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Simon Makienok
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5 goals in 35 games. He will have his choice of clubs. That's until they find out he's a centre forward.16
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If it were up to me I'd keep him, I think he can be far more effective if used more intelligently in a league of lower quality. Can't blame him leaving, he can probably play at a higher level than the English third tier.3
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lol, you are as good as me at posting picturesricky_otto said:.
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I can see him doing very well in the Belgian Division 3, the cub's natural feeder league from now on.1
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Jesus this is why I hate Agents... They dont half speak bullshit on behalf of their Clients!!1
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All I can say it that his agent must have pretty low expectations if he thinks he's been a success...........5 goals in 35 games (1 in 7 !!) & at 6ft 6 doesn't get near to heading the ball most times.
Also like the way his agent isn't considering a return to Gothenberg.......I expect its the reason why they shipped him out in the first place
THEY DONT WANT HIM BECAUSE HE AINT ANY GOOD4 -
In all honesty I don't think any of the players coming in over the summer had a chance in hell of making a go of it. New country. New league, new life, new team mates and two inexperienced coaches and Fraye. A fan base at war with the club.
What an absolute fucking shambles. Wherever they end up it will be a damned sight better place to play football than The Valley. I wish all of them well.21 -
Yeah, I'm not quite sure what's happened when posting pictures?eaststandmike said:
lol, you are as good as me at posting picturesricky_otto said:.
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And if it were up to you, we would have an annual salary well above FFP limits! We are not going to be paying Parma the £3m quid they wanted when he came here on loan, so let him move on and Roland can look for another centre forward who can head the ball.SDAddick said:If it were up to me I'd keep him, I think he can be far more effective if used more intelligently in a league of lower quality. Can't blame him leaving, he can probably play at a higher level than the English third tier.
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I just posted one on another thread and the same happened. I suppose we cannot be funny and technicalricky_otto said:
Yeah, I'm not quite sure what's happened when posting pictures?eaststandmike said:
lol, you are as good as me at posting picturesricky_otto said:.
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Looks like he's getting abuse on twitter for this article. I love how "support the team not the regime" has devolved into "support players you think are 'proper Charlton' (been here five years or longer and/or are from the British Isles) and damn the rest."3
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Game of Thrones producer has just contacted his agent.4
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To be fair if I employed an agent, I'd expect him to speak bullshit on my behalf!ForeverAddickted said:Jesus this is why I hate Agents... They dont half speak bullshit on behalf of their Clients!!
It's hard when so many arrive at the same time, it's not like having 9 experience pros and 2 newcomers who can be covered, while they get used to British footballShootersHillGuru said:In all honesty I don't think any of the players coming in over the summer had a chance in hell of making a go of it. New country. New league, new life, new team mates and two inexperienced coaches and Fraye. A fan base at war with the club.
What an absolute fucking shambles. Wherever they end up it will be a damned sight better place to play football than The Valley. I wish all of them well.
Having said that, Makienok has rarely shown the attributes you'd expect from a target man striker, the instinctive movement to find space just isn't there and that's something which can't be taught1 -
When you look at the Rotherham game, that was exactly what he did. Igor was there to push the defensive line to drop off because of his pace, and Makienok dropped deep or pulled out wide to pick the ball up in space and bring others into play. Obviously one sparrow does not make a spring, but I still think there's something there.killerandflash said:
To be fair if I employed an agent, I'd expect him to speak bullshit on my behalf!ForeverAddickted said:Jesus this is why I hate Agents... They dont half speak bullshit on behalf of their Clients!!
It's hard when so many arrive at the same time, it's not like having 9 experience pros and 2 newcomers who can be covered, while they get used to British footballShootersHillGuru said:In all honesty I don't think any of the players coming in over the summer had a chance in hell of making a go of it. New country. New league, new life, new team mates and two inexperienced coaches and Fraye. A fan base at war with the club.
What an absolute fucking shambles. Wherever they end up it will be a damned sight better place to play football than The Valley. I wish all of them well.
Having said that, Makienok has rarely shown the attributes you'd expect from a target man striker, the instinctive movement to find space just isn't there and that's something which can't be taught
I think a lot of his problems were due to the fact that he was either partnered with Watt, who likes to drop deep and take up similar positions then drive at the defense. By all accounts they never looked comfortable together. Then RVT who didn't seem to do much. Then lastly Callum who like Watt wants to pick the ball up deeper and run at defenses.
Given Mak isn't going to stretch defenses with his pace and Callum/Watt don't like to run in behind off the ball, it seemed to leave him looking like an awkward passenger. I definitely think he would thrive on wingers/attacking fullbacks getting to the byline and getting crosses in but we haven't really had that this season with maybe the ocassional exception of Motta (who doesn't seem to get to the byline much) and cameos from Bergdich/Yun.
He reminds me a bit of Edin Dzeko at Man City, who either looked brilliant or incredibly awkward.2 -
Yes. Remember in 6 out of the 7? Games we have won this season he has played and been very good. If he could have done that regularly things could have been different. I don't put all the blame for his inconsistency on him the players around him didn't help and some of the systems we have played haven't suited him.SDAddick said:
When you look at the Rotherham game, that was exactly what he did. Igor was there to push the defensive line to drop off because of his pace, and Makienok dropped deep or pulled out wide to pick the ball up in space and bring others into play. Obviously one sparrow does not make a spring, but I still think there's something there.killerandflash said:
To be fair if I employed an agent, I'd expect him to speak bullshit on my behalf!ForeverAddickted said:Jesus this is why I hate Agents... They dont half speak bullshit on behalf of their Clients!!
It's hard when so many arrive at the same time, it's not like having 9 experience pros and 2 newcomers who can be covered, while they get used to British footballShootersHillGuru said:In all honesty I don't think any of the players coming in over the summer had a chance in hell of making a go of it. New country. New league, new life, new team mates and two inexperienced coaches and Fraye. A fan base at war with the club.
What an absolute fucking shambles. Wherever they end up it will be a damned sight better place to play football than The Valley. I wish all of them well.
Having said that, Makienok has rarely shown the attributes you'd expect from a target man striker, the instinctive movement to find space just isn't there and that's something which can't be taught
I think a lot of his problems were due to the fact that he was either partnered with Watt, who likes to drop deep and take up similar positions then drive at the defense. By all accounts they never looked comfortable together. Then RVT who didn't seem to do much. Then lastly Callum who like Watt wants to pick the ball up deeper and run at defenses.
Given Mak isn't going to stretch defenses with his pace and Callum/Watt don't like to run in behind off the ball, it seemed to leave him looking like an awkward passenger. I definitely think he would thrive on wingers/attacking fullbacks getting to the byline and getting crosses in but we haven't really had that this season with maybe the ocassional exception of Motta (who doesn't seem to get to the byline much) and cameos from Bergdich/Yun.
He reminds me a bit of Edin Dzeko at Man City, who either looked brilliant or incredibly awkward.2 -
Obviously as a giant, he gets well marked at corners, but when you compare him at Andy Carroll, you see you need power and movement as wel.
A few of Jackson's goals have come from corners as he manages to find space, Texeira has scored twice for us with headers, so it can be done.
I think, I'd rather have Tucudean up front that Makienok...2 -
'Makienok has been an okay success if you measure goals per minute'.
Jesus, that's the bloke trying to market him! If the person who stands to gain the most from shilling you can only muster that much enthusiasm I imagine we'll be seeing Simon working in Crossbars next season.5 -
The thing with Big Mak is we have seen what he can do playing with the right players and tactics. Being dropped one week and then stuck in the next can't be good for confidence. And it's not just him who has had a shit season. No one can hold their heads up high after this total car crash of a season and the booing of one of our own players has been downright disgusting and one of the most shameful aspects from some of our so called fans.13
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There is definitely potential. He scored some good goals, albeit not many in total, and showed he has a decent touch as well as being a big lump and had some good games to go with the very poor ones.
His confidence looks fragile though and he needs to learn to be a bit more aggressive attacking balls in the box and also learn the knack of being physical without giving away fouls.
Needs a run of games in a team more setup to his strengths. Not saying build a team around him as such, but just utilise him more effectively.
Came to us looking to rebuild his career, but as it has turned out, with all the off field stuff, the Valley has been a very tough place to try and do that this season.
For the right price and wages I'd take him into League 1 with us. I think he could do real damage down there, but at the same time I don't trust the current setup to get the best out of him so I'd probably advise him to move on. Seems a genuine lad though so I wish him well.7 -
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He's never a player that was going to come in here and create opportunities through his close control or first touch. The guy is a weapon but only when the delivery into him is right. Take the Hull game; Johann cross right onto his head, goal. Kashi long ball up field right onto his head, knock down assist.2
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It wasn't a bad post until you got to that bit. ;-)killerandflash said:Obviously as a giant, he gets well marked at corners, but when you compare him at Andy Carroll, you see you need power and movement as wel.
A few of Jackson's goals have come from corners as he manages to find space, Texeira has scored twice for us with headers, so it can be done.
I think, I'd rather have Tucudean up front that Makienok...1 -
Makienok can be ok if played with a decent striker, with decent wingers, and a creative midfield. He was never going to be good enough on his own in the Championship and was cruelly exposed when leading the line on his own. He also rarely gambled or was able to anticipate dangerous crosses. He is not really championship level but he would probably score a couple of goals in League One.
Makienok is off to play infront of smaller crowds in a different country. I can't work myself up to be bothered even if though that it is likely that given that Duchatelet has consistently underestimated what is needed , the type of player he is going to force onto Charlton could be far worse than Makienok.0 -
I reeeaallly wanted Simon Makienok to work out here.
I love strikers who are dominant in the air and we've been lacking one since Yann (<3). I like his personality, and how he seemed to embrace playing for Charlton. Plus, he's 6 foot 7 and looks a bit like Thor.
Unfortunately, he's just not got it. He's not mobile enough, doesn't make enough of his size and tends to go missing when you need him to make an impact. He's next to no threat in the opposition box because he's always on his heels and never on the move.
Sorry Simon, it's just not worked out here - good luck in the future.
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I fear we will be replacing Big Mak with more players of the Lookman, Harriott, Reza stature. The L1 defences are going to make mincemeat of us.2
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Give me Lookman over Makienok any day . The game against Ipswich showed that Makienok is hopeless against rugged defenders L1 style defencesEveshamAddick said:I fear we will be replacing Big Mak with more players of the Lookman, Harriott, Reza stature. The L1 defences are going to make mincemeat of us.
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He's not good but the amount of abuse he gets sent to him on Twitter is horrific. Who has the time/desire to send shit to players personally on Twitter?
If he's the worst player you've ever seen then you have a short memory.6 -
I'm gonna miss him...1
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That night at Colchester - one of the worst, most lacklustre performances ever.
Topped only by Naby Sarr, the same evening.0 -
Seems like a genuinely nice guy albeit a bit of a drama queen. But he's not very good. It's in there but his confidence is so fragile that he couldn't be relied on. Like almost everyone associated with this horrible season I can't wait to see the back of him although, unlike several, I genuinely wish him well.6
