What if the last 3 years has all been a ploy to get us onside with Varney's men regardless of whether they move us or not.....'Charlton fans won't want to move from The Valley, but put in a stooge for a year or two and they'll follow us to Kent'
Under current circumstances and with recent approaches the club has not been for sale so KM was telling the truth about that.
The only discussion with PV has been about approaching RD to arrange a meeting for discussion which has been rebuffed. So KM can't know any specific details so is lying about the PV buyers wanting to move the club.
PV is very confident in his position as demanding of a retraction.
It would be interesting to see if Varney does release the emails if the statement isn't retracted. If he doesn't go ahead with what he said he would do does that mean there is an element of truth?
I really don't think Varney would have made that statement if there was any truth in Meire's comments.
Something you would call a housing development that, for sure.
This mans intentions are tax avoidance and income from other streams, hotels and housing and such. Can offset taxes on the losses of the Club also, lower league helps him.. He needs us as fans to just be quiet and accept, so we need to do the polar opposite.
OK I am very, very confused, The above sits very comfortably with my conspiracy theory, Mr RD is a successful €.5 billion businessman so clearly he isn't daft, likewise KM is a corporate lawyer working in the RD regime and I seriously doubt for one second she is not fully in control of the situation she finds herself in, I don't think for one minute she expected it to unfold the way it has and probably finds it quite unpleasant, I reckon she is the consummate professional and very tough with it, I will not lower my opinion to insults or name calling of a personal nature, she is paid to do a job and she is doing it within the parameters set by the regime.
Sadly for the club in my conspiracy theory I think RD maybe sees hotels and flats ideally located around a lower league club / championship -for occasional weekend entertainment and events - perfectly situated in an international city with readily accessible close transit system, otherwise I just do not get why this regime allowed last year to unfold the way it did. Furthermore
I think they somehow envisage a business model of football grounds providing lucrative, reasonably priced real estate in central city locations with excellent business structures to manage the overall business on a global scale and the academy as a CAT 1 feeder style academy providing a steady stream of quality youth players into the club and selling off the cream of this talent to higher div clubs, hence the obvious investment in the TG to achieve this, Last season, they did make a huge mistake as I do not think they envisaged relegation and this has undoubtedly messed up the academy plans as you cannot achieve CAT 1 status as a league 1 club hence work has ceased/ slowed up as the TG.... and herein lies the dilemma, it appears to me they have no real understanding of passion for football or in our instance Charlton as a club and while this is missing I think as a football club we will suffer.
Positively I wish Russell Slade, Steve Head the very best of luck in their new roles and will take these appointment as a positive step towards recovery from last season.
The somewhat huge snag with your theory is that Meire is not, never has been and never will be a "successful corporate lawyer". Her past employment record speaks for itself. There is nothing to show that she has ever done anything which merits the use of such a description.
Corrected Have removed the word 'successful' - just for you ...
Feck me you have to be on ya toes in here these days, interpretation of post, Grammar police etc
I think you'll find that's 'grammar police' or, possibly, 'Grammar Police' but certainly not 'Grammar police'.
Doh, thought I'd nailed it as well, clearly need more practise
Surely you mean practice.
Lol, when I worded the reply I just knew someone would bite on the last word
Did Varney breach any confidentiality clauses when he published the emails in VOTV?
A fair question, and it would depend upon what, if anything, was in place NDA-wise. As I posted before, I get the impression from the emails that talks hadn't even evolved to a stage where an NDA was in place, or even needed (or the British equivalent, should have noted in my previous post that there may be a different system over there, though when I've done business overseas it's been pretty standard).
Playing devil's advocate, you could say that it was "less-than-professional" of Varney to release his email chain. He was, after all, inquiring about the sale of a business which is apparently not up for sale. Just as I alluded to a professionalism regarding not sharing another party's information or plans before a formal NDA is in place, releasing an email thread could be seen as bad form.
That said, I think it was quite a shrewd move from a business perspective, and had the desired effect--put more pressure on the SMT. Furthermore, his complaint was a communication breakdown and flakiness/lack of courtesy on behalf of RD/KM to meet with him. If nothing else, for me that makes things about even.
I think KM viewed this claim about Varney as a shrewd business move on her part. And if you take the logic that Varney releasing information that made the regime look bad as being shrewd, then you could make the case that KM releasing damning information about Varney was shrewd too...except for the fact that you can't just say shit, it has to be true. Especially in the internet age. Especially when you're embattled in your position.
Lastly, and for what it's worth, I would be very surprised if Varney disclosed a re-location without an NDA in place. Even if you put everything else, all histories and whatnot aside, I still can't imagine him being that thorough in a plan without protection in place.
There has never been any non-disclosure agreement put in place between Varney and the current regime (or with any relevant third party).
Cheers AB. You don't have to answer this as I don't want you to give away privileged information, but would it be a somewhat fair summation to say "that's because serious talks never took place, given the breakdown seemed to happen at the 'getting the regime to sit down and talk' phase?"
Talks about talks.
During the talks about talks, was it ever discussed where the actual talks were to take place? Because, if PV suggested, during the talks about talks that the talks should take place somewhere other than the Valley, I can see how a dim-witted CEO might have misinterpretated it somewhat.
He offered to travel to Belgium initially as per the emails, and didn't he ask not to do it at The Valley specifically?
Surely even Katrien isn't stupid enough not to understand the need for some privacy and discretion over the location of the talks?
Tut, tut why would she want to hide away.....
Dunno, why are you asking me? I've never met the dopey mare.
So Varney was still trying to approach within the last 3 weeks? That must be 6 months he's spent trying to get a deal together now, I admire his persistence and think he came across incredibly well in that BBC Kent piece.
Disappointing that he says the club is not for sale, but I dare say even if it was he would have to choose his words very wisely..
Being truthfully honest right now, since everything has turned against KM and RD in the last 7 months or so; has she actually said anything right or true? I genuinely believe she's just mugging the club off now and she's run out of ideas so she tries to make other people look worse than her which is actually quite offensive because she is basically saying Charlton fans will believe anything and everything. I haven't believed a word she's said because it's all nonsense.
Talking of Church he has a value of 5.5m euros in the fantasy football selections.....
Damn is it too late claim that we had a sell on clause that if Wales made the euros Charlton would receive Curchie's fantasy football value from MK. Come on legal boffins think fast
Talking of Church he has a value of 5.5m euros in the fantasy football selections.....
Damn is it too late claim that we had a sell on clause that if Wales made the euros Charlton would receive Curchie's fantasy football value from MK. Come on legal boffins think fast
The club is not for sale if Peter Varney is at all associated with the investors, that's what I've taken from it.
Not rational though, is it? RD will do business with anyone, surely? If the money is right, why would he be influenced by some past personal dispute? It's not as if he cares what happens to us.
I know I'm in the minority here but I can't get that worked up by what Katrien says or does. I doubt she's had much input into the decisions that have really damaged the club. It's Roland that needs to be the target not his puppet.
The slightest bit of awkwardness and some kind of tourette's kicks in. Panic sets in and rumours and personal thoughts become muddled with facts and out it all comes in an overly defensive manner.
The club is not for sale if Peter Varney is at all associated with the investors, that's what I've taken from it.
Not rational though, is it? RD will do business with anyone, surely? If the money is right, why would he be influenced by some past personal dispute? It's not as if he cares what happens to us.
Under current circumstances and with recent approaches the club has not been for sale so KM was telling the truth about that.
The only discussion with PV has been about approaching RD to arrange a meeting for discussion which has been rebuffed. So KM can't know any specific details so is lying about the PV buyers wanting to move the club.
PV is very confident in his position as demanding of a retraction.
PV is a very clever strategist. The more things like this are put into the public domain, the more us fans will rally against Duchatelet ultimately forcing him to sell ...
If she plans to go for misinterpretation again....then the only thing she can do is say she didn't mean that it was Varneys consortium specifically that wanted to move Charlton from the valley.
Who was it then? Would be the follow up.
Speaking without thinking is like her illness she has created.
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Under current circumstances and with recent approaches the club has not been for sale so KM was telling the truth about that.
The only discussion with PV has been about approaching RD to arrange a meeting for discussion which has been rebuffed. So KM can't know any specific details so is lying about the PV buyers wanting to move the club.
PV is very confident in his position as demanding of a retraction.
Sorry, but I want to join in this thread and have no business or legal experience.
Disappointing that he says the club is not for sale, but I dare say even if it was he would have to choose his words very wisely..
Talking of Church he has a value of 5.5m euros in the fantasy football selections.....
Damn is it too late claim that we had a sell on clause that if Wales made the euros Charlton would receive Curchie's fantasy football value from MK. Come on legal boffins think fast
Just my opinion of course.
I think it was 5 euros
http://www.compulsivelyingdisorder.com/what-is-compulsive-lying-disorder/
Who was it then? Would be the follow up.
Speaking without thinking is like her illness she has created.