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    WARNING. THESE ARE NOT TIPS. I ALWAYS LOSE AT CHELTENHAM, so I thought I'd go for some E/W outsiders.

    1.30 Mister Miyagi E/W 40-1
    2.10 The Game Changer E/W 14/1
    2.50 Spring Heeled E/W 28/1
    3.30 Annie Power WIN 5/2
    4.10 Vroom Vroom Mag WIN 11/10
    4.50 Definitely Red E/W 16/1
    5.30 Thomas Brown E/W 16/1
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    1.30 Supasundae 14/1
    2.10 Vaniteux 7/1
    2.50 The Young Master 16/1
    3.30 The New One 6/1
    4.10 Bitofapuzzle 16/1
    4.50 Noble Endeavor 7/1
    5.30 Twelve Roses 33/1

    Ive honestly selected the same ones in bold above.

    Unlucky pal.
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    2.50 Fox Appeal E/W 50/1 (5 places)
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    Mckinley, Cheltenham 17:30,

    Definitly Red, Cheltenham 16:50,

    Vroum Vroum Mag, Cheltenham 16:10,

    Annie Power, Cheltenham 15:30,

    Out Sam, Cheltenham 14:50,

    Douvan, Cheltenham 14:10,

    Altior, Cheltenham 13:30,
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    Altior
    Douvan
    Carole's Destrier
    Annie Power
    Vroum Vroum
    Southfield Royale
    Bouvreil

    Pissing bet365 only accepting min 10p stake on e/w super heinz

    Had to go with sky bet
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    What do people think of Holly Bush Henry in the 1.30? I know nothing on horses and a mate tipped me but at 66/1 I assume it doesn't stand a chance.
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    No Lily Waugh backers yet?! Was with the owners and trainer today and its certainly not without a decent chance
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    smiffyboy said:

    1:30 Min
    2:10 Douvan
    2:50 Out Sam
    3:30 Annie Power
    4:10 Vroum Vroum Mag
    4:50 Noble Endeavor
    5:30 Alaamomo

    Win Win Win

    2:50 Kruzhlinin ew
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    1.30 Supasundae 14/1
    2.10 Vaniteux 7/1
    2.50 The Young Master 16/1
    3.30 The New One 6/1
    4.10 Bitofapuzzle 16/1
    4.50 Noble Endeavor 7/1
    5.30 Twelve Roses 33/1

    Ive honestly selected the same ones in bold above.

    Unlucky pal.
    As if that wasn't bad enough Pricewise in the Racing Post has gone for Supasundae and The Young Master too. The last time Tom Segal had a winner at Cheltenham the King was doing the presentations!
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    Suprised Kruzhlinin hasn't been mentioned in the 2.50. Looked good in its last run out at Kempton. I'll be backing that for sure EW
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    1:30 charbel
    2:10 sizing John
    2:40 kruzhlinin
    3:30 lil Rockefeller
    4:10 gitane du berlais
    4:50 pleasant company
    5:30 five in a row
    Ew patent and ew lucky15
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    Most over hyped tipster Pricewise and is showing a loss for the past two years but keeps on getting hyped with no stats provided from the Racing Post only a mention of a winner when it happens.Was given the stats at a Cheltenham preview evening and amazed how bad they are.
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    2.50 Fox Appeal E/W 50/1 (5 places)

    Starts wide left, drifts inside a lot and struggles to get forward. When he does he just can't seem to get past the first horse.
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    CAFCsayer said:

    2.50 Fox Appeal E/W 50/1 (5 places)

    Starts wide left, drifts inside a lot and struggles to get forward. When he does he just can't seem to get past the first horse.
    Oh schucks, I'd better stick to scratchcards. :wink:
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    edited March 2016
    I've got a feeling Min is going to let a lot of people down. Altior has that devastating turn of pace and has answered many more questions than Min.

    I'm on Altior but will cover with Min forcast

    Edit: Henderson has a 100% strike rate when riding for the owner.
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    min drifting watched the morning line bookies saying there are going to take it on, as scared of the 4 fold landing.
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    Most over hyped tipster Pricewise and is showing a loss for the past two years but keeps on getting hyped with no stats provided from the Racing Post only a mention of a winner when it happens.Was given the stats at a Cheltenham preview evening and amazed how bad they are.

    Pricewise was the original concept of a guy called Mark Cotton (he also wrote a couple of well received books including one called Value Betting). We are going back almost 30 years and by his own admission a lot of the recommendations were based on a particular bookmaker being out of line with the rest e.g. Ladbrokes going particularly short on an Irish horse. It was a cheap way of buying inside information that only the few (bookmakers in particular) were privy to.

    With the advent of Betfair there has, of course, been a complete turnaround where bookies no longer need moles in the top stables because the market offers a major clue to a particular horse's chances.

    Equally, whereas at one time, Segal et al were feared due to his influence, his lack of success, particularly over jumps means that they aren't quite so keen to halve a recommendations.

    Going back to Cotton, I spoke to him a decade ago and asked him how the punting was going. He said that he only had the odd fun bet as all value had gone and was a university lecturer - and the subject of his lectures had nothing to do with punting!
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    1.30 Min 5/2
    2.50 Out Sam 8/1
    3.30 Identity Thief 7/1
    4.50 Shantou Flyer 33/1
    5.30 Aloomomo 6/1
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    Good piece Addick addict have met Cotton myself and read his books too
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    1:30 Altior
    2:10 The Game Changer e/w
    2:40 Kruzhlinin e/w
    3:30 Camping Ground e/w
    4:10 Desert Queen e/w
    4:50 Ballychorus e/w
    5:30 Twelve Roses e/w
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    edited March 2016

    Big_Bob said:

    is Vatour entered into the RyanAir or Gold Cup? When do the declarations have to be made by?

    Entered in both- But Ricci has said there's no chance of him going Ryanair, it'll be GC or stay at home
    I thought i read after he said that, Ruby Walsh was going to hold a meeting with him to try twist his arm.
    Vautour goes in the Ryanair instead of the Gold Cup!
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    1:30 Charbel
    2:10 Dounvan
    2:40 Out Sam
    3:30 The New One
    4:10 Vroum Vroum Mag
    4:50 Pont Alexandre
    5:30 Fourth Act
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    1:30 Tombstone Each Way backed at 16/1 Ante Post
    2:10 Vaniteux Each Way 10/1 AP
    2:40 Spring Heeled Each Way 20/1 & Theatre Guide 14/1 Each Way
    3:30 My Tent or Yours Each Way 20/1 AP
    4:10 Vroum Vroum Mag Win Evens
    4:50 Pont Alexandre Win 9/1
    5:30 Aloomomo Win 11/2

    Oh and Thane of Cawdor first race at Kempton tomorrow night Each Way!!!
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    edited March 2016
    1.30 Buveur D'Air
    2.10 no bet no value opposing the fav
    2.50 beg to differ
    3.30 Sempre Medici
    4.10 Tara Point
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    2.50 - adding Audacious Plan E/W to my interest in Fox Appeal, also 50/1 (5 places, naturally).

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    Not the least bit confident and trying to find some value:-

    1:30. Supasundae ew
    2:10 The Game Changer ew
    2:50 Un Temps pour Tout ew
    3:30 My Tent or Yours ew
    4:10 Polly Peachum
    4:50 Native River
    5:30 Double Shuffle
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    1.30 Altior
    2.50 Out Sam
    3.30 Identity Thief and Sempre Medici ew
    4.10 Vroum Vroum Mag
    4.50 Noble Endeavor and Waldorf Salad ew
    5.30 Aloomomo
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    I've got a feeling Min is going to let a lot of people down. Altior has that devastating turn of pace and has answered many more questions than Min.

    I'm on Altior but will cover with Min forcast

    Edit: Henderson has a 100% strike rate when riding for the owner.

    Faugheen was my anti post coupon buster, hoping Min don't blow the next lot.
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    1.30 Altior
    3.30 Sempre Medici
    4.10 Polly Peachum
    5.30 Double Shuffle
    E/W lucky 15
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    1.30 Altoir
    3.30 Nichols Canyon
    4.10 Polly Peachum and Lily Waugh
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