Assad Shad death
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Yes I have to say a rather astute judgement on your part - although in hindsight a relatively straightforward choice!se9addick said:GetOutOfMyClub said:
Muslims are more than 5% of uk Population. Official figures are very inaccurate. Muslim population will be Majority by 2035. Then its Sharia Law for us all to enjoy. If your not worried about this just look in the Koran. It doesn't matter about "vast majority being peaceful etc" - what matters is who controls the vast Majority. The vast Majority of Germans were not Nazis and look how that turned out ?bobmunro said:
Currently Muslims represent less than 5% of the UK population - the vast majority of which are peaceful law-abiding citizens.GetOutOfMyClub said:
Go to any Muslim country around the World and Minorities like Christians gays etc etc are violently persecuted. They have so many kids because the Bigger Picture/Plan is for Muslims to become the Majority in the UK then God help you if you are a Minority.Friend Or Defoe said:
Lack of contraceptives?GetOutOfMyClub said:Totally agree. this country is full of Libtards who refuse to see the danger of welcoming people with a political ideology which is hell bent on trying to destroy our values. Why do you think they have so many kids ?
What's your timeline for when they become the majority?
I knew I'd chosen wisely.1 -
I doubt very much if any Home Secretary would sanction his release, even after 27 years.cabbles said:
Yes Chizz but 27 years as a minimum is not enough for me.Chizz said:
But you know it's not a 27 year sentence don't you?cabbles said:My politics are very left leaning until it comes to justice and punishment, and in this case I mean punishment. 27 years isn't enough when you take a life for me.
I know why we don't have capital punishment in this country for good reason, but I hope this guy gets the living crap beaten out of him everyday of his life whilst behind bars.
It might sound barbaric but I think on the whole we let criminals off quite lightly in this country
It's a life sentence, with a minimum of 27 years to be served in prison.
Oh shit - hang on a minute. He'll be out in 19 years based on some fantastic statistical modelling already detailed on this thread - Sharia law will see to that.6 -
that isn't what i have said at all, the fact it was a religious attack was part of the prosecution.cafcnick1992 said:
Let religion off the hook againcafcdave123 said:I don't think they should bring religious leaders into it (any religion).
Nutty cunt gets 27 years for killing honest comunity shopkeeper .
Don't even let the prick try and put it in the name of religion
i was commenting on the fact that they get all these religious leaders in banging on about the prophet and anything against him is punishable by death blah blah, i am saying don't entertain the them. its all that shit that makes young impressionable muslims believe in all that shit rather than seeing that a nutter killed someone because he was a nutter.
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All things considered, does islam, in general, have a positive affect on Western Europe?1
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No.i_b_b_o_r_g said:All things considered, does islam, in general, have a positive affect on Western Europe?
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By the same token, does any organised religion in general currently have a positive effect on Western Europe?i_b_b_o_r_g said:All things considered, does islam, in general, have a positive affect on Western Europe?
Historically, it is clear that religions have been a mixed bag.
But I might suggest that, without the influence of Islam modern science and medicine would not be what they are today - because the influence of Islam is still being felt from medieval times.
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Unless you're a white male, England football fan, at which point it is perfectly acceptable (to many on here and the general population) to generalise and stereotype.NornIrishAddick said:
The worst possible way that we can react to a blinkered, narrow minded, monochrome world view, that seeks to expel those with whom it disagrees into the stygian darkness of the "other", is to mimic that view, by declaring that all Muslims, or Jews, Christians, atheists, people with tattoos, people without tattoos, etc., etc. cannot be trusted or are not part of "us" (I could be persuaded, however, regarding Palace fans). As a society, it is profoundly dangerous IMHO to perpetuate, or create, division by such crude measures.
Lets be honest in that people generalise and stereotype - it's life and it happens and always will and I'm sure everyone on here has done it at one time or another, probably without even realising.
We hear it all the time, about x professions, x religions, x football supporters, x Countries, x parents, x race's, x car model drivers, x political party, etc etc etc2 -
breXit votersThe Organiser said:
Unless you're a white male, England football fan, at which point it is perfectly acceptable (to many on here and the general population) to generalise and stereotype.NornIrishAddick said:
The worst possible way that we can react to a blinkered, narrow minded, monochrome world view, that seeks to expel those with whom it disagrees into the stygian darkness of the "other", is to mimic that view, by declaring that all Muslims, or Jews, Christians, atheists, people with tattoos, people without tattoos, etc., etc. cannot be trusted or are not part of "us" (I could be persuaded, however, regarding Palace fans). As a society, it is profoundly dangerous IMHO to perpetuate, or create, division by such crude measures.
Lets be honest in that people generalise and stereotype - it's life and it happens and always will and I'm sure everyone on here has done it at one time or another, probably without even realising.
We hear it all the time, about x professions, x religions, x football supporters, x Countries, x parents, x race's, x car model drivers, x political party, etc etc etc0 -
In response to NLAs post at 09.58 - He won't be put into a seperate unit with other extreme Muslim prisoners as they just don't exist. Even high risk Muslim's convicted of terrorist crimes are kept in the general population unless they are that disruptive or extreme radicalisers in which case they're segged away from every prisoner. It happens but its rare. I really can't see a time when HMPS opens seperate units for Muslim prisoners as that would give them what they want and if they ever do I certainly won't be putting myself forward to work there.1
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Is it true to say though @AddickUpNorth , that converts and Islamists can become radicalised/more radicalised when banged up for hours on end with each other? In the same way petty thieves can learn more tricks of the trade when inside?0
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It is.Greenie said:
What a great word.GetOutOfMyClub said:Totally agree. this country is full of Libtards who refuse to see the danger of welcoming people with a political ideology which is hell bent on trying to destroy our values. Why do you think they have so many kids ?
Not quite up there with cockwomble but quality nonetheless.
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@NornIrishAddick
Great post, but there it is also worth mentioning religions that are "compulsory" vs those that seek to attract followers.
Religions that are compulsory are effectively dictatorships -and we all know how the West feels about those !0 -
That's not all they can be indoctrinated into whilst being banged up together for hours.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Is it true to say though @AddickUpNorth , that converts and Islamists can become radicalised/more radicalised when banged up for hours on end with each other? In the same way petty thieves can learn more tricks of the trade when inside?
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Other than compulsory PE (by which I mean physical education classes, in case there could be any confusion) and, then, only if interesting and well taught, I'm firmly against compulsory anything.Valiantphil said:@NornIrishAddick
Great post, but there it is also worth mentioning religions that are "compulsory" vs those that seek to attract followers.
Religions that are compulsory are effectively dictatorships -and we all know how the West feels about those !
I want everyone to make up their own minds, and be themselves, not be defined by some form of group think/indoctrination.
The recognition (to say nothing of cherishing) in ourselves and others, of the humanity of each individual is the foundation, IMHO, of civilised values.0 -
A good game of mummy and daddyDaveMehmet said:
That's not all they can be indoctrinated into whilst being banged up together for hours.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Is it true to say though @AddickUpNorth , that converts and Islamists can become radicalised/more radicalised when banged up for hours on end with each other? In the same way petty thieves can learn more tricks of the trade when inside?
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Wow.
Shame I missed this one.
I find religions fascinating.
I find some of these views even more so.
How can people who know so little of something hold so much anger and hate for it.
I work with a gay muslim, his family all accepted it. Mother, Father and Brother.
I work with a gay christian, his mother was the only one to accept that he is gay.
His father now makes sure he is away when his son visits his mother.
His Rugby team all accepted him and in there you have a mix of most of the major religions.
Don't judge all religion on a % of nut jobs that follow a book to the letter.
Don't forget in the USA, especially the south they harbour a love for the old testament, the old ways and the strictness that they follow as 'God fearing' christians.
Why would a god of so much good want you to fear it? Why does it not want you to love it, cherish it and respect it?
To pick on in an aggressive manner any religion is foolish. We should remember that many people use religion to assist in their own agendas.
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You seem to work with a lot of gay people Daz. Do you work in media by any chance?Dazzler21 said:Wow.
Shame I missed this one.
I find religions fascinating.
I find some of these views even more so.
How can people who know so little of something hold so much anger and hate for it.
I work with a gay muslim, his family all accepted it. Mother, Father and Brother.
I work with a gay christian, his mother was the only one to accept that he is gay.
His father now makes sure he is away when his son visits his mother.
His Rugby team all accepted him and in there you have a mix of most of the major religions.
Don't judge all religion on a % of nut jobs that follow a book to the letter.
Don't forget in the USA, especially the south they harbour a love for the old testament, the old ways and the strictness that they follow as 'God fearing' christians.
Why would a god of so much good want you to fear it? Why does it not want you to love it, cherish it and respect it?
To pick on in an aggressive manner any religion is foolish. We should remember that many people use religion to assist in their own agendas.
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Hardly a representation of all Christians and all Muslims though is it mate.Dazzler21 said:Wow.
Shame I missed this one.
I work with a gay muslim, his family all accepted it. Mother, Father and Brother.
I work with a gay christian, his mother was the only one to accept that he is gay.
His father now makes sure he is away when his son visits his mother.0 -
Nah Financial services (well as a Business Analyst so I'm not really doing any Financial Services stuff).Brendan_O_Connell said:
You seem to work with a lot of gay people Daz. Do you work in media by any chance?Dazzler21 said:Wow.
Shame I missed this one.
I find religions fascinating.
I find some of these views even more so.
How can people who know so little of something hold so much anger and hate for it.
I work with a gay muslim, his family all accepted it. Mother, Father and Brother.
I work with a gay christian, his mother was the only one to accept that he is gay.
His father now makes sure he is away when his son visits his mother.
His Rugby team all accepted him and in there you have a mix of most of the major religions.
Don't judge all religion on a % of nut jobs that follow a book to the letter.
Don't forget in the USA, especially the south they harbour a love for the old testament, the old ways and the strictness that they follow as 'God fearing' christians.
Why would a god of so much good want you to fear it? Why does it not want you to love it, cherish it and respect it?
To pick on in an aggressive manner any religion is foolish. We should remember that many people use religion to assist in their own agendas.
But I do work with the User Experience team a fair bit and one of the gents is on that team.0 -
I know a nice one.Dazzler21 said:Wow.
Shame I missed this one.
I find religions fascinating.
I find some of these views even more so.
How can people who know so little of something hold so much anger and hate for it.
I work with a gay muslim, his family all accepted it. Mother, Father and Brother.
I work with a gay christian, his mother was the only one to accept that he is gay.
His father now makes sure he is away when his son visits his mother.
His Rugby team all accepted him and in there you have a mix of most of the major religions.
Don't judge all religion on a % of nut jobs that follow a book to the letter.
Don't forget in the USA, especially the south they harbour a love for the old testament, the old ways and the strictness that they follow as 'God fearing' christians.
Why would a god of so much good want you to fear it? Why does it not want you to love it, cherish it and respect it?
To pick on in an aggressive manner any religion is foolish. We should remember that many people use religion to assist in their own agendas.0 -
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Wasn't meant to be.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Hardly a representation of all Christians and all Muslims though is it mate.Dazzler21 said:Wow.
Shame I missed this one.
I work with a gay muslim, his family all accepted it. Mother, Father and Brother.
I work with a gay christian, his mother was the only one to accept that he is gay.
His father now makes sure he is away when his son visits his mother.
It was meant to prove that there is no ALL Christians or ALL Muslims.
It is more so how people interpret their religious books, their personal morals and whether or not they're going to be a dick over something that the person who 5 minutes ago they loved dearly cannot change... despite both those two big boy religions absolutely denouncing it.2 -
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i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Is it true to say though @AddickUpNorth , that converts and Islamists can become radicalised/more radicalised when banged up for hours on end with each other? In the same way petty thieves can learn more tricks of the trade when inside?
@i_b_b_o_r_g - undoubtedly mate and it's a problem that shouldn't be underestimated. There are arch manipulators amongst the Islamic terrorists who are very adept at convincing others to take on a more fundamental approach to Islam. Some buy into it (often you'll find white converts are especially open to it) whilst others not so much but still want to be part of the biggest gang in the system (it's better to be protected than at risk). Some convert out of fear and when you speak to them one-to-one they admit that when they get out the mosque isn't the first place they're heading. It's usually the pub or a brothel.
If (when) there's an Islamist terrorist attack it would not surprise me at all to find the perpetrators have at some time served time in an English prison.1 -
Camp Bucca prison in Iraq is seen as the birthplace of ISIS and became know as the ISIS university.0
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A libtard is what Vince Cable wears when he goes to his gymnastics class.AddicksAddict said:
I don't even know what a Libtard is, but as I read The Guardian and don't hate people because of the colour of their skin or their religion (even though I think anyone who believes in a religion is a bit of a fantasist and I have a lot of issues with most organised religions), I guess I'd qualify?se9addick said:
That means so much to me, and I accept the honour of being a Libtard, I humbly do.GetOutOfMyClub said:
Absolute Gold I've never noticed you before @se9addick but you are my favourite Left wing/Libtard nut job who refuses to recognise the danger of seeing Islam for what it is.se9addick said:
Absolute gold. I've never noticed you before @GetOutOfMyClub but your my new favourite right wing nut job poster. Apologies to all the other very worthy candidates, many of whom are making strong entries on this thread.GetOutOfMyClub said:
Go to any Muslim country around the World and Minorities like Christians gays etc etc are violently persecuted. They have so many kids because the Bigger Picture/Plan is for Muslims to become the Majority in the UK then God help you if you are a Minority.Friend Or Defoe said:
Lack of contraceptives?GetOutOfMyClub said:Totally agree. this country is full of Libtards who refuse to see the danger of welcoming people with a political ideology which is hell bent on trying to destroy our values. Why do you think they have so many kids ?
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I just find it very disturbing that a Muslim bloke and his family who try to integrate gets murdered.
That and he can have like minded people cheering in the public gallery of a British courtroom.
I would like to see Muslim groups make a stance, but maybe they are shit scared of the reprocessions.
I genuinely think the last sentence is correct.
So where does that leave us?0 -
They have condemned it.Robbo on the wing said:I just find it very disturbing that a Muslim bloke and his family who try to integrate gets murdered.
That and he can have like minded people cheering in the public gallery of a British courtroom.
I would like to see Muslim groups make a stance, but maybe they are shit scared of the reprocessions.
I genuinely think the last sentence is correct.
So where does that leave us?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/07/muslim-leaders-urged-to-condemn-statement-by-man-accused-of-asad/0 -
Everyone is missing the point here. He will only serve 19 of those 27 years.
Surely, the new Sharia Judges will release him in 2035 as a martyr?1 -
Addickted said:
Everyone is missing the point here. He will only serve 19 of those 27 years.
Surely, the new Sharia Judges will release him in 2035 as a martyr?
No, it's a life sentence with a minimum tariff of twenty seven years which means he'll have to serve twenty seven years before he's considered for parole. In my experience not many lifers get parole at the first attempt. I know some lifers who are twenty years over tariff.1 -
Fortunately you're not the sole arbiter of what posts are made on here. I can't think of any reason for you to post such an unpleasant, rude and ill-mannered post. If you don't agree with a post, explain why. There's no need and no reason to post something like that.ValleyGary said:
Wanky even for youChizz said:Absolutely appalling that a Pakistani immigrant who had fled persecution and settled in this country has been murdered for his belief. Our country should be better than this. It should be a safe, respectful place for anyone, no matter what race, religion, colour or gender. RIP.
The British perpetrator of this hideous crime deserves every day if his life sentence.1
