. He doesn't think they can possibly adapt at their current age, even if their technical ability is good enough to play on the continent at a high level.
Their mentality is more disciplined, can settle in the country better with being culturally very similar. These things have to be factored into consideration when bringing in a player.
Have a look at the squad of 99/00
1 Republic of Ireland GK Dean Kiely
2 England DF Anthony Barness
3 England DF Chris Powell
4 England MF Graham Stuart
5 England DF Richard Rufus
6 England DF Carl Tiler
7 England MF Shaun Newton
8 Republic of Ireland MF Mark Kinsella
9 England FW Andy Hunt
10 England FW Clive Mendonca
11 Wales MF John Robinson
12 England DF Steve Brown
13 Serbia and Montenegro GK Sasa Ilic
14 Sweden FW Martin Pringle
15 England DF Eddie Youds
16 Scotland DF Greg Shields
17 England MF Scott Parker
No. Position Player
18 England DF Paul Konchesky
19 England DF Andy Todd
20 England MF Keith Jones
22 England GK Simon Royce
23 England DF Anthony Allman
24 England DF Jonathan Fortune
25 England FW Leigh Hales
27 England MF Kemal Izzet
28 England DF Kevin James
29 England FW Kevin Lisbie
30 England FW Charlie MacDonald
31 England FW Mark McCammon
32 Wales GK Sam Turner
33 Sweden FW Mathias Svensson
34 England MF John Salako
35 Belgium DF Steve Barbé (on loan from Molenbeek)
36 England FW Paul Kitson (on loan from West Ham United1 -
Ahhh, so that's where it all started. Thanks Curbs.ElfsborgAddick said:
Yep, the Scandinavians, Dutch and Germans I would mix in with our boys.killerandflash said:
Yes, many foreign players never make it in the UK as the style of football is different. That was one of the reason many managers (Curbs for example) tended to buy Scandinavians as their first foreign players, as they play more of a British style (especially the long ball Norwegians of the 90s!)Airman Brown said:Talking to a very experienced ex-pro yesterday he was clear that Tucudean and others in our current squad will never be good enough to play at this level because they weren't brought up physically to compete in the way our league requires. He doesn't think they can possibly adapt at their current age, even if their technical ability is good enough to play on the continent at a high level.
Their mentality is more disciplined, can settle in the country better with being culturally very similar. These things have to be factored into consideration when bringing in a player.
Have a look at the squad of 99/00
1 Republic of Ireland GK Dean Kiely
2 England DF Anthony Barness
3 England DF Chris Powell
4 England MF Graham Stuart
5 England DF Richard Rufus
6 England DF Carl Tiler
7 England MF Shaun Newton
8 Republic of Ireland MF Mark Kinsella
9 England FW Andy Hunt
10 England FW Clive Mendonca
11 Wales MF John Robinson
12 England DF Steve Brown
13 Serbia and Montenegro GK Sasa Ilic
14 Sweden FW Martin Pringle
15 England DF Eddie Youds
16 Scotland DF Greg Shields
17 England MF Scott Parker
No. Position Player
18 England DF Paul Konchesky
19 England DF Andy Todd
20 England MF Keith Jones
22 England GK Simon Royce
23 England DF Anthony Allman
24 England DF Jonathan Fortune
25 England FW Leigh Hales
27 England MF Kemal Izzet
28 England DF Kevin James
29 England FW Kevin Lisbie
30 England FW Charlie MacDonald
31 England FW Mark McCammon
32 Wales GK Sam Turner
33 Sweden FW Mathias Svensson
34 England MF John Salako
35 Belgium DF Steve Barbé (on loan from Molenbeek)
36 England FW Paul Kitson (on loan from West Ham United14 -
I'd Heard 800K twigs or slibs or whatever currency they use, and it still seemed like a good deal IF we reinvest it in CAFC, not RD or Standard Liege.0
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Its now being reported in Romania that the president of Steau has pulled the plug on the deal. Should have taken the €800K when it was on the table.0
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Did they get TJ back to run the negotiation?cakey said:Its now being reported in Romania that the president of Steau has pulled the plug on the deal. Should have taken the €800K when it was on the table.
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They don't need TJ's assistance, they're quite capable of screwing up transfer negotiations off their own bat as evidenced by the track record so far. :-0Airman Brown said:
Did they get TJ back to run the negotiation?cakey said:Its now being reported in Romania that the president of Steau has pulled the plug on the deal. Should have taken the €800K when it was on the table.
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Beat me to it.Airman Brown said:
Did they get TJ back to run the negotiation?cakey said:Its now being reported in Romania that the president of Steau has pulled the plug on the deal. Should have taken the €800K when it was on the table.
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I'd take 80k for Tucudean, let alone 800k. Bloody hell.1
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One of the most enigmatic forwards ever to play for us.
3 and a half MOM performances (45 mins against Derby)
16 poor performances.
I still find it hard to believe the CAFC coaches couldn't get some average
games out of him instead of the poor ones.
The second half against Cardiff he could of had 5 assists as well as two goals which hit the post and saved on the line.
If this is the end of your CAFC story then it's a mystery why you were so inconsistent.
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This is how I see it. That Cardiff game was one of the best performances I've seen from a Charlton striker since being relegated from the Championship in 2009. Ironically, he didn't score or make any goals or assists, but he could have.soapboxsam said:One of the most enigmatic forwards ever to play for us.
3 and a half MOM performances (45 mins against Derby)
16 poor performances.
I still find it hard to believe the CAFC coaches couldn't get some average
games out of him instead of the poor ones.
The second half against Cardiff he could of had 5 assists as well as two goals which hit the post and saved on the line.
If this is the end of your CAFC story then it's a mystery why you were so inconsistent.
I guess that's the problem with George - plenty of 'could haves'.
I'd still rather he stayed though, unless we really are receiving a fee close to the ones quoted.
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He's young, only been playing in a different country for a few months, shown more effort and achieved a lot more than Reza imho. I'd like to keep him for another season at least. He needs to work on the physical side but he's definitely got ability.3
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I'm not very good with big words. Does enigmatic mean crap?soapboxsam said:One of the most enigmatic forwards ever to play for us.
3 and a half MOM performances (45 mins against Derby)
16 poor performances.
I still find it hard to believe the CAFC coaches couldn't get some average
games out of him instead of the poor ones.
The second half against Cardiff he could of had 5 assists as well as two goals which hit the post and saved on the line.
If this is the end of your CAFC story then it's a mystery why you were so inconsistent.5 -
There us a player in there. Needs to learn the subtleties of the physical side. Rather than jump into someone he needs to stand close and ease the defender out of the way. Has the touch, skill, decent with both feet and not as slow as some say.1
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800k would get us Matt smith IMO1
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He has some talent, but he is neither a goal poacher nor a hold up CF. Bye bye hopefully.0
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This season's Dave Mooney.2
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800k might just about pay off the fine Liege have got coming their way for their banner at the weekend.5
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I thought he had to give up the dream of being a pro footballer at a young age which is why he's now an actor.Greenie Junior said:800k would get us Matt smith IMO
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I can't believe that Duchatelet was holding out for 1 million when he could have got 800K Euros (if this is true). Now the deal is dead in the water ? Un'bloody'believable. I feckin' hope this is not the thing that prevents Charlton from investing in a creative midfielder and striker. If this happens, I do believe it is proven that Duchatelet is not a genius businessman but a complete idiot of the highest order.cakey said:Its being reported in Romanian press that George is close to signing for Steau Bucharest. They offered 800K Euros. We want (for some unknown reason) 1million and it says agreement may be reached at 850K + 20% profit. (of course they won't be any profit when they realise how bad he is). Grab it before they realise.
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Let's see what happens between now and Monday night.vff said:
I can't believe that Duchatelet was holding out for 1 million when he could have got 800K Euros (if this is true). Now the deal is dead in the water ? Un'bloody'believable. I feckin' hope this is not the thing that prevents Charlton from investing in a creative midfielder and striker. If this happens, I do believe it is proven that Duchatelet is not a genius businessman but a complete idiot of the highest order.cakey said:Its being reported in Romanian press that George is close to signing for Steau Bucharest. They offered 800K Euros. We want (for some unknown reason) 1million and it says agreement may be reached at 850K + 20% profit. (of course they won't be any profit when they realise how bad he is). Grab it before they realise.
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I want to believe. Duchatelet makes it so bloody difficult and challenging.2
