Like many many fans I disagree with the way Katrien is doing her job just as much as every other fan. What is wrong is some of the abuse I have seen directed towards her like s**t, w***e and s**g. That is when it's going beyond the boundries. It's just as bad as racism. There is no excuse for it no matter how mad you are with her. Nobody is saying like her or agree with she is doing. There is being critical of someone (which is fine) and there is being downright insulting. These are two separate things altogther. She may well not be telling the truth but it is still absolutely no excuse whatsoever. No matter bad at how she is at her job she doesn't deserve to have those sexit terms labelled at her in any shape or form.
Like many many fans I disagree with the way Katrien is doing her job just as much as every other fan. What is wrong is some of the abuse I have seen directed towards her like s**t, w***e and s**g. That is when it's going beyond the boundries. It's just as bad as racism. There is no excuse for it no matter how mad you are with her. Nobody is saying like her or agree with she is doing. There is being critical of someone (which is fine) and there is being downright insulting. These are two separate things altogther. She may well not be telling the truth but it is still absolutely no excuse whatsoever. No matter bad at how she is at her job she doesn't deserve to have those sexit terms labelled at her in any shape or form.
What is w***e ?
It sounds just like what the Sunderland fans chant 'awah, awah, awah the lads'
Given that premise I can categorically state that I would never say anything about Katrien that I wouldn't say about a bearded, smiling, slightly overweight man with a geordie accent whom also displayed incompetence in his capacity as CEO of my beloved football club.
Conversely if I WOULD say something about him then I would say the equivalent about her.
A senior professional position carries both bouquets and brickbats. if she wants to be treated as a proper professional then playing the "tearful little girl" card when the going gets tough really doesn't cut it to use the modern vernacular.
I speak as the father of three daughters all of whom have or had responsible professional jobs.
I would normally support the call for no abuse. However, Katrien has shown a total disrespect for people that have given their heart and soul to this club, that I find myself ambivalent to this call.
Do not allow her to be a victim. Abuse is not necessary. KM is not succeeding as a CEO of a Championship club. She has alienated supporters, mislead supporters, appointed inadequate managers, embarrassed the club by pathetic gimmicks. That's enough to tell her. Message- go from the club.
Do not allow her to be a victim. Abuse is not necessary. KM is not succeeding as a CEO of a Championship club. She has alienated supporters, mislead supporters, appointed inadequate managers, embarrassed the club by pathetic gimmicks. That's enough to tell her. Message- go from the club.
Not sticking up for the words used by the way, but I can see why people use them here's a 200 word piece defending their use
There's a difference between defending the use, and accepting the use. It's part parcel of football and all that comes with it. I don't use them, but there's a reason as to why people do, wrongfully yes but it hapens.
Some people want reason to be offended in this modern life, I'm certainly not going to get offended by words used towards her, she's a grown lady, she's a lawyer, she can deal with it appropriately herself, if she can't then she needs a new job.
Not sticking up for the words used by the way, but I can see why people use them here's a 200 word piece defending their use
There's a difference between defending the use, and accepting the use. It's part parcel of football and all that comes with it. I don't use them, but there's a reason as to why people do, wrongfully yes but it hapens.
Some people want reason to be offended in this modern life, I'm certainly not going to get offended by words used towards her, she's a grown lady, she's a lawyer, she can deal with it appropriately herself, if she can't then she needs a new job.
Or she needs to do the job properly. On second thoughts as one of the more mature supporters she's got no time for, let's go with your suggestion
Like many many fans I disagree with the way Katrien is doing her job just as much as every other fan. What is wrong is some of the abuse I have seen directed towards her like s**t, w***e and s**g. That is when it's going beyond the boundries. It's just as bad as racism. There is no excuse for it no matter how mad you are with her. Nobody is saying like her or agree with she is doing. There is being critical of someone (which is fine) and there is being downright insulting. These are two separate things altogther. She may well not be telling the truth but it is still absolutely no excuse whatsoever. No matter bad at how she is at her job she doesn't deserve to have those sexit terms labelled at her in any shape or form.
What is w***e ?
Bill Shakespeare inni't mate........ as in...... “[I] must, like a whore, unpack my heart with words.”
Very common in SE7 conversation in the late 60's for us 'A' level students.....
So best keep away from Larkin, Chaucer, and for god sake do not mention Byron.........had us sniggering like idiots.
I would normally support the call for no abuse. However, Katrien has shown a total disrespect for people that have given their heart and soul to this club, that I find myself ambivalent to this call.
Agree totally with this.
I find it unbelievable, given what this wretched woman is doing to the club I love, that there are still many who seem to think if we see her walking down to the ground we should merely content ourselves with saying " Afternoon Katriene. How are you?"
Our lord and master, with his refusal to attend matches, is clearly hiding behind her coat tail. Therefore she really shouldn't be at all surprised if she gets a volley of abuse sometime. And should this happen I too would be totally ambivalent to it happening.
She needs to be made aware of the feeling every time she walk to down flood road at 1.30.
This can be done without insulting or aggressive.
THIS, we should be protesting against her all along her walk into the stadium, of course without it turning aggressive, insulting, sexist or xenophobic but we should be making it as uncomfortable for her as possible to come into work. I want her to resign so badly as do many others, I don't care if she's replaced by another incompetent drone because we can just do the same to them, this would be a great signal to Roland that we are not happy!
She needs to be made aware of the feeling every time she walk to down flood road at 1.30.
This can be done without insulting or aggressive.
THIS, we should be protesting against her all along her walk into the stadium, of course without it turning aggressive, insulting, sexist or xenophobic but we should be making it as uncomfortable for her as possible to come into work. I want her to resign so badly as do many others, I don't care if she's replaced by another incompetent drone because we can just do the same to them, this would be a great signal to Roland that we are not happy!
I believe Katrien is a brazen and unapologetic equivocator who will flip flop with events saying white is black one minute, and black is white the next. I believe Katrien is encouraged and fuelled in her equivocation by Roland as changes and results and moments happen and clash with each other. To unashamedly state that all the managerial appoints have actually been a success, which she said right to my face whilst looking directly at me (without throwing up to boot) is a perfect example of a flip flop duplicitous brain at work. It is a situation of 'my country (Roland) right or wrong' even if she thinks it is wrong it is right. Orwellian doublethink, I also think Katrien believes she is somehow in command of events when actually she is being 'played' by Roland as much as the rest of us.
she doesn't want older fans, she hasn't got a clue how to run a football club,she could destroy the club my late father and uncles followed and I have followed for almost 50 years. She treats us with total and utter contempt but we have to worry what we call her !!!!! FFS get a life I couldn't give a rat shit what people call her I hope she fucks off and if naughty words help that's all good
It would be better if we could belittle her with a bit more class than basic sexist abuse. Having said that, I am amazed she's not getting far more direct and personal abuse. Her incompetence is killing our football club. Yes you silly Meire, OUR football club.
It would be better if we could belittle her with a bit more class than basic sexist abuse. Having said that, I am amazed she's not getting far more direct and personal abuse. Her incompetence is killing our football club. Yes you silly Meire, OUR football club.
Constant Chants of "Meire Out" at the next home game.
It would be better if we could belittle her with a bit more class than basic sexist abuse. Having said that, I am amazed she's not getting far more direct and personal abuse. Her incompetence is killing our football club. Yes you silly Meire, OUR football club.
Constant Chants of "Meire Out" at the next home game.
without sounding like a bunch of cats is going to be difficult.
Today of all days, we should remember what happened in WW1, we should call a Christmas truce. Perhaps arrange a football match on the west stand front, however our 2% will outnumber her team and supporters. The way she has run our club, I don't think she would get a full team out.
Today of all days, we should remember what happened in WW1, we should call a Christmas truce. Perhaps arrange a football match on the west stand front, however our 2% will outnumber her team and supporters. The way she has run our club, I don't think she would get a full team out.
Tomorrow we go again.
More pot holes in the West Stand car park than no man's land !
Call me old fashioned but I am against personal abuse per se as I would hate to receive it. HOWEVER, she has insulted me and fellow CAFC fans more than she can ever understand: saying it is not 'our club' and basically laughing at the thought! So we can be insulting to her without using abusive terms as well, she has shown that it is ok.
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Given that premise I can categorically state that I would never say anything about Katrien that I wouldn't say about a bearded, smiling, slightly overweight man with a geordie accent whom also displayed incompetence in his capacity as CEO of my beloved football club.
Conversely if I WOULD say something about him then I would say the equivalent about her.
A senior professional position carries both bouquets and brickbats. if she wants to be treated as a proper professional then playing the "tearful little girl" card when the going gets tough really doesn't cut it to use the modern vernacular.
I speak as the father of three daughters all of whom have or had responsible professional jobs.
I think that Meire should not leave herself exposed to the public travelling by train, sooner or later she will no doubt get a volley.
Then of course she will play the victim, she will not get any sympathy from me.
Some people want reason to be offended in this modern life, I'm certainly not going to get offended by words used towards her, she's a grown lady, she's a lawyer, she can deal with it appropriately herself, if she can't then she needs a new job.
as in...... “[I] must, like a whore, unpack my heart with words.”
Very common in SE7 conversation in the late 60's for us 'A' level students.....
So best keep away from Larkin, Chaucer, and for god sake do not mention Byron.........had us sniggering like idiots.
I find it unbelievable, given what this wretched woman is doing to the club I love, that there are still many who seem to think if we see her walking down to the ground we should merely content ourselves with saying " Afternoon Katriene. How are you?"
Our lord and master, with his refusal to attend matches, is clearly hiding behind her coat tail. Therefore she really shouldn't be at all surprised if she gets a volley of abuse sometime. And should this happen I too would be totally ambivalent to it happening.
This can be done without insulting or aggressive.
She is fucking hopeless at her job, and that's all I need or want to pass comment on.
A disgrace, in fact.
The fans who defend her - although admittedly this number is dwindling by the day - are the reason she continues to take the piss out of us.
I believe Katrien is encouraged and fuelled in her equivocation by Roland as changes and results and moments happen and clash with each other. To unashamedly state that all the managerial appoints have actually been a success, which she said right to my face whilst looking directly at me (without throwing up to boot) is a perfect example of a flip flop duplicitous brain at work.
It is a situation of 'my country (Roland) right or wrong' even if she thinks it is wrong it is right. Orwellian doublethink, I also think Katrien believes she is somehow in command of events when actually she is being 'played' by Roland as much as the rest of us.
Hope that's toned down the abuse I gave her on another thread.
The story over Luzons appointment was far fetched at best. Interviewing others, I question it.
Tomorrow we go again.
So we can be insulting to her without using abusive terms as well, she has shown that it is ok.