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Varney takeover to move Charlton from The Valley (Meire's claims - Varney goes on attack)
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Thought she looked rough at the press conference....Oggy Red said:In that photo, Miere looks like she's aged 10 years.
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What if the last 3 years has all been a ploy to get us onside with Varney's men regardless of whether they move us or not.....'Charlton fans won't want to move from The Valley, but put in a stooge for a year or two and they'll follow us to Kent'2
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Has she retracted yet?
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Well that confirms a few things......Airman Brown said:
Under current circumstances and with recent approaches the club has not been for sale so KM was telling the truth about that.
The only discussion with PV has been about approaching RD to arrange a meeting for discussion which has been rebuffed. So KM can't know any specific details so is lying about the PV buyers wanting to move the club.
PV is very confident in his position as demanding of a retraction.0 -
2-0 to the Addicks. Church and Sordell.
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Well only time will tellDavo55 said:
I really don't think Varney would have made that statement if there was any truth in Meire's comments.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:It would be interesting to see if Varney does release the emails if the statement isn't retracted. If he doesn't go ahead with what he said he would do does that mean there is an element of truth?
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Lol, when I worded the reply I just knew someone would bite on the last wordhappyvalley said:
Surely you mean practice.madadd said:
Doh, thought I'd nailed it as well, clearly need more practiseAddicksAddict said:
I think you'll find that's 'grammar police' or, possibly, 'Grammar Police' but certainly not 'Grammar police'.madadd said:cafcfan said:
The somewhat huge snag with your theory is that Meire is not, never has been and never will be a "successful corporate lawyer". Her past employment record speaks for itself. There is nothing to show that she has ever done anything which merits the use of such a description.madadd said:
OK I am very, very confused, The above sits very comfortably with my conspiracy theory, Mr RD is a successful €.5 billion businessman so clearly he isn't daft, likewise KM is a corporate lawyer working in the RD regime and I seriously doubt for one second she is not fully in control of the situation she finds herself in, I don't think for one minute she expected it to unfold the way it has and probably finds it quite unpleasant, I reckon she is the consummate professional and very tough with it, I will not lower my opinion to insults or name calling of a personal nature, she is paid to do a job and she is doing it within the parameters set by the regime.Atletico Addick said:
Something you would call a housing development that, for sure.sammy391 said:
This mans intentions are tax avoidance and income from other streams, hotels and housing and such. Can offset taxes on the losses of the Club also, lower league helps him.. He needs us as fans to just be quiet and accept, so we need to do the polar opposite.
Sadly for the club in my conspiracy theory I think RD maybe sees hotels and flats ideally located around a lower league club / championship -for occasional weekend entertainment and events - perfectly situated in an international city with readily accessible close transit system, otherwise I just do not get why this regime allowed last year to unfold the way it did. Furthermore
I think they somehow envisage a business model of football grounds providing lucrative, reasonably priced real estate in central city locations with excellent business structures to manage the overall business on a global scale and the academy as a CAT 1 feeder style academy providing a steady stream of quality youth players into the club and selling off the cream of this talent to higher div clubs, hence the obvious investment in the TG to achieve this, Last season, they did make a huge mistake as I do not think they envisaged relegation and this has undoubtedly messed up the academy plans as you cannot achieve CAT 1 status as a league 1 club hence work has ceased/ slowed up as the TG.... and herein lies the dilemma, it appears to me they have no real understanding of passion for football or in our instance Charlton as a club and while this is missing I think as a football club we will suffer.
Positively I wish Russell Slade, Steve Head the very best of luck in their new roles and will take these appointment as a positive step towards recovery from last season.
Corrected Have removed the word 'successful' - just for you
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Feck me you have to be on ya toes in here these days, interpretation of post, Grammar police etc0 -
Dunno, why are you asking me? I've never met the dopey mare.T.C.E said:
Tut, tut why would she want to hide away.....LuckyReds said:
He offered to travel to Belgium initially as per the emails, and didn't he ask not to do it at The Valley specifically?Chizz said:
During the talks about talks, was it ever discussed where the actual talks were to take place? Because, if PV suggested, during the talks about talks that the talks should take place somewhere other than the Valley, I can see how a dim-witted CEO might have misinterpretated it somewhat.Airman Brown said:
Talks about talks.SDAddick said:
Cheers AB. You don't have to answer this as I don't want you to give away privileged information, but would it be a somewhat fair summation to say "that's because serious talks never took place, given the breakdown seemed to happen at the 'getting the regime to sit down and talk' phase?"Airman Brown said:
There has never been any non-disclosure agreement put in place between Varney and the current regime (or with any relevant third party).SDAddick said:
A fair question, and it would depend upon what, if anything, was in place NDA-wise. As I posted before, I get the impression from the emails that talks hadn't even evolved to a stage where an NDA was in place, or even needed (or the British equivalent, should have noted in my previous post that there may be a different system over there, though when I've done business overseas it's been pretty standard).MrOneLung said:Did Varney breach any confidentiality clauses when he published the emails in VOTV?
Playing devil's advocate, you could say that it was "less-than-professional" of Varney to release his email chain. He was, after all, inquiring about the sale of a business which is apparently not up for sale. Just as I alluded to a professionalism regarding not sharing another party's information or plans before a formal NDA is in place, releasing an email thread could be seen as bad form.
That said, I think it was quite a shrewd move from a business perspective, and had the desired effect--put more pressure on the SMT. Furthermore, his complaint was a communication breakdown and flakiness/lack of courtesy on behalf of RD/KM to meet with him. If nothing else, for me that makes things about even.
I think KM viewed this claim about Varney as a shrewd business move on her part. And if you take the logic that Varney releasing information that made the regime look bad as being shrewd, then you could make the case that KM releasing damning information about Varney was shrewd too...except for the fact that you can't just say shit, it has to be true. Especially in the internet age. Especially when you're embattled in your position.
Lastly, and for what it's worth, I would be very surprised if Varney disclosed a re-location without an NDA in place. Even if you put everything else, all histories and whatnot aside, I still can't imagine him being that thorough in a plan without protection in place.
Surely even Katrien isn't stupid enough not to understand the need for some privacy and discretion over the location of the talks?
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So Varney was still trying to approach within the last 3 weeks? That must be 6 months he's spent trying to get a deal together now, I admire his persistence and think he came across incredibly well in that BBC Kent piece.
Disappointing that he says the club is not for sale, but I dare say even if it was he would have to choose his words very wisely..0 -
The club is not for sale if Peter Varney is at all associated with the investors, that's what I've taken from it.2
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This is going nowhere I fear.0
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Being truthfully honest right now, since everything has turned against KM and RD in the last 7 months or so; has she actually said anything right or true? I genuinely believe she's just mugging the club off now and she's run out of ideas so she tries to make other people look worse than her which is actually quite offensive because she is basically saying Charlton fans will believe anything and everything. I haven't believed a word she's said because it's all nonsense.4
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Talking of Church he has a value of 5.5m euros in the fantasy football selections.....
Damn is it too late claim that we had a sell on clause that if Wales made the euros Charlton would receive Curchie's fantasy football value from MK. Come on legal boffins think fast
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So he's revealed what's in the emails is that correct?1
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If PV is the equivalent of a premier league CEO, KM would be lucky to be a Sunday league team CEO.
Just my opinion of course.3 -
Don't worry mate, neither has Katrien, and that hasn't stopped her so far.Uboat said:2-0 to the Addicks. Church and Sordell.
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Damn is it too late claim that we had a sell on clause that if Wales made the euros Charlton would receive Curchie's fantasy football value from MK. Come on legal boffins think fastaddickfanatic said:
Talking of Church he has a value of 5.5m euros in the fantasy football selections.....
I think it was 5 euros0 -
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Did someone say church is valued at 5 euros. Far too much4
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Doesn't seem to be stopping a lot of peopleUboat said:2-0 to the Addicks. Church and Sordell.
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Not rational though, is it? RD will do business with anyone, surely? If the money is right, why would he be influenced by some past personal dispute? It's not as if he cares what happens to us.The Red Robin said:The club is not for sale if Peter Varney is at all associated with the investors, that's what I've taken from it.
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I know I'm in the minority here but I can't get that worked up by what Katrien says or does. I doubt she's had much input into the decisions that have really damaged the club. It's Roland that needs to be the target not his puppet.3
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Is there such a thing as Liar's tourettes ?Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch said:The slightest bit of awkwardness and some kind of tourette's kicks in. Panic sets in and rumours and personal thoughts become muddled with facts and out it all comes in an overly defensive manner.
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But since when has RD been rational?PragueAddick said:
Not rational though, is it? RD will do business with anyone, surely? If the money is right, why would he be influenced by some past personal dispute? It's not as if he cares what happens to us.The Red Robin said:The club is not for sale if Peter Varney is at all associated with the investors, that's what I've taken from it.
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PV is a very clever strategist. The more things like this are put into the public domain, the more us fans will rally against Duchatelet ultimately forcing him to sell ...DRAddick said:
Well that confirms a few things......Airman Brown said:
Under current circumstances and with recent approaches the club has not been for sale so KM was telling the truth about that.
The only discussion with PV has been about approaching RD to arrange a meeting for discussion which has been rebuffed. So KM can't know any specific details so is lying about the PV buyers wanting to move the club.
PV is very confident in his position as demanding of a retraction.4 -
It isn't: much like trying to involve the FA when she called all Charlton fans racist.Which she didn't, of course.Alwaysneil said:This is going nowhere I fear.
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If she plans to go for misinterpretation again....then the only thing she can do is say she didn't mean that it was Varneys consortium specifically that wanted to move Charlton from the valley.
Who was it then? Would be the follow up.
Speaking without thinking is like her illness she has created.0
