The best response to attention-seeking prats like Dean is to ignore them in the knowledge that they're probably very unhappy. Or tell them to get to ****. anything in between is compromise
When Bournemouth won promotion before the Charlton game... Because they were only three points clear of us, no one thought about the 19-0 scoreline that Charlton could have beaten them by to stop them getting an automatic spot (Didnt really work out too well come matchday though)
To play Devils Advocate he does kind of have a point. If we have so many employees that one of them has nothing better to do than make a video of our goalkeeper's saves then maybe that money could be used to better effect strengthening the first team squad.
I also agree that any official company statement that sets out to belittle the customer base is the wrong side of professional for me. The 19-0 was a great bit of PR, and was clearly tongue in cheek, this last one wasn't. Also I don't think the two tweets shouldn't be compared as one was from the outgoing communications employee and one from his 'replacement'.
I'm, obviously, not the only one to think like I do as the tweets seem to have been removed now. I don't know Olly, personally, but if he'd worked for any of the companies I have, I suspect that he might have been removed as well.
To play Devils Advocate he does kind of have a point. If we have so many employees that one of them has nothing better to do than make a video of our goalkeeper's saves then maybe that money could be used to better effect strengthening the first team squad.
I also agree that any official company statement that sets out to belittle the customer base is the wrong side of professional for me. The 19-0 was a great bit of PR, and was clearly tongue in cheek, this last one wasn't. It wouldn't have been so bad if Olly hadn't gone on to brag about how happy he was to have insulted the fan and confirmed that he'd wanted to do so for ages. Also I don't think the two tweets shouldn't be compared as one was from the outgoing communications employee and one from his 'replacement'.
I'm, obviously, not the only one to think like I do as the tweets seem to have been removed now. I don't know Olly, personally, but if he'd worked for any of the companies I have, I suspect that he might have been removed as well.
You seem to be making reference to a comment I made on my PERSONAL Facebook page. Love to know how you might have read it and why you thought it appropriate to publicly state it on here. I can only assume from your comments that you know Mr Martin personally?
To play Devils Advocate he does kind of have a point. If we have so many employees that one of them has nothing better to do than make a video of our goalkeeper's saves then maybe that money could be used to better effect strengthening the first team squad.
I also agree that any official company statement that sets out to belittle the customer base is the wrong side of professional for me. The 19-0 was a great bit of PR, and was clearly tongue in cheek, this last one wasn't. It wouldn't have been so bad if Olly hadn't gone on to brag about how happy he was to have insulted the fan and confirmed that he'd wanted to do so for ages. Also I don't think the two tweets shouldn't be compared as one was from the outgoing communications employee and one from his 'replacement'.
I'm, obviously, not the only one to think like I do as the tweets seem to have been removed now. I don't know Olly, personally, but if he'd worked for any of the companies I have, I suspect that he might have been removed as well.
Lighten up. Someone suggested he, or some of his colleagues, should be fired and he responded in a light hearted way. No foul language (in the face of someone who is a complete moron).
It typifies our Twitter feed - it doesn't take itself too seriously and is, generally, spot on.
Fair play Olly. You may have got a bollocking for it but you get a thumbs up from me and several others.
To play Devils Advocate he does kind of have a point. If we have so many employees that one of them has nothing better to do than make a video of our goalkeeper's saves then maybe that money could be used to better effect strengthening the first team squad.
I also agree that any official company statement that sets out to belittle the customer base is the wrong side of professional for me. The 19-0 was a great bit of PR, and was clearly tongue in cheek, this last one wasn't. It wouldn't have been so bad if Olly hadn't gone on to brag about how happy he was to have insulted the fan and confirmed that he'd wanted to do so for ages. Also I don't think the two tweets shouldn't be compared as one was from the outgoing communications employee and one from his 'replacement'.
I'm, obviously, not the only one to think like I do as the tweets seem to have been removed now. I don't know Olly, personally, but if he'd worked for any of the companies I have, I suspect that he might have been removed as well.
No he doesn't.
The person that made the YouTube clip (probably took an hour to edit) is part of the media team. How much would someone like that earn? 20k-30k per year possibly?...so about a months wages for a player. Hardly gonna strengthen anything.
To play Devils Advocate he does kind of have a point. If we have so many employees that one of them has nothing better to do than make a video of our goalkeeper's saves then maybe that money could be used to better effect strengthening the first team squad.
Producing video content for fans to watch is literally one of the jobs that the media department is there for! Engaging with the fan base, producing a video they'd want to watch. In a roundabout way, advertising the club - come and watch Hendo making these saves next year etc.
What next - we clearly have too many staff if Tony Watt has time to run around and play football?!
Plus how much realistically do you think someone in the media department would earn and how long that would pay the wages of a professional footballer?
To play Devils Advocate he does kind of have a point. If we have so many employees that one of them has nothing better to do than make a video of our goalkeeper's saves then maybe that money could be used to better effect strengthening the first team squad.
I also agree that any official company statement that sets out to belittle the customer base is the wrong side of professional for me. The 19-0 was a great bit of PR, and was clearly tongue in cheek, this last one wasn't. It wouldn't have been so bad if Olly hadn't gone on to brag about how happy he was to have insulted the fan and confirmed that he'd wanted to do so for ages. Also I don't think the two tweets shouldn't be compared as one was from the outgoing communications employee and one from his 'replacement'.
I'm, obviously, not the only one to think like I do as the tweets seem to have been removed now. I don't know Olly, personally, but if he'd worked for any of the companies I have, I suspect that he might have been removed as well.
You seem to be making reference to a comment I made on my PERSONAL Facebook page. Love to know how you might have read it and why you thought it appropriate to publicly state it on here. I can only assume from your comments that you know Mr Martin personally?
I'm not friends with you on FB Olly but I saw it.
You had your privacy setting on new posts set to 'Public' so it was bound to happen should a friend of a friend like it or something.
To play Devils Advocate he does kind of have a point. If we have so many employees that one of them has nothing better to do than make a video of our goalkeeper's saves then maybe that money could be used to better effect strengthening the first team squad.
Producing video content for fans to watch is literally one of the jobs that the media department is there for! Engaging with the fan base, producing a video they'd want to watch. In a roundabout way, advertising the club - come and watch Hendo making these saves next year etc.
What next - we clearly have too many staff if Tony Watt has time to run around and play football?!
Plus how much realistically do you think someone in the media department would earn and how long that would pay the wages of a professional footballer?
Not that it needs to be pointed out that, obviously, his 'point' was ridiculous, but worth mentioning I am currently the only full-time content provider in the communications department as it stands.
To play Devils Advocate he does kind of have a point. If we have so many employees that one of them has nothing better to do than make a video of our goalkeeper's saves then maybe that money could be used to better effect strengthening the first team squad.
I also agree that any official company statement that sets out to belittle the customer base is the wrong side of professional for me. The 19-0 was a great bit of PR, and was clearly tongue in cheek, this last one wasn't. It wouldn't have been so bad if Olly hadn't gone on to brag about how happy he was to have insulted the fan and confirmed that he'd wanted to do so for ages. Also I don't think the two tweets shouldn't be compared as one was from the outgoing communications employee and one from his 'replacement'.
I'm, obviously, not the only one to think like I do as the tweets seem to have been removed now. I don't know Olly, personally, but if he'd worked for any of the companies I have, I suspect that he might have been removed as well.
"nothing better to do"
What "better" things would someone in the comms time be doing?
Their job (those that are still there that is because a lot have already walked out and not been replaced. Thereis still no head of comms to replace Matt Wright) is to produce content that interests customers (us) and so drives traffic to the website (CAFC get paid on how many hits we get which is the main reason we switched to that horrible FL site many years ago).
So someone doing the job they are paid to do is attacked and it is suggested that he and/or his colleagues lose their job because someone wants player signings now.
The spurious reasoning being that if they sack someone in the press team that will automatically mean the club has the resources to sign a player.
Ignores the huge differences in wages from a press officer and a player and that player recruitment rarely takes place in May but hey, the staff are an easy target.
Was Olly's response abusive? No. Most people inside and outside of Charlton saw it for what it was ie a mildly funny put down of a troll. And the tweets haven't been removed as far as I can see,
You can argue that Olly should just let it wash over him but maybe when the press team are short staffed and then get attacked for doing nothing other than their job their can be forgiven for giving a little back.
I run a corporate account. I had to ban myself from posting responses to the public. It's too easy to get into trouble, even if you are responding in exactly the same manner that you were attacked.
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* apologies for the 50 year old pop culture reference!
It's not now.
#oldblokes
I also agree that any official company statement that sets out to belittle the customer base is the wrong side of professional for me. The 19-0 was a great bit of PR, and was clearly tongue in cheek, this last one wasn't. Also I don't think the two tweets shouldn't be compared as one was from the outgoing communications employee and one from his 'replacement'.
I'm, obviously, not the only one to think like I do as the tweets seem to have been removed now. I don't know Olly, personally, but if he'd worked for any of the companies I have, I suspect that he might have been removed as well.
It typifies our Twitter feed - it doesn't take itself too seriously and is, generally, spot on.
Fair play Olly. You may have got a bollocking for it but you get a thumbs up from me and several others.
The person that made the YouTube clip (probably took an hour to edit) is part of the media team. How much would someone like that earn? 20k-30k per year possibly?...so about a months wages for a player. Hardly gonna strengthen anything.
What next - we clearly have too many staff if Tony Watt has time to run around and play football?!
Plus how much realistically do you think someone in the media department would earn and how long that would pay the wages of a professional footballer?
You had your privacy setting on new posts set to 'Public' so it was bound to happen should a friend of a friend like it or something.
What "better" things would someone in the comms time be doing?
Their job (those that are still there that is because a lot have already walked out and not been replaced. Thereis still no head of comms to replace Matt Wright) is to produce content that interests customers (us) and so drives traffic to the website (CAFC get paid on how many hits we get which is the main reason we switched to that horrible FL site many years ago).
So someone doing the job they are paid to do is attacked and it is suggested that he and/or his colleagues lose their job because someone wants player signings now.
The spurious reasoning being that if they sack someone in the press team that will automatically mean the club has the resources to sign a player.
Ignores the huge differences in wages from a press officer and a player and that player recruitment rarely takes place in May but hey, the staff are an easy target.
Was Olly's response abusive? No. Most people inside and outside of Charlton saw it for what it was ie a mildly funny put down of a troll. And the tweets haven't been removed as far as I can see,
You can argue that Olly should just let it wash over him but maybe when the press team are short staffed and then get attacked for doing nothing other than their job their can be forgiven for giving a little back.