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Igor Vetokele
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I wonder if he will ever come good. I'm not sure if I've ever seen him play but interested to know people's views on whether he's a top player who is suffering from injuries and loss of form, or whether that was a lucky purple patch when he first joined and he is an ordinary player. Players get these freak goalscoring phases, I remember Jacko having one in 2010/2011. I do hope this isnt whats happening with Lyle or Karlan.1
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His injuries will probably prevent him getting a run of games but on form he's a higher class striker than Grant (who is doing well) and could blend well with Taylor.
His speed off the last man is impressive but his one on one finishing hasn't been reliable. He scores first time finishes from close range if the ball can be supplied. He also scores headers, through good movement and a decent leap.
Sadly, I can't see him ever being fit enough to start regularly. We're almost in November and he's hardly featured. Hope I'm wrong.6 -
I can't see him returning to form. Just waiting for contract to expire.5
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When he joined he reminded me so much of Darren Bent, his pace, movement and eye for goal was outstanding.
Really hope for him he'll get fully fit again one day and get back to that sort of form.
Doubt he will though.3 -
Reminds me of Darren Bent still... Just watch how he is now a yard behind the game, a little overweight and always happy... Just like our Darren is now.RedArmySE7 said:When he joined he reminded me so much of Darren Bent, his pace, movement and eye for goal was outstanding.
Really hope for him he'll get fully fit again one day and get back to that sort of form.
Doubt he will though.7 -
Only way he is going to get into the side is via an injury to someone else. From what I've seen so far I'm praying that doesn't happen.1
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I would say he should be on the bench ahead of Ajose, but Ajose vs Stevenage was better than Igor for me, he worked his balls off and was a true team player... Think Ajose deserves at least a sub appearance.addick05 said:Only way he is going to get into the side is via an injury to someone else. From what I've seen so far I'm praying that doesn't happen.
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Agree about Ajose's work rate. However, he was bought to score goals (as was Igor) and quite simply, neither have delivered whichever system we play - and yes, I realise neither have been given an extended run in the team - but while Grant and Taylor are scoring regularly they wont be.Dazzler21 said:
I would say he should be on the bench ahead of Ajose, but Ajose vs Stevenage was better than Igor for me, he worked his balls off and was a true team player... Think Ajose deserves at least a sub appearance.addick05 said:Only way he is going to get into the side is via an injury to someone else. From what I've seen so far I'm praying that doesn't happen.
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If Igor was the same player we had when he joined, he would be scoring every week.6
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For somebody else though.MuttleyCAFC said:If Igor was the same player we had when he joined, he would be scoring every week.
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Arguably it'd be for us in the Championship still. We may well have not been relegated if we had a reliable goal scorer.ricky_otto said:
For somebody else though.MuttleyCAFC said:If Igor was the same player we had when he joined, he would be scoring every week.
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He might be scoring every week now if he actually bloody played. Scored 2 against Stevenage the other week when he started a match. Admitedly he didnt do a lot agsinst Luton but then again that was his first start of the season & had been out injured before then. Give him a run of 4 or 5 games like Grant had at the start of the season & I'm sure he'll score.MuttleyCAFC said:If Igor was the same player we had when he joined, he would be scoring every week.
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But why drop one of the two strikers who are already scoring regularly on the chance he'd do the same?golfaddick said:
He might be scoring every week now if he actually bloody played. Scored 2 against Stevenage the other week when he started a match. Admitedly he didnt do a lot agsinst Luton but then again that was his first start of the season & had been out injured before then. Give him a run of 4 or 5 games like Grant had at the start of the season & I'm sure he'll score.MuttleyCAFC said:If Igor was the same player we had when he joined, he would be scoring every week.
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Taylor and Grant have 15 goals from 14 matches whereas the rest of our squad have just 6 between them and one or the other has scored in all bar 3 of those 14 games. When was the last time we had a partnership that did that?thenewbie said:
But why drop one of the two strikers who are already scoring regularly on the chance he'd do the same?golfaddick said:
He might be scoring every week now if he actually bloody played. Scored 2 against Stevenage the other week when he started a match. Admitedly he didnt do a lot agsinst Luton but then again that was his first start of the season & had been out injured before then. Give him a run of 4 or 5 games like Grant had at the start of the season & I'm sure he'll score.MuttleyCAFC said:If Igor was the same player we had when he joined, he would be scoring every week.
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I didn't suggest dropping anyone I merely pointed out that Vetokele can't score if he's sitting on the bench & when he did play in a game he scored. Can't blame him too much for his performance against Luton as it was his first start of the season & before then had very minimal appearances after an injury.thenewbie said:
But why drop one of the two strikers who are already scoring regularly on the chance he'd do the same?golfaddick said:
He might be scoring every week now if he actually bloody played. Scored 2 against Stevenage the other week when he started a match. Admitedly he didnt do a lot agsinst Luton but then again that was his first start of the season & had been out injured before then. Give him a run of 4 or 5 games like Grant had at the start of the season & I'm sure he'll score.MuttleyCAFC said:If Igor was the same player we had when he joined, he would be scoring every week.
IF one of the front 2 were out for a month or two & IF Vetokele then had a run of games then we could all comment further.1 -
True, but you are highlighting an area that does look a bit broke at the moment.Addick Addict said:
Taylor and Grant have 15 goals from 14 matches whereas the rest of our squad have just 6 between them and one or the other has scored in all bar 3 of those 14 games. When was the last time we had a partnership that did that?thenewbie said:
But why drop one of the two strikers who are already scoring regularly on the chance he'd do the same?golfaddick said:
He might be scoring every week now if he actually bloody played. Scored 2 against Stevenage the other week when he started a match. Admitedly he didnt do a lot agsinst Luton but then again that was his first start of the season & had been out injured before then. Give him a run of 4 or 5 games like Grant had at the start of the season & I'm sure he'll score.MuttleyCAFC said:If Igor was the same player we had when he joined, he would be scoring every week.
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Yeah but its broken amongst the rest of the squad rather than Taylor and GrantMuttleyCAFC said:
True, but you are highlighting an area that does look a bit broke at the moment.Addick Addict said:
Taylor and Grant have 15 goals from 14 matches whereas the rest of our squad have just 6 between them and one or the other has scored in all bar 3 of those 14 games. When was the last time we had a partnership that did that?thenewbie said:
But why drop one of the two strikers who are already scoring regularly on the chance he'd do the same?golfaddick said:
He might be scoring every week now if he actually bloody played. Scored 2 against Stevenage the other week when he started a match. Admitedly he didnt do a lot agsinst Luton but then again that was his first start of the season & had been out injured before then. Give him a run of 4 or 5 games like Grant had at the start of the season & I'm sure he'll score.MuttleyCAFC said:If Igor was the same player we had when he joined, he would be scoring every week.
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I think Grant suffers more at home when it is difficult to get behind defenders. It is worth considering options in those circumstances. He is clearly an asset in other situations.1
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Igor was a top-half Championship forward who thrived on balls across the box from wide areas. He got an injury, we rushed him back, played him when injured and ruined him.7
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That's what it looks like until there is any real evidence to the contrary!The Red Robin said:Igor was a top-half Championship forward who thrived on balls across the box from wide areas. He got an injury, we rushed him back, played him when injured and ruined him.
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True, but getting behind defenders is a big part of Igor's game too, so I am not entirely sure he would be the solution to that particular issue.MuttleyCAFC said:I think Grant suffers more at home when it is difficult to get behind defenders. It is worth considering options in those circumstances. He is clearly an asset in other situations.
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I know - and that is assuming he is still up to it. I thought Bowyer needed to bring Sarr on when Oxford scored on Tuesday, and not as a defender, which sums up or attacking options when you scratch the surface.0
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Controversial I know - but I simply don’t think he is that good.
So he had 6-7 really good games when he joined. He looked like he was absolutely busting a gut in each in order to provide those performances. Could have just been a case of new club and going above and beyond to impress.
A lot of excuses have been made for him over the past 3 years or so now. I just don’t think he’s very good.1 -
play him in the cup with a strongish side behind him and hope he scores - so we can offload him, unlikely though, he'll probably go on a free as no one will match his wages
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Would be interesting to see us play a true 4-3-3.
Reeves Cullen Aribo across the middle, Taylor Grant Vetokele up top.1 -
Taylor picks up bookings. Won’t be too long before he’s suspended. Igor comes in and has to make himself undropable. Can’t see him ousting either Grant or Taylor any other way. Doubt we’ll get to see the Igor that first signed for us again.0
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Maybe just maybe, he isn't as good as we all thought he was. One good month 3 years ago in the Championship seems to be good enough for most to think he is a top champ level striker. His past injury and the brutal nature of league 1 mean imo we have a striker who isn't ever going to be any good for us0
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Think if we set up 4-3-3 against some of the lesser sides he could get his minutes. Lyle and Karlan either side of him, midfield of Bielik, Cullen, Pratley and a solid back 4 of Dijksteel, Bauer, Pearce and Solly.Addick Addict said:
Taylor and Grant have 15 goals from 14 matches whereas the rest of our squad have just 6 between them and one or the other has scored in all bar 3 of those 14 games. When was the last time we had a partnership that did that?thenewbie said:
But why drop one of the two strikers who are already scoring regularly on the chance he'd do the same?golfaddick said:
He might be scoring every week now if he actually bloody played. Scored 2 against Stevenage the other week when he started a match. Admitedly he didnt do a lot agsinst Luton but then again that was his first start of the season & had been out injured before then. Give him a run of 4 or 5 games like Grant had at the start of the season & I'm sure he'll score.MuttleyCAFC said:If Igor was the same player we had when he joined, he would be scoring every week.
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That'd in 2-3 weeks time, until then replace either Karlan or Lyle on 60-70 minutes if they're not doing it and he'll have at least 20 minutes to get his competitive reactions back, and use him in with the unders if he doesn't get a game.
Ajose could be treated similarly imo.0 -
Unlike the last couple of seasons the two strikers are both doing well dispite Taylor missing sitters. Since Holmes left only Aribo, occasionally JFC when he was fit have looked like scoring from midfield. Reeves comes close but even Clarke never looked like scoring before his injury.MuttleyCAFC said:
True, but you are highlighting an area that does look a bit broke at the moment.Addick Addict said:
Taylor and Grant have 15 goals from 14 matches whereas the rest of our squad have just 6 between them and one or the other has scored in all bar 3 of those 14 games. When was the last time we had a partnership that did that?thenewbie said:
But why drop one of the two strikers who are already scoring regularly on the chance he'd do the same?golfaddick said:
He might be scoring every week now if he actually bloody played. Scored 2 against Stevenage the other week when he started a match. Admitedly he didnt do a lot agsinst Luton but then again that was his first start of the season & had been out injured before then. Give him a run of 4 or 5 games like Grant had at the start of the season & I'm sure he'll score.MuttleyCAFC said:If Igor was the same player we had when he joined, he would be scoring every week.
If it ain't broke..............
Both Grant and Taylor are scoring. Igor and Ajosie need to score from the bench when coming on to join the party.0
