World Cup 2018 Qualification
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Joe Gomez MOM from Glen Hoddle on ITV0
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That's fine and you sre perfectrly entitled to your view.PaddyP17 said:
Only if Gomez/Nick Pope/erm, Jonjo Shelvey etc make the frame. I'd rather support a JBG-fronted Iceland.Chippycafc said:Oh well... The other home countries will have to shout for us, like they always do.
I'm a Londoner first and foremost, then immensely proud of my non-English heritage. I suppose 23 years of being asked "but where are you REALLY from?" takes its toll.0 -
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Well done to the Danes.3
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I was still nervous, when we were 3-1 up.flyingkiwiDK said:
Just so relieved and happy now. Been very very nervous about this game.
Denmark didn't really deserve to be at the World Cup in 2010.
This time however, we've got a team with some great great individuals.
Would have been horrible, if we didn't make it this time.
Eriksen is unreal.
Pisto with a bit of confidence...dangerous!2 -
Eriksen was brilliant tonight. No surprise. Finally putting goals to his all round game. Yet another player improved immeasurably under Pochettino.Danepak said:
I was still nervous, when we were 3-1 up.flyingkiwiDK said:
Just so relieved and happy now. Been very very nervous about this game.
Denmark didn't really deserve to be at the World Cup in 2010.
This time however, we've got a team with some great great individuals.
Would have been horrible, if we didn't make it this time.
Eriksen is unreal.
Pisto with a bit of confidence...dangerous!0 -
Eriksen has improved a lot under Aage Hareide.JohnBoyUK said:
Eriksen was brilliant tonight. No surprise. Finally putting goals to his all round game. Yet another player improved immeasurably under Pochettino.Danepak said:
I was still nervous, when we were 3-1 up.flyingkiwiDK said:
Just so relieved and happy now. Been very very nervous about this game.
Denmark didn't really deserve to be at the World Cup in 2010.
This time however, we've got a team with some great great individuals.
Would have been horrible, if we didn't make it this time.
Eriksen is unreal.
Pisto with a bit of confidence...dangerous!
Whilst we knew he was good for Spurs, he's never really performed for Denmark under Morten Olsen.
Not the case anymore, after my favourite Norwegian took over.
(By the way, Aage isn't pronounced 'Aah-Geeh', like the British commentators tend to pronounce it. More like 'Oh').0 -
Ireland v Denmark was a very strange game, Ireland could have been 3-0 up and then even re-taken the lead at 1-1 but missed crucial chances and paid the price.
The sad thing is that as average as Ireland are that England are only marginally better and will very likely be getting knocked out at the group stages in Russia.
If you go back over the last three World Cups we've only beaten Slovenia (1-0), Paraguay (1-0), Trinidad & Tobago (2-0) and Ecuador (1-0), you have to go back to the brilliant 1-0 win against the Argies in 2002 for our last World Cup win against a decent side.
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Nice one...PaddyP17 said:
I suppose 23 years of being asked "but where are you REALLY from?" takes its toll.Chippycafc said:Oh well... The other home countries will have to shout for us, like they always do.
Or being asked "what's the accent?" You obligingly answer, but when you turn the question around you receive a: "I don't have one..." accompanied by a nervous smile0 -
Pot 1
Russia
Germany
Brazil
Portugal
Argentina
Belgium
Poland
France
Pot 2
Spain
Switzerland
England
Colombia
Mexico
Uruguay
Croatia
Peru / Denmark
Pot 3
Iceland
Costa Rica
Sweden
Tunisia
Egypt
Senegal
Iran
Denmark / Serbia
Pot 4
Nigeria
Japan
Morocco
Panama
South Korea
Saudi Arabia
Australia / Honduras
Serbia / New Zealand
England can draw up to one team per confederation (including UEFA) in their group. We obviously cannot be paired with any other team in Pot 2 so we won't be playing Spain, Colombia, Croatia... in the group stages.
For example if we draw France from Pot 1, we can't also draw Iceland from Pot 3 and if we draw Tunisia from Pot 3, we can't also draw Morocco from Pot 4 etc.0 - Sponsored links:
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Any idea when the draw takes place?Callumcafc said:Pot 1
Russia
Germany
Brazil
Portugal
Argentina
Belgium
Poland
France
Pot 2
Spain
Switzerland
England
Colombia
Mexico
Uruguay
Croatia
Peru / Denmark
Pot 3
Iceland
Costa Rica
Sweden
Tunisia
Egypt
Senegal
Iran
Denmark / Serbia
Pot 4
Nigeria
Japan
Morocco
Panama
South Korea
Saudi Arabia
Australia / Honduras
Serbia / New Zealand
England can draw up to one team per confederation (including UEFA) in their group. We obviously cannot be paired with any other team in Pot 2 so we won't be playing Spain, Colombia, Croatia... in the group stages.
For example if we draw France from Pot 1, we can't also draw Iceland from Pot 3 and if we draw Tunisia from Pot 3, we can't also draw Morocco from Pot 4 etc.0 -
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Easiest possible group for England by FIFA rankings: Russia, Iran, New Zealand0
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How do you manage to be so positive and cheerful all the time Ormy?Ormiston Addick said:Ireland v Denmark was a very strange game, Ireland could have been 3-0 up and then even re-taken the lead at 1-1 but missed crucial chances and paid the price.
The sad thing is that as average as Ireland are that England are only marginally better and will very likely be getting knocked out at the group stages in Russia.
If you go back over the last three World Cups we've only beaten Slovenia (1-0), Paraguay (1-0), Trinidad & Tobago (2-0) and Ecuador (1-0), you have to go back to the brilliant 1-0 win against the Argies in 2002 for our last World Cup win against a decent side.
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England are much better than Ireland and the home nations, as reflected by how many times we've qualified in the last 20 years for World Cups and Euros when compared to themOrmiston Addick said:Ireland v Denmark was a very strange game, Ireland could have been 3-0 up and then even re-taken the lead at 1-1 but missed crucial chances and paid the price.
The sad thing is that as average as Ireland are that England are only marginally better and will very likely be getting knocked out at the group stages in Russia.
If you go back over the last three World Cups we've only beaten Slovenia (1-0), Paraguay (1-0), Trinidad & Tobago (2-0) and Ecuador (1-0), you have to go back to the brilliant 1-0 win against the Argies in 2002 for our last World Cup win against a decent side.
We're not at the level where we can beat the top teams, but in general will get through to the knockout stages. 2014 and 2016 were dreadful, but not reflections of where we should have got to.1 -
Aussies one up with 20 minutes to go.1
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2-0 now.iaitch said:Aussies one up with 20 minutes to go.
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10 mins left.Hastingsaddick said:
2-0 now.iaitch said:Aussies one up with 20 minutes to go.
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Well done Australia.
Would love to see New Zealand at the World Cup again but don't mind too much if Peru qualify either as another uncommon name of recent tournaments.2 -
I disagree that we are only 'marginally' better. Whilst we underachieve in tournaments, we are still much stronger than Ireland. If Ireland played their reserve sides out against Germany and Brazil they wouldn't be holding them to draws like we were able to.Ormiston Addick said:
The sad thing is that as average as Ireland are that England are only marginally better and will very likely be getting knocked out at the group stages in Russia.
England have always had a relatively strong team, but unfortunately they also always underachieve.1 - Sponsored links:
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Anyone know if dasilva and konsa played in the u20 defeat to Germany last night and if they did ,did they come through unscathed?0
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I agree we are better than Ireland but I do not agree that we always 'underachieve'.cafctom said:
I disagree that we are only 'marginally' better. Whilst we underachieve in tournaments, we are still much stronger than Ireland. If Ireland played their reserve sides out against Germany and Brazil they wouldn't be holding them to draws like we were able to.Ormiston Addick said:
The sad thing is that as average as Ireland are that England are only marginally better and will very likely be getting knocked out at the group stages in Russia.
England have always had a relatively strong team, but unfortunately they also always underachieve.
I can't recall us ever really 'underachieving'.
Even in the supposed golden generation we didn't really underachieve as if you looked at the other national teams we were never going to win the WC anyway. While we had a few good players other countries had some unbelievably good players.0 -
Other than Argentina, who have England beat that had a higher FIFA ranking in competition?dizzee said:
I agree we are better than Ireland but I do not agree that we always 'underachieve'.cafctom said:
I disagree that we are only 'marginally' better. Whilst we underachieve in tournaments, we are still much stronger than Ireland. If Ireland played their reserve sides out against Germany and Brazil they wouldn't be holding them to draws like we were able to.Ormiston Addick said:
The sad thing is that as average as Ireland are that England are only marginally better and will very likely be getting knocked out at the group stages in Russia.
England have always had a relatively strong team, but unfortunately they also always underachieve.
I can't recall us ever really 'underachieving'.
Even in the supposed golden generation we didn't really underachieve as if you looked at the other national teams we were never going to win the WC anyway. While we had a few good players other countries had some unbelievably good players.0 -
Yeah both played the 90minsIanaddick62 said:Anyone know if dasilva and konsa played in the u20 defeat to Germany last night and if they did ,did they come through unscathed?
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Crazy that Spain are in pot two behind some of those teams1
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The facts simply don't bear this out - recent tournaments demonstrate that we are getting worse every two years.cafctom said:
I disagree that we are only 'marginally' better. Whilst we underachieve in tournaments, we are still much stronger than Ireland. If Ireland played their reserve sides out against Germany and Brazil they wouldn't be holding them to draws like we were able to.Ormiston Addick said:
The sad thing is that as average as Ireland are that England are only marginally better and will very likely be getting knocked out at the group stages in Russia.
England have always had a relatively strong team, but unfortunately they also always underachieve.
World Cup 2010 we gained a single win against tiny Slovenia, World Cup 2014 we gained a single point against the might of Costa Rica, Euro 2016 we gained a single win against the mighty Welsh in the last minute and then got destroyed by Iceland in ignominious fashion.
After all, if we don't judge England by how they perform in major tournaments then how else are we to judge them?
We hit our last peak in 2002-2006 with the 'golden generation' and were definitely in the top eight countries in the world with the likes of Neville, Ferdinand, Campbell, Cole, Beckham, Scholes, Owen, Lampard and Gerrard - but the last 10 years we have been getting steadily worse.
If you want to know the answer to that then just look at how many English qualified players are playing regular Champions League football - outside the Spurs boys there are simply not enough.0 -
England may have stumbled upon their most effective tactic to go into the World Cup in the last two games. Nil nils in the knockout stage force a penalty shootout which IMO is our best chance of beating a Germany or a Brazil. Yes it may be less exciting when there's less goals but you can't be beat if you don't concede.0
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Peru 2-0 New Zealand FT
Peru into their first World Cup since 1982.1 -
Sooooo
Pot 1
Russia
Germany
Brazil
Portugal
Argentina
Belgium
Poland
France
Pot 2
Spain
Peru
Switzerland
England
Colombia
Mexico
Uruguay
Croatia
Pot 3
Denmark
Iceland
Costa Rica
Sweden
Tunisia
Egypt
Senegal
Iran
Pot 4
Serbia
Nigeria
Australia
Japan
Morocco
Panama
South Korea
Saudi Arabia
Best group for England by ranking: Russia, Senegal, Saudi Arabia (we couldn't draw Iran from Pot 3 if another AFC nation is already in the group so the next lowest ranked team is Senegal).
Worst group for England by ranking: Germany, Costa Rica, Nigeria (we would not be able to draw a third UEFA nation into our group so we can discount Iceland and Denmark.
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All Whites robbed for a penalty in the 1st minute.
Peru robbed for a penalty later in the 1st half (clear handball from Winston Reid).
Apart from that, Peru were just a much better team and it didn't help the All Whites, that Chris Wood didn't play the full 90 mins.0
