I read somewhere that there is a belief he is Autistic - maybe somebody a bit cleverer than myself could piece his actions together with that condition.
Please guys, enough with the armchair diagnosis of autism. Roland's just a twonk, OK?
Can't stand meire everything about her irritates me.. I did think Slade came across very well though, under different circumstances he would be a great choice.
This is exactly how I feel. Good bloke, good manager and means well. Under different circumstances, he'd be a good fit.
Look how nervous Katrien Meire gets when Roland Duchatelet is mentioned around the 18/19 minute mark.
I still cannot believe that this woman is a qualified lawyer. Seriously, is it possible to fake certificates or are Belgian examinations easier. She is just too dense.
Looking at the video of the press conference I can't get past the giant tick in the background going through Katrien's head. Sometimes it goes right through and sometimes it just looks like a weird bit of hair. It seemed fitting somehow, as she blathered on about new beginnings again or something, I was just more intrigued by the tick.
I still cannot believe that this woman is a qualified lawyer. Seriously, is it possible to fake certificates or are Belgian examinations easier ? She is just too dense.
I still cannot believe that this woman is a qualified lawyer. Seriously, is it possible to fake certificates or are Belgian examinations easier ? She is just too dense.
So true, and remember her former University gave her a top award just months ago for her achievements as CEO at Charlton! Hardly a great advert for the prestigious KU Leuven University with its 600 year history. What were they thinking? No doubt Meire span them the same rose-tinted view of affairs here as she does when reporting to Roland.
There is delusion and delusion. Meire is taking it to a new level. There needs to be another word for it.
So after Varney published emails that really embarrassed the board and brought the fans together in huge protests, the board have at one point started more email correspondence with the same person and are now facing the exact same situation.
I still cannot believe that this woman is a qualified lawyer. Seriously, is it possible to fake certificates or are Belgian examinations easier ? She is just too dense.
So true, and remember her former University gave her a top award just months ago for her achievements as CEO at Charlton! Hardly a great advert for the prestigious KU Leuven University with its 600 year history. What were they thinking? No doubt Meire span them the same rose-tinted view of affairs here as she does when reporting to Roland.
There is delusion and delusion. Meire is taking it to a new level. There needs to be another word for it.
I think the word is Meirlusion (n) On top of the usual, idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder. This is compounded by giving an example that tries to give validity to any statement that is total bollox. The act of Meirlusion is done primarily at trade and press conferences.
Did Varney breach any confidentiality clauses when he published the emails in VOTV?
Why? All they were about was trying to arrange meetings and them constantly being cancelled etc by KM. Nothing confedential in that. If PV publishes recent communications about an actual offer, and it's details, I doubt then he'd be breaking any confedentiality as he is using them to refute lies told by KM and that can be avoided by KM retracting her remarks. She fails to do so then he publishes. Ball is firmly in her court. The outcome will be interesting.
I still cannot believe that this woman is a qualified lawyer. Seriously, is it possible to fake certificates or are Belgian examinations easier ? She is just too dense.
So true, and remember her former University gave her a top award just months ago for her achievements as CEO at Charlton! Hardly a great advert for the prestigious KU Leuven University with its 600 year history. What were they thinking? No doubt Meire span them the same rose-tinted view of affairs here as she does when reporting to Roland.
There is delusion and delusion. Meire is taking it to a new level. There needs to be another word for it.
I think the word is Meirlusion (n) On top of the usual, idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder. This is compounded by giving an example that tries to give validity to any statement that is total bollox. The act of Meirlusion is done primarily at trade and press conferences.
I just watched the press conference. Slade did come across well but both Meire and Murray looked anxious, tired, unwell, disheartened. Despite the brave (if formulaic) words, they are on the ropes. Meire seems to have aged 10 years since she came here. Christ, if they are rolling and reeling like that so early in the close season they are going to be in deep trouble when the protests kick off again - which they most certainly will.
I think it's so sad, this time of the year, I can't wait for the fixtures to come out, and think about the new players that hopefully will be coming in, but under this regime we just have madness, but Suggs would be a much better CEO. after yesterday as others have said, we must question Meire's sanity.
Possible watershed day or so. Meire either retracts - she won't - or claims she was misinterpreted - possible but not going to work - or Varney presses the issue. The worst case for fans is if nothing happens. She stays silent and Varney doesn't press home his demands for an apology or publishes the email trail.
If she has lied - and it has a whiff of being one of those things that are said to win people over and even as the words come out the speaker knows they are in shit - then hard to see how she can stay on.
I have to say it would be monumentally strange for her to say what she did if there is no proof.
Surely she is aware that the slightest contentious statement she makes is dissected and even twisted so she should know to be more guarded. But to say what she has said she MUST have some evidence or she has made a colossal error in judgement and that is highly likely to be the final straw.
As has already been said - I think this really is a watershed moment.
Has she deleted the news shopper report from google yet?
No first on the list. If you Google Images for her one of the first pictures up is the one showing her drawers, the one that gets posted on here from time to time until Looky takes it down (the picture not her drawers.) So it might be worth her while spending a bit of time getting things removed from there as well.
I think it's so sad, this time of the year, I can't wait for the fixtures to come out, and think about the new players that hopefully will be coming in, but under this regime we just have madness, but Suggs would be a much better CEO. after yesterday as others have said, we must question Meire's sanity.
Pass the blame and don't blame me,then i'll be gone and you'll forget
I have to say it would be monumentally strange for her to say what she did if there is no proof.
Surely she is aware that the slightest contentious statement she makes is dissected and even twisted so she should know to be more guarded. But to say what she has said she MUST have some evidence or she has made a colossal error in judgement and that is highly likely to be the final straw.
As has already been said - I think this really is a watershed moment.
I don't think there is a final straw. She's in a position where she can get away with whatever she likes. She made remarks comparing protesting Charlton fans with racist thugs, CAST report to the FA, and FA gets done, doesn't even seem to have been investigated.
She goes to events like the BT/Telegraph sports conference and effectively claims that she is doing a great running the club because of the work of the community trust (a separate entity which existed before she did). Again, when the MPs visited they were shown the work of the community trust, and may well have left being convinced that it was all a KM initiative that did not exist before she became CEO.
I feel KM's position is now similar in many ways to blatter - for the longest time nothing ever stuck to them and fear this may continue for the foreseeable future with Katrien
I think it's so sad, this time of the year, I can't wait for the fixtures to come out, and think about the new players that hopefully will be coming in, but under this regime we just have madness, but Suggs would be a much better CEO. after yesterday as others have said, we must question Meire's sanity.
IMO Meire has perhaps reached a kind of breaking point as evidenced by her 'populist' outburst. With very few exceptions no-one can handle being disliked by a large number of people and for this to be very public. For the cameras Meire just 'grins and bears it.'
But for me the desperate appeal to be seen to be on the fans side by claiming that Varney was going to take the club away from the Valley is a sign of desperation or her part.
OR JUST POSSIBLY
The idea for this statement came from RD himself as she says that Duchatelet didn't want the fans to be upset by this potential move if he sold up -or words to that effect.
She knows she has lost the fan base but given that she has shown no evidence before of engaging with fans I do wonder if indeed her comments were the words of Duchatelet coming from Katrien. We know he has interfered to defend her before (with the wierd/unique 'misunderstanding' thing). Did he tell her to say what she did to cast her in a different light?
Did he think it was two positives (the Slade appointment plus we have defended the Club against an unwanted move from The Valley?) I think it possible given the warped thinking which seems to pervade RD decision making.
Either way, and as others have eloquently commented this is a major PR disaster par excellence especially if it forces Meire and RD to try to back up their claim against Varney in public which it appears will be the case.
I have to say it would be monumentally strange for her to say what she did if there is no proof.
Surely she is aware that the slightest contentious statement she makes is dissected and even twisted so she should know to be more guarded. But to say what she has said she MUST have some evidence or she has made a colossal error in judgement and that is highly likely to be the final straw.
As has already been said - I think this really is a watershed moment.
I really don't think she is aware of that, she keeps putting her foot in it after all - there is just no rational explanation for her behaviour other than that she is monumentally stupid.
As for this being a watershed moment, I'm not even sure about that. By normal standards, her position has been untenable for months - she keeps doing and saying things that make her position a bit more untenable. I would say that her position has been untenable since Karel Fraeye's arrival, but she's just stuck around anyway making a bad situation worse and worse.
We are talking about a person who recently stood up at a Business in Sport Conference and told all those present that a freshly-relegated club, that is now on it's 7th manager/coach since she arrived, mock by local and national media, and who's "customers" have been protesting for the last half a season, should not be included in a list of clubs that were referred to as "badly run".
Stupid, deluded, psychotic, who know? Not expecting this latest humiliation to force her into seeing the error of her ways.
I have to say it would be monumentally strange for her to say what she did if there is no proof.
Surely she is aware that the slightest contentious statement she makes is dissected and even twisted so she should know to be more guarded. But to say what she has said she MUST have some evidence or she has made a colossal error in judgement and that is highly likely to be the final straw.
As has already been said - I think this really is a watershed moment.
I tend to agree, she really must have some evidence to back up what was a very public statement. If she hasn't then it really is crass incompetence, on a scale that is barely believable for a person in her position. My opinion for what it's worth is that Peter Varney will be telling the truth, and that he will be able to back anything he says with hard, irrefutable facts. If KM hasn't got any evidence to back her statement, she has definitely picked the wrong person to have an argument with, Peter simply does not lose this type of argument, he is simply to professional to to do so. "A watershed moment" very possibly and certainly should be.
I reckon nothing will happe from Katrien. Then Peter will publish some emails which Katrien will ignore. In a couple of months the issue will have been airbrushed off google.
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Look how nervous Katrien Meire gets when Roland Duchatelet is mentioned around the 18/19 minute mark.
She is just too dense.
She is just too dense.
There is delusion and delusion. Meire is taking it to a new level. There needs to be another word for it.
Only this regime...
Would be an excellent Non-exec director as would many other fans with commercial experience.
All that untapped talent going to waste because Katrien is afraid of having to deal with anyone who knows more than her.
Daisy the clock is still ticking.
after yesterday as others have said, we must question Meire's sanity.
If she has lied - and it has a whiff of being one of those things that are said to win people over and even as the words come out the speaker knows they are in shit - then hard to see how she can stay on.
Surely she is aware that the slightest contentious statement she makes is dissected and even twisted so she should know to be more guarded. But to say what she has said she MUST have some evidence or she has made a colossal error in judgement and that is highly likely to be the final straw.
As has already been said - I think this really is a watershed moment.
I don't think there is a final straw. She's in a position where she can get away with whatever she likes. She made remarks comparing protesting Charlton fans with racist thugs, CAST report to the FA, and FA gets done, doesn't even seem to have been investigated.
She goes to events like the BT/Telegraph sports conference and effectively claims that she is doing a great running the club because of the work of the community trust (a separate entity which existed before she did). Again, when the MPs visited they were shown the work of the community trust, and may well have left being convinced that it was all a KM initiative that did not exist before she became CEO.
Maybe that's how Roland see's her work as well?
But for me the desperate appeal to be seen to be on the fans side by claiming that Varney was going to take the club away from the Valley is a sign of desperation or her part.
OR JUST POSSIBLY
The idea for this statement came from RD himself as she says that Duchatelet didn't want the fans to be upset by this potential move if he sold up -or words to that effect.
She knows she has lost the fan base but given that she has shown no evidence before of engaging with fans I do wonder if indeed her comments were the words of Duchatelet coming from Katrien. We know he has interfered to defend her before (with the wierd/unique 'misunderstanding' thing). Did he tell her to say what she did to cast her in a different light?
Did he think it was two positives (the Slade appointment plus we have defended the Club against an unwanted move from The Valley?)
I think it possible given the warped thinking which seems to pervade RD decision making.
Either way, and as others have eloquently commented this is a major PR disaster par excellence especially if it forces Meire and RD to try to back up their claim against Varney in public which it appears will be the case.
As for this being a watershed moment, I'm not even sure about that. By normal standards, her position has been untenable for months - she keeps doing and saying things that make her position a bit more untenable. I would say that her position has been untenable since Karel Fraeye's arrival, but she's just stuck around anyway making a bad situation worse and worse.
We are talking about a person who recently stood up at a Business in Sport Conference and told all those present that a freshly-relegated club, that is now on it's 7th manager/coach since she arrived, mock by local and national media, and who's "customers" have been protesting for the last half a season, should not be included in a list of clubs that were referred to as "badly run".
Stupid, deluded, psychotic, who know? Not expecting this latest humiliation to force her into seeing the error of her ways.
If she hasn't then it really is crass incompetence, on a scale that is barely believable for a person in her position.
My opinion for what it's worth is that Peter Varney will be telling the truth, and that he will be able to back anything he says with hard, irrefutable facts.
If KM hasn't got any evidence to back her statement, she has definitely picked the wrong person to have an argument with, Peter simply does not lose this type of argument, he is simply to professional to to do so.
"A watershed moment" very possibly and certainly should be.