Well done to all concerned. As stated above regardless of if the FA do nothing with it, this needs to go out to all media outlets and make Meire feel more unique.
According to the letter CAST say that, either as an independent body or as a member of CARD, they do not condone illegal acts. Surely the throwing of hundreds or thousands of beach and stress balls onto the pitch as organised by CARD were illegal acts.
I just read through them again... honestly. That first bit about investing in our community... LIAR!! Then second para is just so unprofessional.
"Yeah (I want to stay). The thing is, I know what they’re trying to do, to break me down, but what I’m most frustrated at is the perception. We’ve got the most affordable season tickets, we invest in our community, we invest in our academy.
“We spend £30m in less than two years of ownership. And yes, we got it wrong with the managers and the players, but that happens, that’s why clubs get relegated, that doesn’t mean that everything else is shit. "
According to the letter CAST say that, either as an independent body or as a member of CARD, they do not condone illegal acts. Surely the throwing of hundreds or thousands of beach and stress balls onto the pitch as organised by CARD were illegal acts.
Erm... nope. Quite apart from anything else, if there was even the silliest and most pedantic way to possibly spin that as actually illegal, KM would have at least attempted it. The fact she has not speaks volumes.
According to the letter CAST say that, either as an independent body or as a member of CARD, they do not condone illegal acts. Surely the throwing of hundreds or thousands of beach and stress balls onto the pitch as organised by CARD were illegal acts.
Erm... nope. Quite apart from anything else, if there was even the silliest and most pedantic way to possibly spin that as actually illegal, KM would have at least attempted it. The fact she has not speaks volumes.
We just know that she's going to fall back on the: "I'm a female... I was misinterpretated" card
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Thanks to hearing and seeing Mandy say her interpretation of the word misinterpreted I now have got to the stage that I doubt myself. Misinterpretated will probably becomes an accepted word and appear in the next edition of the Oxford English Dictionary :- Misinterpretated : lack of understanding, particularly with regards to a female European Executive. Origin: 2016 Charlton, London( Ref: Mandy Anderson-Myers)
According to the letter CAST say that, either as an independent body or as a member of CARD, they do not condone illegal acts. Surely the throwing of hundreds or thousands of beach and stress balls onto the pitch as organised by CARD were illegal acts.
I prefer blondes, but my mate is currently going at it with a redhead...
According to the letter CAST say that, either as an independent body or as a member of CARD, they do not condone illegal acts. Surely the throwing of hundreds or thousands of beach and stress balls onto the pitch as organised by CARD were illegal acts.
Erm... nope. Quite apart from anything else, if there was even the silliest and most pedantic way to possibly spin that as actually illegal, KM would have at least attempted it. The fact she has not speaks volumes.
Erm..I think it is.
Ok, if illegal (as opposed to against club rules) what law has been broken?
It's a commendable complaint but I suspect that nothing will come of it . I hope I'm wrong .
It keeps the pressure on and the issue in the news.
If nothing else it stops the story of her latest rant being hidden.
Doubt if the FA will act or sanction but doesn't mean it isn't worth kicking up a mini-storm about it.
That's the thing. Meire must be made accountable by being investigated over her comments even if she wriggles out of it. The authorities will eventually get the message that there is no smoke without fire and that one of Football's leading club's and a great community asset is being driven to the wall by uncaring owners acting out their own personal agenda.
According to the letter CAST say that, either as an independent body or as a member of CARD, they do not condone illegal acts. Surely the throwing of hundreds or thousands of beach and stress balls onto the pitch as organised by CARD were illegal acts.
Erm... nope. Quite apart from anything else, if there was even the silliest and most pedantic way to possibly spin that as actually illegal, KM would have at least attempted it. The fact she has not speaks volumes.
Erm..I think it is.
Ok, if illegal (as opposed to against club rules) what law has been broken?
The Football Offences Act 1991.
"It is an offence at a designated football match to throw anything at or towards...the playing area or any area adjacent to the playing area....without lawful authority or lawful excuse...."
When the time is right, the circumstances are crying out for a statement from a respected group & there's yet ANOTHER "bullet in the foot" moment from the regime to share, CAS Trust steps up to the plate.
According to the letter CAST say that, either as an independent body or as a member of CARD, they do not condone illegal acts. Surely the throwing of hundreds or thousands of beach and stress balls onto the pitch as organised by CARD were illegal acts.
Erm... nope. Quite apart from anything else, if there was even the silliest and most pedantic way to possibly spin that as actually illegal, KM would have at least attempted it. The fact she has not speaks volumes.
Erm..I think it is.
Ok, if illegal (as opposed to against club rules) what law has been broken?
The Football Offences Act 1991.
"It is an offence at a designated football match to throw anything at or towards...the playing area or any area adjacent to the playing area....without lawful authority or lawful excuse...."
According to the letter CAST say that, either as an independent body or as a member of CARD, they do not condone illegal acts. Surely the throwing of hundreds or thousands of beach and stress balls onto the pitch as organised by CARD were illegal acts.
I prefer blondes, but my mate is currently going at it with a redhead...
CARD is not CAST who are not CARD. They are two seperate entities.
To quote the specific part of the CAST release:
Under no circumstances does Charlton Athletic Supporters Trust, either independently or as a member of the protest group Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD), condone any direct personal abuse or illegal action against the club, the owner, the CEO or any employees. If Meire has evidence of any criminal acts, then we urge her to report these to the police.
Essentially CAST are stating that:
(a) They do not condone personal abuse or illegal actions against the club as an independent organisation; (b) They do not condone personal abuse or illegal actions against the club as a member of CARD*; (c) Meire should report any such behaviour to the police.
I think you're getting at (b), but it's arguable that not all members of CARD have been behind every individual action. It's also worth noting that, with regards to (c), there's been a heavy presence at our recent matches by The Metropolitan Police in an effort of preventing any breaches of the peace - they have not deemed anything worthy of an arrest other than a lone pitch invader to my knowledge.
I would like to add that I'm under the impression - and open to being corrected - that The Metropolitan Police Service have actually intervened on more than one occasion where staff representing Charlton Athletic have been aggressive towards fans.
According to the letter CAST say that, either as an independent body or as a member of CARD, they do not condone illegal acts. Surely the throwing of hundreds or thousands of beach and stress balls onto the pitch as organised by CARD were illegal acts.
Erm... nope. Quite apart from anything else, if there was even the silliest and most pedantic way to possibly spin that as actually illegal, KM would have at least attempted it. The fact she has not speaks volumes.
Erm..I think it is.
Ok, if illegal (as opposed to against club rules) what law has been broken?
The Football Offences Act 1991.
"It is an offence at a designated football match to throw anything at or towards...the playing area or any area adjacent to the playing area....without lawful authority or lawful excuse...."
I think we can claim lawful excuse. She is doing our heads in and we are peaceably protesting.
No, I haven't missed any subtlety. CARD have been repeatedly involved and directing illegal acts. CAST are members of CARD and by being so and indeed remaining so have to accept they have been condoning illegal acts.
Whether Katrien reported these acts or whether the Police responded to those acts is irrelevant. The law was broken.
I'm not attacking CAST for being involved in these protests, ( I have taken part in these protests) but I believe that there letter is technically incorrect.
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Now Daisy will have to spend more of Roland's cash on paying to have search engines cleaned up again.
I just read through them again... honestly. That first bit about investing in our community... LIAR!! Then second para is just so unprofessional.
"Yeah (I want to stay). The thing is, I know what they’re trying to do, to break me down, but what I’m most frustrated at is the perception. We’ve got the most affordable season tickets, we invest in our community, we invest in our academy.
“We spend £30m in less than two years of ownership. And yes, we got it wrong with the managers and the players, but that happens, that’s why clubs get relegated, that doesn’t mean that everything else is shit. "
Well done Trust, keep up the heat.
It is for The Association to determine in its absolute discretion the manner in which it conducts an inquiry.
Excellent letter though, let's hope it's picked up by the media & investigated. Well done.
Misinterpretated will probably becomes an accepted word and appear in the next edition of the Oxford English Dictionary :-
Misinterpretated : lack of understanding, particularly with regards to a female European Executive. Origin: 2016 Charlton, London( Ref: Mandy Anderson-Myers)
Meire must be made accountable by being investigated over her comments even if she wriggles out of it.
The authorities will eventually get the message that there is no smoke without fire and that one of Football's leading club's and a great community asset is being driven to the wall by uncaring owners acting out their own personal agenda.
"It is an offence at a designated football match to throw anything at or towards...the playing area or any area adjacent to the playing area....without lawful authority or lawful excuse...."
Well done to all concerned.
To quote the specific part of the CAST release: Essentially CAST are stating that:
(a) They do not condone personal abuse or illegal actions against the club as an independent organisation;
(b) They do not condone personal abuse or illegal actions against the club as a member of CARD*;
(c) Meire should report any such behaviour to the police.
I think you're getting at (b), but it's arguable that not all members of CARD have been behind every individual action. It's also worth noting that, with regards to (c), there's been a heavy presence at our recent matches by The Metropolitan Police in an effort of preventing any breaches of the peace - they have not deemed anything worthy of an arrest other than a lone pitch invader to my knowledge.
I would like to add that I'm under the impression - and open to being corrected - that The Metropolitan Police Service have actually intervened on more than one occasion where staff representing Charlton Athletic have been aggressive towards fans.
No, I haven't missed any subtlety. CARD have been repeatedly involved and directing illegal acts. CAST are members of CARD and by being so and indeed remaining so have to accept they have been condoning illegal acts.
Whether Katrien reported these acts or whether the Police responded to those acts is irrelevant. The law was broken.
I'm not attacking CAST for being involved in these protests, ( I have taken part in these protests) but I believe that there letter is technically incorrect.