Shouldn't be a need for segregation. There isn't in most other sports.
Football is extremely tribal. That's one of the reasons it's better than most other sports.
The day we get neutral stands like at Fulham will completely kill what minuscule remaining amount of atmosphere there is at modern games.
There's a world of difference between storming ends and battering the granny out of oppo fans at one end of the spectrum whilst having a mixed rugby/ cricket crowd having "friendly vomit- inducing bantz" with rivals at the other but surely the segregation and partisan nature of the game in this country is one of the things that makes it so enjoyable.
Shouldn't be a need for segregation. There isn't in most other sports.
Football is extremely tribal. That's one of the reasons it's better than most other sports.
The day we get neutral stands like at Fulham will completely kill what minuscule remaining amount of atmosphere there is at modern games.
There's a world of difference between storming ends and battering the granny out of oppo fans at one end of the spectrum whilst having a mixed rugby/ cricket crowd having "friendly vomit- inducing bantz" with rivals at the other but surely the segregation and partisan nature of the game in this country is one of the things that makes it so enjoyable.
Wouldn't want to see an end to home and away ends, but the point is that, as functioning human beings, even at a football match it ought to be possible to sit next to a fan of another team without breaking out the knuckle sandwiches.
Caveat before posting: in no way am I blaming hooliganism for Hillsborough.
The ink is not even dry on the inquiry into Hillsborough and vindicating what LFC's fans have been saying the whole time - that they are not hooligans, the press unfairly labels them and that they are victims.
Then the first time they get into a major fixture after said report and they act like this. Do these look like fans who seriously honour the memories of those who died that day? No doubt several of those fans have tattoos with the number 96 somewhere on it.
Caveat before posting: in no way am I blaming hooliganism for Hillsborough.
The ink is not even dry on the inquiry into Hillsborough and vindicating what LFC's fans have been saying the whole time - that they are not hooligans, the press unfairly labels them and that they are victims.
Then the first time they get into a major fixture after said report and they act like this. Do these look like fans who seriously honour the memories of those who died that day? No doubt several of those fans have tattoos with the number 96 somewhere on it.
We know for certain Liverpool fans have run in and started a fight then do we? You're quite right, the ink isn't even dry on the latest Hillsborough report, so we shouldn't be so quick to judge either way.
Shouldn't be a need for segregation. There isn't in most other sports.
Football is extremely tribal. That's one of the reasons it's better than most other sports.
The day we get neutral stands like at Fulham will completely kill what minuscule remaining amount of atmosphere there is at modern games.
There's a world of difference between storming ends and battering the granny out of oppo fans at one end of the spectrum whilst having a mixed rugby/ cricket crowd having "friendly vomit- inducing bantz" with rivals at the other but surely the segregation and partisan nature of the game in this country is one of the things that makes it so enjoyable.
Wouldn't want to see an end to home and away ends, but the point is that, as functioning human beings, even at a football match it ought to be possible to sit next to a fan of another team without breaking out the knuckle sandwiches.
It happens already a number of times a season already at Charlton without aggro.
However I disagree that it's ok for away fans to openly celebrate or cheer their team on in the home ends. It maybe should be in a civilised society but it's one of the illogical and irrational things about complete partisan passion and tribalism of football that means it's far from alright....which is a good thing in my opinion and adds to the tension and atmosphere particularly of games with a a bit of needle such as derbies and important league or cup games etc and long may it remain.
Caveat before posting: in no way am I blaming hooliganism for Hillsborough.
The ink is not even dry on the inquiry into Hillsborough and vindicating what LFC's fans have been saying the whole time - that they are not hooligans, the press unfairly labels them and that they are victims.
Then the first time they get into a major fixture after said report and they act like this. Do these look like fans who seriously honour the memories of those who died that day? No doubt several of those fans have tattoos with the number 96 somewhere on it.
Was thinking much the same... and hooliganism was partially to blame for Hillsborough. Not directly on the day, where the fans conduct was actually fine, but in the preceding years where the behavior of, so minded, fans led to the perceived need to pen them into stands and the dehumanised view police developed of football fans.
No fence at Hillsborough, no crush, and if fans hadn't given themselves such a bad name over the years, perhaps people wouldn't have been so ready to believe the police's twisted version of events.
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The day we get neutral stands like at Fulham will completely kill what minuscule remaining amount of atmosphere there is at modern games.
There's a world of difference between storming ends and battering the granny out of oppo fans at one end of the spectrum whilst having a mixed rugby/ cricket crowd having "friendly vomit- inducing bantz" with rivals at the other but surely the segregation and partisan nature of the game in this country is one of the things that makes it so enjoyable.
The ink is not even dry on the inquiry into Hillsborough and vindicating what LFC's fans have been saying the whole time - that they are not hooligans, the press unfairly labels them and that they are victims.
Then the first time they get into a major fixture after said report and they act like this. Do these look like fans who seriously honour the memories of those who died that day? No doubt several of those fans have tattoos with the number 96 somewhere on it.
However I disagree that it's ok for away fans to openly celebrate or cheer their team on in the home ends. It maybe should be in a civilised society but it's one of the illogical and irrational things about complete partisan passion and tribalism of football that means it's far from alright....which is a good thing in my opinion and adds to the tension and atmosphere particularly of games with a a bit of needle such as derbies and important league or cup games etc and long may it remain.
No fence at Hillsborough, no crush, and if fans hadn't given themselves such a bad name over the years, perhaps people wouldn't have been so ready to believe the police's twisted version of events.