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  • mendonca said:

    Froch and Bellow nearly ruined the. Slagging off a boxer for 8 rounds only for him to have won, would have been a serious omelette on the face!

    This fucks me off, they were watching a different fight. Jim Watt often used to however th standard of commentary is awful now. I like having people like Sly donon the shows but they desperately need a professional to hold the commentary together. Ian Darke is a master of the art.

  • Parker looked a bit too relaxed and happy, after this defeat.
  • If the ref did his job Parker would've won that fight.

    Let Whyte get away with too much, and practically stole the last round by there only being about 30 seconds of action. Whyte just held on for the last minute and the ref did nothing about it.
  • Watched both the Del Boy and Whyte fights back

    I thought Del was sensational and although he took so many heavy shots it was hard to be critical of the game plan , they obviously wanted to get into the second half after tiring takam out , he threw punches back at the right time to ensure the ref didn’t stop it as he could’ve from rd 1 onwards if he wanted and no one could’ve moaned

    Total opposite with Whyte really disappointing that after the Joshua , Chisora, Browne fights he resorted to that

    I thought his weight was due to being lazier than he should in camp and although it was a relatively short camp I thought he could’ve done a lot better on his weight, but then you realise it was all part of the plan , zero finesse all out spoiling and fighting dirty, the amount of low blows, punches to the back of the head and the wrestling style through the ropes shit really annoyed me

    Parker unfortunately for such a very nice human being is not really world class and will not be champ again

    I can see Tyson licking his lips as there’s a fight he can win easily with a name with little risk

    Whyte was there for taking from rd 9-10 in my opinion and if Parker had put it on him in rd 10 he wouldn’t have made rd 12

    Parker fought through the early and middle rds like a boxer with a head injury seemed dazed and concussed the clash of heads def had an impact on the result

    Nailed on to be Joshua vs Whyte in April now imo

    With a bit of either Del Boy vs Parker in oct-nov or Del Boy -Whyte
  • When is dubois coming into the picture? Only 8 fights so far... Is he going to go for the commonwealth or intercontinental/silver/whatever titles in the next few fights
  • I can’t see him being any where in the frame until atleast December next year and his path is going to have to be very carefully chosen

    The option is numerous Eastern European knock overs

    The British route is to be avoided apart from joe joyce who would be the easiest of opportunities for him early

    I think that he is without doubt the hottest prospect in the heavyweight division but he needs to be kept away from the tear ups that are in the top 8 fighters

    AJ
    Wilder
    Whyte
    Povotkin
    Miller
    Chisora
    Fury
    Parker

    Anyone below that is an option for him in the next 6 months
  • I lost a lot of respect for both fighters in that fight

    Dillion took British boxing back a step with the dirty shit

    And Parker didn’t come to fight until rd 10

    I think Parker thought it was a punch that caught him for the first knockdown and it screwed with his head

    But Ian John Lewis back to ref school

    The wrong side on blatant low blows continued to let Whyte rabbit punch and elbow

    Missed more than a ref should

    In the words of Ricky Hatton “it ain’t a tickling contest”
  • mendonca said:

    Froch and Bellow nearly ruined the. Slagging off a boxer for 8 rounds only for him to have nearly won by TKO in the final round, would have been a serious omelette on the face!

    Froch, great fighter but as a man a massive ding-a-ling.
  • buckshee said:

    I lost a lot of respect for both fighters in that fight

    Dillion took British boxing back a step with the dirty shit

    And Parker didn’t come to fight until rd 10

    I think Parker thought it was a punch that caught him for the first knockdown and it screwed with his head

    But Ian John Lewis back to ref school

    The wrong side on blatant low blows continued to let Whyte rabbit punch and elbow

    Missed more than a ref should

    In the words of Ricky Hatton “it ain’t a tickling contest”
    It’s not and I don’t expect it to be , I do expect a fighter like Whyte who even in the loss to AJ increased his appeal and in every fight since has shown more and more to not resort to the tactics he did last night

    If you want to be taken seriously as an opponent for wilder and Joshua you make it happen by doing what he done in the fights since the AJ loss

    By doing what he did last night he didn’t raise his stock in the danger levels for his boxing and improvements he raised his danger rating for one of them to lose the belts from rough house tactics

    Thinking about it seriously and changing my mind from the post above

    I think he gave him self more chance of fighting Miller than wilder and chisora than AJ with that performance

    When he could’ve really just fought and beaten Parker in the same way he fought chisora and Browne

    I always had him as slight fav in my opinion to ko Parker but that Whyte would always win

    It’s a shame for Whyte

  • buckshee said:

    I lost a lot of respect for both fighters in that fight

    Dillion took British boxing back a step with the dirty shit

    And Parker didn’t come to fight until rd 10

    I think Parker thought it was a punch that caught him for the first knockdown and it screwed with his head

    But Ian John Lewis back to ref school

    The wrong side on blatant low blows continued to let Whyte rabbit punch and elbow

    Missed more than a ref should

    In the words of Ricky Hatton “it ain’t a tickling contest”
    Of course - the objective is to render your opponent unconscious!

    But, there are rules and there is a standard of conduct, both of which should be respected by both fighters and enforced with points deductions or disqualification if they are not.

    Whyte crossed the line last night.
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  • That card delivered somehow... unbelievable.

    Whyte showed how much power he seriously carries imo. Joshua couldn't make a dent in Parker. Chisora with the hail Mary punch after being close to being stopped was amazing.

    I thought Whyte fought dirty and maybe should have warming but I think youbdo what you must to win. It's a good turn around of English people usually being moral winners only due to not bending rules but just my opinion.
  • bobmunro said:

    buckshee said:

    I lost a lot of respect for both fighters in that fight

    Dillion took British boxing back a step with the dirty shit

    And Parker didn’t come to fight until rd 10

    I think Parker thought it was a punch that caught him for the first knockdown and it screwed with his head

    But Ian John Lewis back to ref school

    The wrong side on blatant low blows continued to let Whyte rabbit punch and elbow

    Missed more than a ref should

    In the words of Ricky Hatton “it ain’t a tickling contest”
    Of course - the objective is to render your opponent unconscious!

    But, there are rules and there is a standard of conduct, both of which should be respected by both fighters and enforced with points deductions or disqualification if they are not.

    Whyte crossed the line last night.
    It’s very true he crossed that line and disappointingly it’s not being reported in the press

    Looks like Hearn and Higgins have another fight lined up in the future for parker with someone wouldn’t be surprised to hear that soon

    Speaks volumes about eddies influence now in the media as there is no criticism anywhere for Whyte to be seen

    However those who moaned about the 20 quid and I still agree on top of sky subscription it’s wrong

    That was a cracking way to spend a score 5 hours of pure boxing excitement last night


    Abs Buatsi will undoubtedly rule the world
  • edited July 2018
    Not sure Whyte fought dirty. He tired in the last two rounds and was desperate but part of Parker's defence was charging forward, head down with no attempt to throw a punch. That made it scrappy. Couldn't handle Dillon's power.
  • Not sure Whyte fought dirty. He tired in the last two rounds and was desperate but part of Parker's defence was charging forward, head down with no attempt to throw a punch. That made it scrappy. Couldn't handle Dillon's power.

    you cant mean that

    he tried to throw him out of the ring twice

    he landed atleast 6 or 7 deliberate punches to the rear of his head over 3 rds not including the ones you can give him the benefit of the doubt on

    he constantly landed low blows whenever IJL was the wrong side and that was most of the eve

    his forearm and elbow must be killing him today

    He had a clear intention and game plan of roughing Parker up and he way over stepped the mark it was appaling reffing in that fight that caused the issue as he never once was strong enough to deal with it

    I dont mind IJL as a ref i think he noramlly does a good job and at times i think he has saved fighters stopping fights when others would have let it flow , but in this instance he was as guilty as Dillion
  • Danepak said:

    Parker looked a bit too relaxed and happy, after this defeat.

    I think we've seen the best of Parker with Kevin Barry as Manager. That bloke annoys me. So much bullshit. Boxing's equivalent of Robinson.

    If you haven't got the class of Ali, Joshuua or Lennox Lewis you've got to have mongrel like Mike Tyson or Rocky Marciano with a mentor like Cus D'damato (having read Mike Tysons biography).

    Without a change of Manager I think you can take Parker out of the mix. Nice chap and all that, no mongrel and not enough class.
  • Deal for Fury vs Wilder nearly agreed according to Fury and Warren confirmed they were in negotiations for a fight to take place in December with wilder.

    I think it would be to early for Fury but who knows!
  • Can’t see it happening it’s all chess play right now
  • edited July 2018
    Would be astounded if this happens.

    Way too soon for Fury, his fitness is nowhere near enough and i think he needs at least 2 more fights after Pianeta. So i don't think he'll risk it.

    And whilst Wilder would be favourite, i can't see him risking a fight with any big names before his payday with Joshua. He'll continue to cherry pick.
  • Would be astounded if this happens.

    Way too soon for Fury, his fitness is nowhere near enough and i think he needs at least 2 more fights after Pianeta. So i don't think he'll risk it.

    And whilst Wilder would be favourite, i can't see him risking a fight with any big names before his payday with Joshua. He'll continue to cherry pick.

    Agree with all this
  • It won’t happen this is to make the AJ wilder fight in April

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  • edited July 2018
    Just watched Whyte Vs Parker. Expected a lot more from Parker really. I thought he looked decent against AJ, so was surprised at how poor he was on the night. Bellew's commentary was the most biased commentary I've ever heard!

  • This looks worth watching.

    Murder in Soho: Who Killed Freddie Mills?
    BBC FOUR 21:00 WED 1 AUG
    A real-life murder mystery about a national boxing hero, who is often described as Britain's first sporting celebrity.

    This is an intimate portrayal of a man who rose from the fairground boxing booth to become world light-heavyweight champion and later, a celebrity on television and in films.

    But it all ended on July 25th 1965, when he was found shot dead in the back seat of his car.



  • The Fury - Wilder talk seems legit. Fury released a video stating it's close for December. This is way to early for Fury imo. Cashing out???
  • bobmunro said:


    This looks worth watching.

    Murder in Soho: Who Killed Freddie Mills?
    BBC FOUR 21:00 WED 1 AUG
    A real-life murder mystery about a national boxing hero, who is often described as Britain's first sporting celebrity.

    This is an intimate portrayal of a man who rose from the fairground boxing booth to become world light-heavyweight champion and later, a celebrity on television and in films.

    But it all ended on July 25th 1965, when he was found shot dead in the back seat of his car.



    Good spot that mate just put it in the planner

  • Not convinced on Fury/Wilder talk

    Great hype for people to be talking about Fury just after a big heavyweight night on Sky and with his next fight coming up.

    I’ve seen Frank Warren do press conferences with posters for fights displayed behind him and the fight hasn’t actually been made, so I don’t trust him until the fighters are in the ring.

    IF it comes to anything it’s far too soon for Fury. And I think he knows that. He’s often said he wants 3/4 fights before getting back to world level.

    Fury is an intelligent guy when it comes to boxing, knows the sport inside out. I can’t see him jumping at a fight that will always been there for him. Different if this was his one shot but he’s in a position where he can fight the top guys when he’s ready. Not when they pick him.
  • I've had it on good authority from someone close to Ben Davison that Wilder v Fury is pretty much done for December. I'd be surprised as Fury is always active on social media when other heavies are getting the limelight and Because it could be a way of forcing an AJ/Wilder fight for April BUT Warren knows he's on borrowed time promoting Fury and could see this as a big opportunity. NLA have you heard anything?
  • I don’t believe it that’s all I am saying on the matter I certainly wouldn’t book flights or tickets
  • The Joseph Parker camp are investigating the possibility of appealing the points decision to Whyte on the grounds round 2 - when Parker was dropped by a head but - should not have gone 10-8 to Whyte on the scorecards, but instead would have gone 10-9 to Parker. That's their version anyway. Also, one of the judges gave round 1 to Whyte, surely Parker's best round - that's not the grounds for their appeal though.
  • The Joseph Parker camp are investigating the possibility of appealing the points decision to Whyte on the grounds round 2 - when Parker was dropped by a head but - should not have gone 10-8 to Whyte on the scorecards, but instead would have gone 10-9 to Parker. That's their version anyway. Also, one of the judges gave round 1 to Whyte, surely Parker's best round - that's not the grounds for their appeal though.

    Don't blame them, Whyte got away with everything on Saturday to the detriment of seeing a competitive fight. I don't think anyone expects a non contact event however how many fighters are going to come to Britain for a fight if they see such loose refereeing. They will come for a payday and lay down first chance they get which is not what o want to see
  • bobmunro said:


    This looks worth watching.

    Murder in Soho: Who Killed Freddie Mills?
    BBC FOUR 21:00 WED 1 AUG
    A real-life murder mystery about a national boxing hero, who is often described as Britain's first sporting celebrity.

    This is an intimate portrayal of a man who rose from the fairground boxing booth to become world light-heavyweight champion and later, a celebrity on television and in films.

    But it all ended on July 25th 1965, when he was found shot dead in the back seat of his car.



    Just watched this on iPlayer. Not a fan of modern boxing. To me it is all pantomime and posturing by classless and barely literate idiots. Wasn't aware of Freddie Mills. But this programme reminded me of what a truly great sport it use to be. It was Brutal, but the boxers always had total respect for each other before, during and after the fight. It was a fascinating program.
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