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Fraeye on the brink - SLP Match Report and Fraeye Reaction

LouisMend
LouisMend Posts: 5,446
in General Charlton
Manager quotes here - KF accepts responsibility - http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk/article.cfm?id=115401&headline=Karel Fraeye on the brink after Charlton Athletic's woeful winless run continues&sectionIs=sport&searchyear=2016

Match report here - http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk/article.cfm?id=115402&headline=Where and when is this Charlton slide going to end? Colchester defeat can't be seen as an upset&sectionIs=sport&searchyear=2016
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  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,421
    Do one
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    iamdan said:

    Do one

    Not a very nice thing to say to Louis.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Sorry but why now... I don't like the constant sacking of Managers but what's the point, we've just wasted 13-games in the season (thats over a quarter of matches).

    Fraeye should either have had five / six games whilst we got in a new man OR he should have been given the Managerial job after then... We sack him after Huddersfield maybe but what happens then, we get in Euell whilst we piss around looking for someone else meaning that no doubt another 10 / 13 games will pass us by or have we already got the new man already lined up (If this is the case then why only now are we hiring him?)
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Sorry but why now... I don't like the constant sacking of Managers but what's the point, we've just wasted 13-games in the season (thats over a quarter of matches).

    Fraeye should either have had five / six games whilst we got in a new man OR he should have been given the Managerial job after then... We sack him after Huddersfield maybe but what happens then, we get in Euell whilst we piss around looking for someone else meaning that no doubt another 10 / 13 games will pass us by or have we already got the new man already lined up (If this is the case then why only now are we hiring him?)

    Sad but true

  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    edited January 2016
    Fraeye is edging closer to the winless run overseen by Bob Peeters before he was sacked

    His record is now almost identical to Luzon's this season before he was sacked.

    What does it take for the lunacy to stop and for Fraeye to be sacked?

    Agreed with the above only I wouldn't have had Fraeye in for the five / six games I would have given that to Jason Euell and see how he did from there.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    edited January 2016
    You're all nuts, I'd never have had Carol in at all...we'd have had more points without any form of manager or head coach. What a waste of money that was Roly you mug
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    wmcf123 said:

    MartinCAFC said:

    Fraeye is edging closer to the winless run overseen by Bob Peeters before he was sacked

    His record is now almost identical to Luzon's this season before he was sacked.

    What does it take for the lunacy to stop and for Fraeye to be sacked?

    Agreed with the above only I wouldn't have had Fraeye in for the five / six games I would have given that to Jason Euell and see how he did from there.

    I see nothing to suggest that Euell would make a good manager. Let's have a proven coach, with managerial pedigree, please
    I was saying that in past tense that Euell should really have been appointed as the Interim when Fraeye was and see how he did.

    At this point I want a proper established credible manager.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited January 2016
    Ha ha ha, 'One step forwards and two steps back'! We've been in reverse gear for the vast majority or your tenure. As cfgs says above, do one.
  • Anna_Kissed
    Anna_Kissed Posts: 3,302
    I'm possibly swimming against the tide in writing this...but....I feel a bit sorry for him. Things clearly aren't working out as he'd wish them to. So, you say, the manager carries the can. Yes. But he's carrying Duchatelet's can, as the other managers did. Part of the equation, of course, is that you can have talent all around you and things don't work out. There's plenty of examples I need not list. So, I'm a bit sorry for Karel, in the same way I was sorry for Guy and Bob. And I was the most sorry for Chris, because he was....us. And remains so.
    There are two options left to us. Accept the status quo, and continue in attendance. Or oppose, big time. Don't look to 'leaders'. Follow your passion.
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  • Daggs
    Daggs Posts: 1,344
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Sorry but why now... I don't like the constant sacking of Managers but what's the point, we've just wasted 13-games in the season (thats over a quarter of matches).

    Fraeye should either have had five / six games whilst we got in a new man OR he should have been given the Managerial job after then... We sack him after Huddersfield maybe but what happens then, we get in Euell whilst we piss around looking for someone else meaning that no doubt another 10 / 13 games will pass us by or have we already got the new man already lined up (If this is the case then why only now are we hiring him?)

    New manager? simples.. Kat will do her customary twenty interviews in one afternoon, Jose Riga gets the job.
    You want a new manager from outside the network? forget it.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited January 2016
    Anna_Kissed said:

    I'm possibly swimming against the tide in writing this...but....I feel a bit sorry for him. Things clearly aren't working out as he'd wish them to. So, you say, the manager carries the can. Yes. But he's carrying Duchatelet's can, as the other managers did. Part of the equation, of course, is that you can have talent all around you and things don't work out. There's plenty of examples I need not list. So, I'm a bit sorry for Karel, in the same way I was sorry for Guy and Bob. And I was the most sorry for Chris, because he was....us. And remains so.
    There are two options left to us. Accept the status quo, and continue in attendance. Or oppose, big time. Don't look to 'leaders'. Follow your passion.

    Don't feel sorry for him mate, if he had an ounce of decency and self respect he would resign and there we have it.
  • Godstone
    Godstone Posts: 700
    What was the point of getting rid of Guy? Would he have done worse?
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    He accessed the cockpit down the laundry chute from the kit van. Genius.
  • charltonaddickedmatt
    charltonaddickedmatt Posts: 1,257
    What I am more worried about, if we lose to HTFC what happends then if KF is still somehow in charge? we have to do something. He cant last another loss
  • tom_k
    tom_k Posts: 1,207
    Why on earth do we have so many injuries, what is happening at training?
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,014
    If he's been quoted correctly, he seems to have a strange concept of time - in KF world, we got in Poyet, then lost Diarra and we got in Johnson then we lost Bauer. I would suggest that we got Poyet and Johnson in because we had lost Diarra and Bauer.
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,193
    We pick up players on the cheap. And they are cheap for a reason. Some of them are apparently made of glass.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited January 2016
    EveshamAddick said:

    If he's been quoted correctly, he seems to have a strange concept of time - in KF world, we got in Poyet, then lost Diarra and we got in Johnson then we lost Bauer. I would suggest that we got Poyet and Johnson in because we had lost Diarra and Bauer.

    He's lost it mate, just like I have at the moment. I do hope matron gives me a tablet and sends me up to bed in a minute :wink: .
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    Who in their right mind would want to work under Pinnochio and 2 sheds? I really fear for our future.
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    edited January 2016
    JiMMy 85 said:

    We pick up players on the cheap. And they are cheap for a reason. Some of them are apparently made of glass.

    An old saying amongst managers is 'make sure when your player's legs go, it's on another manager's pitch.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Anna_Kissed said:

    I'm possibly swimming against the tide in writing this...but....I feel a bit sorry for him. Things clearly aren't working out as he'd wish them to. So, you say, the manager carries the can. Yes. But he's carrying Duchatelet's can, as the other managers did. Part of the equation, of course, is that you can have talent all around you and things don't work out. There's plenty of examples I need not list. So, I'm a bit sorry for Karel, in the same way I was sorry for Guy and Bob. And I was the most sorry for Chris, because he was....us. And remains so.
    There are two options left to us. Accept the status quo, and continue in attendance. Or oppose, big time. Don't look to 'leaders'. Follow your passion.

    I felt sorry for him initially, clearly he shouldn't have been put in the job in the first place. But it's quite clear that he is way out of his depth. More so than any manager we have ever had, and to be honest , and I'm almost embarrassed to say it, I'd rather have Iain Dowie in charge (and I hated that man with a passion). He doesn't help himself with the crap that he comes out with either. If he had an ounce of decency he would walk away. While Roly owns football clubs, that man will always have a job. It's not as if he would be walking in to unemployment is it?

    One thing a manager needs is respect, how can anybody on the playing side respect him?

    It's quite clear to everybody barring 2 people that he is a complete and utter clueless clown. I honestly believe that the only reason he is still in charge is because those 2 people know that it's pissing people off.

  • JorgeCosta
    JorgeCosta Posts: 1,035
    The picture of him in the SLP makes him look like the puppet he is.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    I reckon he must have some dirt on Rolly or else he's his love child.
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,107
    And we're probably no nearer getting a manager than we were 13 matches ago. 'Kin shambles.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    edited January 2016
    JorgeCosta said:

    The picture of him in the SLP makes him look like the puppet he is.

    That's a classic puppet picture and will sum up Fraeye's time at the club when, he eventually goes. He will go. It's just a matter of time.
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,734
    Oakster said:

    Anna_Kissed said:

    I'm possibly swimming against the tide in writing this...but....I feel a bit sorry for him. Things clearly aren't working out as he'd wish them to. So, you say, the manager carries the can. Yes. But he's carrying Duchatelet's can, as the other managers did. Part of the equation, of course, is that you can have talent all around you and things don't work out. There's plenty of examples I need not list. So, I'm a bit sorry for Karel, in the same way I was sorry for Guy and Bob. And I was the most sorry for Chris, because he was....us. And remains so.
    There are two options left to us. Accept the status quo, and continue in attendance. Or oppose, big time. Don't look to 'leaders'. Follow your passion.

    He had the arrogance too claim 'the bell is ringing for me" in December 2014 while Peeters was struggling - as if a rank, amateur 3rd division bell end was the answer to our problems - he has been embroiled in this mess since the start of this horrible regime. No sympathy whatsoever.
    Yep, he's been sniding after this job for ages. No sympathy whatsoever, his ambition exceeds his ability by a vast margin. (A bit like the CEO). He deserves every bit of grief he is getting and more
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,968
    No sympathy. He's stealing a living.

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