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Rank Charlton's managers from 2007- onwards

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  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128

    Should the thread title not be.

    R WANK, Charlton's managers since 2007

    Arm-ache

  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167

    1. Powell
    2. Riga
    3. Luzon
    4. Parkinson
    5. Peeters
    6. Pardew
    7. Dowie

    Had Riga stayed for longer he could've been #1.

    1. Powell
    2. Riga
    3. Luzon
    4. Parkinson
    5. Peeters
    6. Pardew
    7. Dowie

    Had Riga stayed for longer he could've been #1.

    Had Dowie been allowed to stay he WOULD have been #1.
  • Bryan_Kynsie
    Bryan_Kynsie Posts: 2,179
    wmcf123 said:

    Phil Parkinson presided over the club's worst ever winless streak and relegation to league one. he was, rightly, fired and Charlton achieved promotion with SCP. Phil Parkinson is a competent league one manager, nothing more.

    I agree with this. Oddly, we're in a minority
    I agree with this minority. People are giving him credit for what he has done at Bradford. The football and tactics under his regime with us were poor as were the results.
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    1. Jose Riga
    2. Chris Powell
    3. Phil Parkinson
    4. Guy Luzon
    5. Bob Peeters
    6. Alan Pardew
    7. Dowie
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    1. Guy Luzon
    2. Phil Parkinson
    3. Chris Powell
    4. José Riga
    5. Bob Peeters
    6. Alan Pardew
    7. Iain Dowie
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,024
    Powell
    Riga
    luzon
    parky
    peeters
    pardew
    dowie
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,432
    1. Chris Powell
    2. Guy Luzon
    3. Jose Riga
    4. Phil Parkinson
    5. Alan Prickdew
    6. Bob Peetersh
    7. Iain Dowie
  • Wasnt Dowie 2006?
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,335
    1.. Chris Powell
    2. Parky
    3. Luzon
    4. Riga
    5. Bob Peeters
    6. Pardew
    7. Bald twat.

  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,200
    1.SCP

    One love

    The rest I didn't fall in love with

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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,905
    I too dont understand this Parkinson being in top 3 malarkey.

    Took on longest run without a win.
    Took us down from the Championship.
    Failed to get us out of League 1.
    Lost to a non league team live in TV in the cup.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,447
    Parkinson always had us challenging for promotion in League One when the club was in a horrible financial situation. I don't think anyone would have kept us up in the championship that season.

    I think had Parky stayed he would have got us up. That's not me discrediting the job Powelly did (he made some terrific signings in the 11/12 season), but Parkinson always seemed like a decent manager to me.

    A lot of us had an affinity towards him because he seemed to care about the club and was a genuinely nice bloke.
  • StigThundercock
    StigThundercock Posts: 3,722
    1. Jose Riga transformed a ropey and dispirited side
    2. Guy Luzon hard to get used to him and his twitchy persona but rescued our season
    3= Phil Parkinson inherited the ponse's detritus and never had a paid for transfer in, dignified and likeable despit his impossible job
    4= Chris Powell hugely likeable but only did well with the most expensively assembled squad in the division, struggled before and after
    5. Bob Peeters early promise succumbed by his unpleasant personality
    6. Iain Dowie he must have been thoroughly plausible at the interview (if not 1st choice) his record since speaks for itself
    7. Alan Pardew results temporarily better than Dowie's but first hand accounts of his time at Charlton and Southampton will rank him bottom until an acknowledged lower form of life is recruited to the post (e.g. David Mellor, George Osborne, Josef Mengele)
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    cafcnick1992 - look forward to seeing what the averages are!
  • Tramp
    Tramp Posts: 202
    1 Chris Powell
    2 Phil Parkinson
    3 Jose Riga

    The rest nowhere, Dowie easily the worst, Luzon may get somewhere.
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,335
    Stig, I'm pretty sure that Parkinson paid money for Abbott, Francis, Benson and McCormack. Not a lot of money, granted, but hard to argue that any were successful.
  • 30k that bloke paid for Abbott, 30k we are cafc not hinckley or herne bay, what sort of fool pays 30 k for a bloke with tin tins hair and the skills of Russ abbot

    If pardont and Mr incredible wasn't on that list he would be rock bottom two bob nice jumpers shit Mgr
    just a nice bloke

  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,589
    1. Chris Powell
    2. Phil Parkinson
    3. José Riga
    4. Guy Luzon
    5. Bob Peeters
    6. Iain Dowie
    7. Alan Pardew
  • HantsAddick
    HantsAddick Posts: 2,423
    1. Chris Powell
    2. Jose Riga
    3. Phil Parkinson
    4. Guy Luzon
    5. Bob Peeters
    6. Alan Pardew
    7. Iain Dowie - by a long way! Should not really be on the list at all.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,152
    1.Chris Powell
    2.Jose Riga
    3.Guy Luzon
    4.Phil Parkinson
    5.Bob Peeters
    6.Iain Dowie
    7.Alan Pardew

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  • c4fcdenmark
    c4fcdenmark Posts: 2,041

    wmcf123 said:

    Phil Parkinson presided over the club's worst ever winless streak and relegation to league one. he was, rightly, fired and Charlton achieved promotion with SCP. Phil Parkinson is a competent league one manager, nothing more.

    I agree with this. Oddly, we're in a minority
    I agree with this minority. People are giving him credit for what he has done at Bradford. The football and tactics under his regime with us were poor as were the results.
    In our relegation season the slightly clueless and indecisive Parky played 38 different outfield players, mostly bad loans of his choice. Is that why he's in the top 3?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,152

    wmcf123 said:

    Phil Parkinson presided over the club's worst ever winless streak and relegation to league one. he was, rightly, fired and Charlton achieved promotion with SCP. Phil Parkinson is a competent league one manager, nothing more.

    I agree with this. Oddly, we're in a minority
    I agree with this minority. People are giving him credit for what he has done at Bradford. The football and tactics under his regime with us were poor as were the results.
    In our relegation season the slightly clueless and indecisive Parky played 38 different outfield players, mostly bad loans of his choice. Is that why he's in the top 3?
    Wasn't that Pardew?
  • c4fcdenmark
    c4fcdenmark Posts: 2,041

    wmcf123 said:

    Phil Parkinson presided over the club's worst ever winless streak and relegation to league one. he was, rightly, fired and Charlton achieved promotion with SCP. Phil Parkinson is a competent league one manager, nothing more.

    I agree with this. Oddly, we're in a minority
    I agree with this minority. People are giving him credit for what he has done at Bradford. The football and tactics under his regime with us were poor as were the results.
    In our relegation season the slightly clueless and indecisive Parky played 38 different outfield players, mostly bad loans of his choice. Is that why he's in the top 3?
    Wasn't that Pardew?
    Pardew was bad that season but clearly remember that figure being attributed to Parky.
  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,813

    wmcf123 said:

    Phil Parkinson presided over the club's worst ever winless streak and relegation to league one. he was, rightly, fired and Charlton achieved promotion with SCP. Phil Parkinson is a competent league one manager, nothing more.

    I agree with this. Oddly, we're in a minority
    I agree with this minority. People are giving him credit for what he has done at Bradford. The football and tactics under his regime with us were poor as were the results.
    In our relegation season the slightly clueless and indecisive Parky played 38 different outfield players, mostly bad loans of his choice. Is that why he's in the top 3?
    Er, there was a reason there were so many loanees - we had no money for signings because that big nosed fuckwit had spunked it all on clowns like McLeod and Varney.

    Blaming Parkinson for that season is like very unfair, the damage was done well before he took over.
  • c4fcdenmark
    c4fcdenmark Posts: 2,041
    No new manager bounce and presided over Charlton's worst EVER winless streak. (Not Parky's fault and makes him worthy of a top spot) oh, and we got relegated and persisted as a mid table league one side until his rightful demise.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,079

    No new manager bounce and presided over Charlton's worst EVER winless streak. (Not Parky's fault and makes him worthy of a top spot) oh, and we got relegated and persisted as a mid table league one side until his rightful demise.

    We finished fourth in our first season in League One.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,448
    And were in the play-offs when he was sacked. It was a bad run under Powell that left us in mid table.

    If Parky had a striker like BWP we'd probably gone up that first season in League 1.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,088
    edited June 2015
    I've had a little play with the rankings that people gave. Here are the results. It was remarkably consistent with all three measures of central tendency giving exactly the same rank order, so it seems fair to say that in the opinion of Lifers Chris Powell is the best manager since 2007. Bob Peeters was the most consistently ranked person being awarded 5th place on 23 occasions, 4th once and 6th once. Phil Parkinson was the one most likely to divide opinion getting a range of rankings from 1st to 6th. Personally, I think that reflects that there was some disappointment with his results but recognition that he was managing in very difficult circumstances (that of course is my spin on it though). Dowie was ranked as the worst though a handful of lifers marked him more favourably, perhaps belying the feeling that he might have turned things around given more time.

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  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,813

    No new manager bounce and presided over Charlton's worst EVER winless streak. (Not Parky's fault and makes him worthy of a top spot) oh, and we got relegated and persisted as a mid table league one side until his rightful demise.

    Missed automatic promotion from League One by two points in his first full season, but you know that's just those boring old fact things getting in the way.

    That season the three teams above us were Norwich - they had Grant Holt - Millwall - they had Steve Morison - and Leeds - they had Jermaine Beckford.

    Charlton? An over the hill and semi fit Deon Burton.

    Oh, and when Powell took over we went from Play Offs to bottom half of the table - underlining that Parkinson was getting the players to massively over perform.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,200
    Parky (assistant to Pardew so knew the players) had a worse points per game record than Pardew in our relegation season and managed the team for more than half the season (think it was 28 league games he managed us that season)
    That was as lame as an attempt at staving off relegation as you're ever likely to see
    And that is as big a reason as any for his low ratings as any , he was part of the problem and was never gonna be the cure in that most pathetic of all seasons