Here goes: Tammy Abraham - Bristol City, Nathan Ake - Bournemouth, Bekanty Victorien Angban - Granada, Christian Atsu - Newcastle, Baba Rahman - Schalke, Lewis Baker - Vitesse Arnhem, Patrick Bamford - Burnley, Nathan Baxter - Metropolitan Police (until January), Mitchell Beeney - Crawley (until January), Jamal Blackman - Wycombe (until January), Jeremie Boga - Granada, Isaiah Brown - Rotherham, Andreas Christensen - Borussia Monchengladbach, Jake Clarke-Salter - Bristol Rovers, Charlie Colkett - Bristol Rovers, Dion Conroy - Aldershot (until January), Juan Cuadrado - Juventus (three-year loan), Cristian Cuevas - Sint-Truidense, Alex Davey - Crawley (until January), Matej Delac - Royal Excel Mouscron, Islam Feruz - Royal Excel Mouscron, Michael Hector - Eintracht Frankfurt, Jordan Houghton - Doncaster (until January), Tomas Kalas - Fulham, Kenedy - Watford, Alex Kiwomya - Crewe (until January), Matt Miazga - Vitesse Arnhem, Charly Musonda - Real Betis, Nathan - Vitesse Arnhem, Kenneth Omeruo - Alanyaspor, Kasey Palmer - Huddersfield, Danilo Pantic - Excelsior, Mario Pasalic - AC Milan, Lucas Piazon - Fulham (until January), Loic Remy - Crystal Palace, Jhoao Rodriguez - Independiente Sante Fe, Bertrand Traore - Ajax, Wallace - Gremio.
Chelsea have 38 players out on loan at the moment. A number which shows the farcical nature of modern football.
It also makes you wonder why we've never had any from Chelsea in recent years! Was Carlton Cole the last one?
** Edit, there is one Chelsea player Cristian Cuevas at Sint-Truidense!
And yet the EFL think the answer to England's problems is to allow U23 teams into the checkatrade trophy.
The real answer is to limit the number of U23 players each club can possess to say 25 (like their first team squads). That way the very cream would still end up there but they would not be able to simply hoover up the rest.
Finally they should introduce a wage cap for under U23's so as to remove the huge risk we have probably just seen with Diego Poyet that a young players drive/ambition and determination is reduced by the fact that at 19 they have signed a contract that will most likely see them financially stable for life. Further, allow payments above the cap for appearance fees in the first team, so meaning a player has a real choice to make of staying at a lower placed club for first team footy and a higher salary or going to a top club for top class facilities.
I'd take Poyet back in a heartbeat. Should be able to run a game in this league. Was poor last season but can't forget how good he was first time round.
No way!
Wouldn't sign a contract with us, thought the grass was greener elsewhere, left us and we got peanuts for him!
Came back last year and was shite, why on earth would we want him or need him?
Yeah I mean why would want to sign on a free our 13/14 championship player of the year winner in his first debut season at the age of 19??
No denying he was a great player in that season, but he should have stayed with us and learnt his trade.
Instead of that he went for the bright lights of West Ham faded into mediocrity, got loaned out several times and in the end couldn't even get in MK Dons first team!
He came to us last year was awful and was basically another total waste of money as he didn't play in the end.
So now you want him back, even on a free, once again to waste more of our wage budget!
Rather have Crofts all day long!
What is it with CL and wanting ex players back all the time?
Just a side note for anyone still confused, the English premiership ceased to exist a few years ago. Unless you are all referring to the one in Scotland, then as you were.
Other than early sold on the cheap departures I am happy with this window and the business we have done it. We always want more, but I would rather have Lookman than sold him and got a winger in on loan. I know nothing about our Norwegian new boy but Slade seems to have done ok so far with his buys, also Diarra and maybe even Kashi will be back soon to supplement the midfield.
Haven't had time to read through all the overnight posts, so forgive me if someone else has suggested this. I can't help thinking that the Lookman being sold rumours yesterday, were a smokescreen designed to make us grateful that he wasn't sold and to soften the blow that only one player was signed yesterday, when Russell had said he hoped for a couple.
That was suggested yesterday, and I felt that might well be true. I find it very hard to believe that RD/KM would turn down even £2.5m for a (very talented) youngster who hasn't (yet) played week in week out. However @Redhenry seems to have great sources so maybe that indeed happened.
Similarly, the thought of CAFC turning down over £1m for Fox seems ludicrous, but seems to be backed up by stories from Sheffield.
Either Charlton's huge expenditure on Pitch PR is paying off and we are all being hoodwinked by clever "leaks" to the press, or KM's transfer income target for this season has already been achieved and she is keeping other sales up her sleeve for next time round the transfer merry-go-round.
Or they really have changed tack in a major way - but I need to see tons more evidence over an extended period, in order to believe that.
Russell Slade doesn't want Ba and Texeira here, so I can't see them playing much.
Why would he not want Tex here? He's easily our best CB.
Tex has openly told RS and KM he wants to leave. Despite having offers he chose to stay because no-one would offer his 4 year contract duration and wages. He may well be fully committed to the cause but he'll have to prove it before he's considered for a match day squad.
Could it be possible that KM accepted a bid for Lookman and the real reason it didn't go through was that Slade said he may leave as a threat. As it would of been too late to look for a replacement. Wouldn't be surprised.
Could it be possible that KM accepted a bid for Lookman and the real reason it didn't go through was that Slade said he may leave as a threat. As it would of been too late to look for a replacement. Wouldn't be surprised.
I hope not because if that's true we could have a very disaffected young player on our hand. I doubt it though.
Very happy with our squad as it stands Some good CBs and keeping Fox and Lookie a bonus, I have a hunch RS will pick up some free agents as well. The clubs actions during the window tell me that they want promotion, and with this squad it must now be realistic. Onwards and upwards. Come on you Redddddds!
I wouldn't be surprised if the club announce in a few weeks an upgraded contract for Lookman, maybe that is where the buy out clause comes from! Well played
My football rating of Lookman is separate from my transfer rating to the Premier League. There is so much money available to these clubs that his price tag ought to reflect that rather than what people think a player of his status, age or ability ought to be. If he was to go to Crystal Palace for example I would price him at 10 million plus add ons and sell one. To Manchester City maybe even more.
Russell Slade doesn't want Ba and Texeira here, so I can't see them playing much.
Why would he not want Tex here? He's easily our best CB.
wouldn't be at all surprised if in the next few days both had their contracts terminated with a nice settlement allowing them to go elsewhere on another decent contract and allow Roly to save money on unwanted salaries.
Could it be possible that KM accepted a bid for Lookman and the real reason it didn't go through was that Slade said he may leave as a threat. As it would of been too late to look for a replacement. Wouldn't be surprised.
I heard that this was true, and that we tried to cancel Ricky Holmes' contract as well but couldn't find it
Keeping Tex is bad news. I thought he was okay last year but nothing to amaze anyone. Sticking to Slade's policy as well... Tex made it very clear that he wants to leave so I have no idea why people are happy about keeping him. IF we could have offloaded him and Ba I think we would of been talking about some exciting new signings to really boost our promotions prospects. Instead, we are left with two foreigners who got us in this mess in the first place.
Keeping Tex is bad news. I thought he was okay last year but nothing to amaze anyone. Sticking to Slade's policy as well... Tex made it very clear that he wants to leave so I have no idea why people are happy about keeping him. IF we could have offloaded him and Ba I think we would of been talking about some exciting new signings to really boost our promotions prospects. Instead, we are left with two foreigners who got us in this mess in the first place.
Russell Slade doesn't want Ba and Texeira here, so I can't see them playing much.
Why would he not want Tex here? He's easily our best CB.
wouldn't be at all surprised if in the next few days both had their contracts terminated with a nice settlement allowing them to go elsewhere on another decent contract and allow Roly to save money on unwanted salaries.
Keeping Tex is bad news. I thought he was okay last year but nothing to amaze anyone. Sticking to Slade's policy as well... Tex made it very clear that he wants to leave so I have no idea why people are happy about keeping him. IF we could have offloaded him and Ba I think we would of been talking about some exciting new signings to really boost our promotions prospects. Instead, we are left with two foreigners who got us in this mess in the first place.
Russell Slade doesn't want Ba and Texeira here, so I can't see them playing much.
Why would he not want Tex here? He's easily our best CB.
wouldn't be at all surprised if in the next few days both had their contracts terminated with a nice settlement allowing them to go elsewhere on another decent contract and allow Roly to save money on unwanted salaries.
won't happen (unless it has happened already)
Players can only move as free agents if they were free agents in the last window.
This is to stop just what you suggested happening outside of the windows.
Keeping Tex is bad news. I thought he was okay last year but nothing to amaze anyone. Sticking to Slade's policy as well... Tex made it very clear that he wants to leave so I have no idea why people are happy about keeping him. IF we could have offloaded him and Ba I think we would of been talking about some exciting new signings to really boost our promotions prospects. Instead, we are left with two foreigners who got us in this mess in the first place.
Russell Slade doesn't want Ba and Texeira here, so I can't see them playing much.
Why would he not want Tex here? He's easily our best CB.
wouldn't be at all surprised if in the next few days both had their contracts terminated with a nice settlement allowing them to go elsewhere on another decent contract and allow Roly to save money on unwanted salaries.
won't happen (unless it has happened already)
Players can only move as free agents if they were free agents in the last window.
This is to stop just what you suggested happening outside of the windows.
Which is why Poyet got his terminated before 11pm last night
Russell Slade doesn't want Ba and Texeira here, so I can't see them playing much.
Why would he not want Tex here? He's easily our best CB.
wouldn't be at all surprised if in the next few days both had their contracts terminated with a nice settlement allowing them to go elsewhere on another decent contract and allow Roly to save money on unwanted salaries.
Some logic there. You would have been better selling the player at a reduced cost enabling the buying club to make up the saving on his wages.
Why give away a player that has a sell on value, and who knows if a player picks up an injury, he could come in over the coming weeks have a great 3 months and get a move in January.
Keeping Tex is bad news. I thought he was okay last year but nothing to amaze anyone. Sticking to Slade's policy as well... Tex made it very clear that he wants to leave so I have no idea why people are happy about keeping him. IF we could have offloaded him and Ba I think we would of been talking about some exciting new signings to really boost our promotions prospects. Instead, we are left with two foreigners who got us in this mess in the first place.
Yeah, fuck those foreigners eh?
Stating a fact.
Yes in your head. Tex was a plus last season.
So, to confirm then.... you want a player to start games that doesn't care about the club whatsoever and made it clear he wants to leave? All this CARD and issues with the club is confusing.
Keeping Tex is bad news. I thought he was okay last year but nothing to amaze anyone. Sticking to Slade's policy as well... Tex made it very clear that he wants to leave so I have no idea why people are happy about keeping him. IF we could have offloaded him and Ba I think we would of been talking about some exciting new signings to really boost our promotions prospects. Instead, we are left with two foreigners who got us in this mess in the first place.
Russell Slade doesn't want Ba and Texeira here, so I can't see them playing much.
Why would he not want Tex here? He's easily our best CB.
wouldn't be at all surprised if in the next few days both had their contracts terminated with a nice settlement allowing them to go elsewhere on another decent contract and allow Roly to save money on unwanted salaries.
Some logic there. You would have been better selling the player at a reduced cost enabling the buying club to make up the saving on his wages.
Why give away a player that has a sell on value, and who knows if a player picks up an injury, he could come in over the coming weeks have a great 3 months and get a move in January.
I agree but it depends on the player and the wages.
Tex might attract interest but he is now 30 and had 4 years left on his deal. He has little incentive to take a pay cut to go elsewhere. Say he's on £10k pw that is £2m over the lifetime of the deal.
Charlton aren't likely to offer him that as a pay off but few other clubs abroad will offer his similar and clearly no one in the Championship did.
So he stays. We already have four players out on loan where we are fairly certain to be subsidising their wages. But you are right. If he does well we might be able to sell or loan him out in January or next summer. But he'll be 31 by then.
Ba, I was told, the club would have been happy to terminate his deal but maybe Ba wasn't and again why should he make himself unemployed with no offer of another contract on the table. He doesn't have a good track record in football and he'd most likely have to take a big pay cut and move to another country. All a risk for him.
And as I said before if we cancel their contract now they can't sign for another club in any case until January so they will stay put
This isn't unique to us. Other clubs have similar situations especially when they have had changes in management and each new boss wants their own types of players.
It's just that we've had a lot of changes and so have Watt, Igor, Cebellos, Sarr, Ba and Tex. Previously we had Reza, Polish Pete and Tucedean.
I think with Slade having more control we'll get less of this going forward but for now we are left with the consequences of previous mistakes.
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The real answer is to limit the number of U23 players each club can possess to say 25 (like their first team squads). That way the very cream would still end up there but they would not be able to simply hoover up the rest.
Finally they should introduce a wage cap for under U23's so as to remove the huge risk we have probably just seen with Diego Poyet that a young players drive/ambition and determination is reduced by the fact that at 19 they have signed a contract that will most likely see them financially stable for life. Further, allow payments above the cap for appearance fees in the first team, so meaning a player has a real choice to make of staying at a lower placed club for first team footy and a higher salary or going to a top club for top class facilities.
Instead of that he went for the bright lights of West Ham faded into mediocrity, got loaned out several times and in the end couldn't even get in MK Dons first team!
He came to us last year was awful and was basically another total waste of money as he didn't play in the end.
So now you want him back, even on a free, once again to waste more of our wage budget!
Rather have Crofts all day long!
What is it with CL and wanting ex players back all the time?
Similarly, the thought of CAFC turning down over £1m for Fox seems ludicrous, but seems to be backed up by stories from Sheffield.
Either Charlton's huge expenditure on Pitch PR is paying off and we are all being hoodwinked by clever "leaks" to the press, or KM's transfer income target for this season has already been achieved and she is keeping other sales up her sleeve for next time round the transfer merry-go-round.
Or they really have changed tack in a major way - but I need to see tons more evidence over an extended period, in order to believe that.
Also think that Tex wouldn't look out of place as a defensive midfielder
Some good CBs and keeping Fox and Lookie a bonus, I have a hunch RS will pick up some free agents as well.
The clubs actions during the window tell me that they want promotion, and with this squad it must now be realistic. Onwards and upwards.
Come on you Redddddds!
There is so much money available to these clubs that his price tag ought to reflect that rather than what people think a player of his status, age or ability ought to be.
If he was to go to Crystal Palace for example I would price him at 10 million plus add ons and sell one.
To Manchester City maybe even more.
Players can only move as free agents if they were free agents in the last window.
This is to stop just what you suggested happening outside of the windows.
Why give away a player that has a sell on value, and who knows if a player picks up an injury, he could come in over the coming weeks have a great 3 months and get a move in January.
Tex might attract interest but he is now 30 and had 4 years left on his deal. He has little incentive to take a pay cut to go elsewhere. Say he's on £10k pw that is £2m over the lifetime of the deal.
Charlton aren't likely to offer him that as a pay off but few other clubs abroad will offer his similar and clearly no one in the Championship did.
So he stays. We already have four players out on loan where we are fairly certain to be subsidising their wages. But you are right. If he does well we might be able to sell or loan him out in January or next summer. But he'll be 31 by then.
Ba, I was told, the club would have been happy to terminate his deal but maybe Ba wasn't and again why should he make himself unemployed with no offer of another contract on the table. He doesn't have a good track record in football and he'd most likely have to take a big pay cut and move to another country. All a risk for him.
And as I said before if we cancel their contract now they can't sign for another club in any case until January so they will stay put
This isn't unique to us. Other clubs have similar situations especially when they have had changes in management and each new boss wants their own types of players.
It's just that we've had a lot of changes and so have Watt, Igor, Cebellos, Sarr, Ba and Tex. Previously we had Reza, Polish Pete and Tucedean.
I think with Slade having more control we'll get less of this going forward but for now we are left with the consequences of previous mistakes.