Paul Konchesky

CaptainRobbo · October 1

paulsturgess said:

cafctom said:

Was a big Konchesky fan as a kid.

Turned out to be quite a goal threat for us, even though he preferred himself as a left back.

Scored great goals against Chelsea, West Ham and Liverpool.

Everton away.

But also Skyed a pen away at West Ham.

Was at that game on Boxing Day and to be fair to him he had only just broken into the team.
IIRC we were 4-0 down at the time and when we got the pen, the senior pros looked away and Konch got handed the ball by someone and told to get on with it.

Fortune 82nd Minute · October 1

killerandflash said:

To be fair Pardew had a successful managerial career. 859 games, and 2 FA Cup finals. His time with us was his biggest failure.

Never be fair when it comes to Pardew.

Dave2l · October 1

killerandflash said:

To be fair Pardew had a successful managerial career. 859 games, and 2 FA Cup finals. His time with us was his biggest failure.

Pardew really thought he was the man.

If he won an FA cup with either palace and or west ham, he would have walked into St georges training ground the following morning unnounced, saying "so when do I start then" while having a giggle with John Terry about last nights shenanigans in an essex celeb culture nightclub.

Didn't he also headbutt one of his opponents players while managing newcastle?

paulsturgess · October 1

CaptainRobbo said:

paulsturgess said:

cafctom said:

Was a big Konchesky fan as a kid.

Turned out to be quite a goal threat for us, even though he preferred himself as a left back.

Scored great goals against Chelsea, West Ham and Liverpool.

Everton away.

But also Skyed a pen away at West Ham.

Was at that game on Boxing Day and to be fair to him he had only just broken into the team.
IIRC we were 4-0 down at the time and when we got the pen, the senior pros looked away and Konch got handed the ball by someone and told to get on with it.

I don't know what you're remembering, but the peno he missed was on a hot summer-ish day in a 2-0 loss, don't believe we had a pen against them in the boxing day 0-5 you're referring to

ElfsborgAddick · October 1

Dave2l said:

killerandflash said:

To be fair Pardew had a successful managerial career. 859 games, and 2 FA Cup finals. His time with us was his biggest failure.

Pardew really thought he was the man.

If he won an FA cup with either palace and or west ham, he would have walked into St georges training ground the following morning unnounced, saying "so when do I start then" while having a giggle with John Terry about last nights shenanigans in an essex celeb culture nightclub.

Didn't he also headbutt one of his opponents players while managing newcastle?

Against Hull.

Am surprised his hooter did not get in the way.

CaptainRobbo · October 1

paulsturgess said:

CaptainRobbo said:

paulsturgess said:

cafctom said:

Was a big Konchesky fan as a kid.

Turned out to be quite a goal threat for us, even though he preferred himself as a left back.

Scored great goals against Chelsea, West Ham and Liverpool.

Everton away.

But also Skyed a pen away at West Ham.

Was at that game on Boxing Day and to be fair to him he had only just broken into the team.
IIRC we were 4-0 down at the time and when we got the pen, the senior pros looked away and Konch got handed the ball by someone and told to get on with it.

I don't know what you're remembering, but the peno he missed was on a hot summer-ish day in a 2-0 loss, don't believe we had a pen against them in the boxing day 0-5 you're referring to

May be getting my games mixed up then 👍
I do remember it being the coldest I've ever been when watching a match.

IR94 · October 1

Doesn't seem too warm about us, the way he described us when getting a England call-up and not playing for example, we were a top side then with top players (especially in his position), interesting comments about Danny Mills as well, The fact is the most games he played in his career was for us, and launched his career.

CaptainRobbo · October 1

I'm sure that Liverpool fans have fond memories of him.

Dave2l · October 1

CaptainRobbo said:

I'm sure that Liverpool fans have fond memories of him.

The poor bloke probably had to listen to carragher barking like a scouse dog and spitting everywhere at half time.

Probably had a headache every day in training.

HandG · October 1

He said his time at Charlton was the part of his career he enjoyed the most and I didn’t hear him say a bad way about us. Can someone please point me to something I’ve missed?

He said we were a small club compared to Man Utd, Liverpool etc when he talked about his England call up. Is that not fair enough?

He gave it a bit to us at Upton Park when West Ham scored against us in our relegation season but who gives a shit? Fair play to the guy, a Charlton youth product who had an amazing career including playing for England. He was at the Play off final supporting the Addicks…..

Ormiston_Addick · October 2

killerandflash said:

To be fair Pardew had a successful managerial career. 859 games, and 2 FA Cup finals. His time with us was his biggest failure.

He had a poisoned chalice with us, if he'd come in a month earlier he would have kept us up, but we were too far adrift and couldn't get back.

Moreover, remember that Dowie spunked all our dough on absolute shite in the summer, meaning we had no money to strengthen in January.

We did OK in the first season back in the Championship until we were forced to sell Andy Reid in the window.

After beating Palace 2-0 at The Valley on February 8th - putting us 5th in the league - we only won three of our last fifteen games and the die was cast.

mascot88 · October 2

Not a fan.

CaptainRobbo · October 2

mascot88 said:

Not a fan.

I imagine Pardew has quite a few mirrors in his house

oohaahmortimer · October 2

Ormiston_Addick said:

After beating Palace 2-0 at The Valley on February 8th - putting us 5th in the league - we only won three of our last fifteen games and the die was cast.

The good old days when we kept appearing 5th and anyone who dared say our performances were shit and we had no chance of going up would be shot down with we’re still 5th …. Think we finished 12th

wmcf123 · October 2

ForeverAddickted said:

wmcf123 said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

Dave2l said:

https://youtu.be/ToIZXZHFcZk?si=KEN0A_LliMI1duny

Good interview to be fair.

Being a professional footballer does sound like an enjoyable life.

Edit: He talks about Charlton

He'd have played 400 games for us if Powell was not at Charlton.

Never rated him defensively . Better in midfield . Curbs was right

We could easily have seen a Premier League version of Jackson / Wiggins between Konchesky and Powell, two players both comfortable in Defence / Attack and could easily have covered each other.

We did see that quite a bit . Powell was an excellent defender. Bar that brilliant spell at Fulham under Hodgson, I don’t believe Konchesky was .

Diebythesword · October 2

killerandflash said:

To be fair Pardew had a successful managerial career. 859 games, and 2 FA Cup finals. His time with us was his biggest failure.

Mike Ashley completely resurrected his career, allegedly to help settle gambling debts pardew had with Ashley’s “mates”.

Dave2l · October 2

Sparrows Lane must have quite a lot of unheard of stories.

" yeh Andy Todd casually decided to punch deano in the face while deano was trying to organise the defence in training, but Andy is a nice bloke"

Garrymanilow · October 2

Ormiston_Addick said:

killerandflash said:

To be fair Pardew had a successful managerial career. 859 games, and 2 FA Cup finals. His time with us was his biggest failure.

He had a poisoned chalice with us, if he'd come in a month earlier he would have kept us up, but we were too far adrift and couldn't get back.

Moreover, remember that Dowie spunked all our dough on absolute shite in the summer, meaning we had no money to strengthen in January.

We did OK in the first season back in the Championship until we were forced to sell Andy Reid in the window.

After beating Palace 2-0 at The Valley on February 8th - putting us 5th in the league - we only won three of our last fifteen games and the die was cast.

I think that gives him a bit too much credit. He had enough time to keep us up, he just couldn't keep things going for long enough after a very brief spell of being decent. He had a tough start playing three top 4 teams but once we got that big result against West Ham we should have kicked on comfortably to safety. We won 3 in 4 and then just...stopped. Reading, Boro and especially Sheffield United at home should have been wins and City and Blackburn away at that stage in their season is the kind of game a team fighting not to go down needs to scrap out a win. We didn't win any of our last 7 games, we drew the kinds of games we should have been winning and got battered by teams where we needed to fight for an upset. We were only 4 points adrift of a pretty poor Wigan side in the end, he just couldn't galvanise a team with Alex Song, Andy Reid, Darren Bent, Luke Young and Scott Carson in it

ElfsborgAddick · October 2

Dave2l said:

Sparrows Lane must have quite a lot of unheard of stories.

" yeh Andy Todd casually decided to punch deano in the face while deano was trying to organise the defence in training, but Andy is a nice bloke"

Yes, I have to admit I think Konchesky played it down what actually happened.

At a supporters meeting with Richard Murray he said that Kiely told him if you don't sell Todd I'm leaving.

Dave2l · October 2

The keeper is supposed to be the voice of the 18 yard box.

Todd simply didn't like getting told what to do. Disgraceful unprofessional behaviour.

SporadicAddick · October 2

Just watched. I like the f-bomb, but not quite as much as Konchesky.

brownbear · October 2

I thought he came across as a complete plank. His description of his England experience was painful to listen to, and the phrase 'I just wanted to play', was repeated ad nauseum.

Ormiston_Addick · October 4

Garrymanilow said:

Ormiston_Addick said:

killerandflash said:

To be fair Pardew had a successful managerial career. 859 games, and 2 FA Cup finals. His time with us was his biggest failure.

He had a poisoned chalice with us, if he'd come in a month earlier he would have kept us up, but we were too far adrift and couldn't get back.

Moreover, remember that Dowie spunked all our dough on absolute shite in the summer, meaning we had no money to strengthen in January.

We did OK in the first season back in the Championship until we were forced to sell Andy Reid in the window.

After beating Palace 2-0 at The Valley on February 8th - putting us 5th in the league - we only won three of our last fifteen games and the die was cast.

I think that gives him a bit too much credit. He had enough time to keep us up, he just couldn't keep things going for long enough after a very brief spell of being decent. He had a tough start playing three top 4 teams but once we got that big result against West Ham we should have kicked on comfortably to safety. We won 3 in 4 and then just...stopped. Reading, Boro and especially Sheffield United at home should have been wins and City and Blackburn away at that stage in their season is the kind of game a team fighting not to go down needs to scrap out a win. We didn't win any of our last 7 games, we drew the kinds of games we should have been winning and got battered by teams where we needed to fight for an upset. We were only 4 points adrift of a pretty poor Wigan side in the end, he just couldn't galvanise a team with Alex Song, Andy Reid, Darren Bent, Luke Young and Scott Carson in it

Understand your position, but you also have to remember that not only were we skint in the transfer market, but we also lost Bent for six games in January and February, he was our only source of goals that season.

Bottom line is that by the time he came in we had 12 points after 19 games, that was a shocking platform to build from.

Pardew got us 22 points from 19 games which would have kept us up over a full season.

NomadicAddick · October 4

Ormiston_Addick said:

Carter said:

Ormiston_Addick said:

His comments about Curbishley were very naive, he was pissed off because the club wouldn't sell him and Scott Parker to Sunderland!

Christ on a bike, why would we sell our best young players to a rival club unless the money was too good to refuse?

Both players were England internationals, as if the club is going to just hand them over to Sunderland on a plate!

I thought his description of Parker's behaviour to force a move was disgraceful, what a shocking way to behave and you have no doubt that Parker would go radio rental if one of HIS players did that.

If you listen to a few episodes of that podcast you will find players in the main have an amazingly naive approach to being a professional footballer.

I think a lot of managers have a lot to answer for as well, they don't fancy a player, they are under pressure to get them out. Jon Parkins attitude was to get his contract paid up or be disruptive as possible in training. He was capable of scoring some absolute bangers as he did against us but he was in horrible condition as an athlete and had no intention of doing anything other than what he wanted. Professionals seem to lose any love they had for a childhood team as well once they are in the machine. I get it, its a short career but I labour under the false hope good players and managers give a bit more of a shit about the emotional investment made by fans.

Even though they are long retired I think it's a bad look for players to talk about how they behaved in these situations, it doesn't reflect well on them at all, and I would include Parkin in that.

He's a decent bloke on there and a good laugh, but his behaviour in forcing a move was shonky.

The same goes for Ben Foster openly talking about his wages on his Fozcast podcast, there is no need for it, we know you were on great money when you were in the Premier League, there is no need to give us the details!

Totally disagree. We as football fans should appreciate the honesty. These guys are not
messi and ronaldo, and so what if they’re sharing how they acted in what is essentially another life.

Many, many situations that are described by ex pros, even if as a fan of the club in question, you can totally understand why they did what they did. I find it all refreshingly honest.

I would also say most of the best stories come from those that were not media trained. Can’t imagine the likes of Foden and Jude sharing the same level of stories the generation before them do.

NomadicAddick · October 4

Anyone else find watching him feels like a time gone by? He mentioned being a ‘West Ham boy’ and it was ‘his club’… feels like those sort of players just don’t exist anymore. Not to romanise West Ham too much but he’s West Ham through and through, as much as Curbs was and Bobby
Moore before them. Those people just don’t seem to exist anymore and it’s kind of sad.

SporadicAddick · October 4

NomadicAddick said:

Anyone else find watching him feels like a time gone by? He mentioned being a ‘West Ham boy’ and it was ‘his club’… feels like those sort of players just don’t exist anymore. Not to romanise West Ham too much but he’s West Ham through and through, as much as Curbs was and Bobby
Moore before them. Those people just don’t seem to exist anymore and it’s kind of sad.

Of course they exist. Fans become footballers.

I’d imagine if they ever had Rob Elliot on, he would possibly talk about Charlton being ‘my club”.

Charlton and on · October 4

NomadicAddick said:

Anyone else find watching him feels like a time gone by? He mentioned being a ‘West Ham boy’ and it was ‘his club’… feels like those sort of players just don’t exist anymore. Not to romanise West Ham too much but he’s West Ham through and through, as much as Curbs was and Bobby
Moore before them. Those people just don’t seem to exist anymore and it’s kind of sad.

Closer to home, Godden celebrated the Wembley win on Instagram with the caption "my club" and spoke in his press conference after the semis about how amazing it was for him that the fans were singing his name.

rememberbillybonds · October 4

It’s because West Ham took the money. Gone to a soulless ground to become “ Taxpayers United”.
the sign at the ground says “ London” they thought they could become London club from around the world. I bet most would rather be at Upton Park.

wmcf123 · October 4

It’s not a good podcast. The guests nod along and laugh uncontrollably at any old rubbish that the guests come out with.

cafcfan · October 4

To my knowledge, Paul has been the only player so far to have featured twice in the Club 1905 pre-match Q&A sessions: so he is clearly happy to be invited back. (I assume these things are all organised through the ex-players association run by Steve Brown and Kevin Lisbie.) He speaks highly of the club and clearly has a great affection for us. In my opinion, anyone suggesting otherwise is well wide of the mark.

Paul Konchesky

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