Letters From Club - Agreed Behavioural Contracts ????
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Perhaps CARD should draw up an ABC for club representatives? With better spelling.7
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Does anyone know what the comments were, by any chance? A long shot but thought it would be worth asking.0
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Just told my boss who supports Millwall, he was actually angry about it, an utter debacle.1
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Take it this fella will now have his season ticket terminated for posting the letter on twitter.1
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One example from the appalling letter. Refers to something, bothers to abbreviate it, and then never mentions it again. What a total tool.Addicted said:Perhaps CARD should draw up an ABC for club representatives? With better spelling.
Edited to add: still we now have his email address.1 -
I thought that but then think of the backlash when the letter informing him of that was put on Twitter etc.Johnhumphrey said:Take it this fella will now have his season ticket terminated for posting the letter on twitter.
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I've also only just seen through this on Twitter that Katrien has been appointed to represent the EFL on the FA Council too...0
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Anyone else feel like emailing Cliff?0
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In isolation, agree no big deal, but this is the latest in a long line of own goals by the owners of the club, aside from the carnage they have caused on the pitch. More worrying is that this is a the thin end of the wedge. Someone has clearly taken a decision that this is a good way ahead. I cannot help but suspect that, emboldened by this, they will become more bullish about issuing what could become banning orders for critical comment/chanting etc.Essex_Al said:Wahey! Let's all get excited and stamp our feet and post pages and pages of bullshit!
One letter was sent to a season ticket purchaser, whom the club has identified as posting inflammatory statements on a social media website. None of you know the background to this letter, it may also have been complaints by other season ticket holders from last year.
He's been granted his ticket, but called in for a little chat, big deal!
Still, you carry on chaps, don't let anything get in the way of slagging the club off again will you!
The daft thing is this was never going to end well. While they might have been able to ban one fan had he not agreed to their terms, identifying most people on forums etc would be a huge task and an almost impossible one. Weight that against the likely avalanche of negative publicity that this will produce, and it's simply not a good idea.3 -
The point is that they made it publicEssex_Al said:Wahey! Let's all get excited and stamp our feet and post pages and pages of bullshit!
One letter was sent to a season ticket purchaser, whom the club has identified as posting inflammatory statements on a social media website. None of you know the background to this letter, it may also have been complaints by other season ticket holders from last year.
He's been granted his ticket, but called in for a little chat, big deal!
Still, you carry on chaps, don't let anything get in the way of slagging the club off again will you!0 -
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Oooo, crushing punishment.Johnhumphrey said:Take it this fella will now have his season ticket terminated for posting the letter on twitter.
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I suggest we all email cliff.eager@cafc.co.uk and very politely ask what we are and are not allowed to say and if there are any other conditions attached to season ticket, or even walk-up ticket, purchase that they will only tell us about after we have paid. That should keep him occupied all day. Oh, and Cliff, my surname's not really Mogodonman before you check the database ...4
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In isolation, as a one off incident? No, not a big deal.Essex_Al said:
Henry, I know I am an easy target because I see things differently to others, but you're a sensible chap, one letter has been sent to one fan asking for a chat about his/her behaviour for the coming season, is it really such a big deal?Henry Irving said:
Is there anything that this regime has or could do that you won't defend or dismiss as unimportant?Essex_Al said:Wahey! Let's all get excited and stamp our feet and post pages and pages of bullshit!
One letter was sent to a season ticket purchaser, whom the club has identified as posting inflammatory statements on a social media website. None of you know the background to this letter, it may also have been complaints by other season ticket holders from last year.
He's been granted his ticket, but called in for a little chat, big deal!
Still, you carry on chaps, don't let anything get in the way of slagging the club off again will you!
And no one is attacking "the club". We love the club because we are "the club". We're attacking the regime that is hurting our club daily.
When taken into account with all the other stupid, disrespectful, provocative actions and comments, on and off the field over the past eighteen months or so, yes, it is a big deal. If you really cannot understand that I despair of you Al.9 -
They can't do that if all he did was just put pic up of the letter on Twitter, it would be like just saying, thanks for letting everyone else know how shit we are, its your fault where shit and showing everyone. Plus, it's been mentioned he didn't sign a ABC contract.Johnhumphrey said:Take it this fella will now have his season ticket terminated for posting the letter on twitter.
If there is at least one other letter, then the recipients details are edited with red.
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So if CL admin said "unless your going to say what the bigger % on here believe, you will be banned" that would be OK with you, would it?Essex_Al said:Wahey! Let's all get excited and stamp our feet and post pages and pages of bullshit!
One letter was sent to a season ticket purchaser, whom the club has identified as posting inflammatory statements on a social media website. None of you know the background to this letter, it may also have been complaints by other season ticket holders from last year.
He's been granted his ticket, but called in for a little chat, big deal!
Still, you carry on chaps, don't let anything get in the way of slagging the club off again will you!
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No, they want to really punish him. He'll be forced to pledge attendance at all home match until the owner sells.Johnhumphrey said:Take it this fella will now have his season ticket terminated for posting the letter on twitter.
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Wow. It's blown up on Twitter - I'm seeing tweets from people I follow for all sorts of reasons.2
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There's none so blind.............,,Algarveaddick said:
In isolation, as a one off incident? No, not a big deal.Essex_Al said:
Henry, I know I am an easy target because I see things differently to others, but you're a sensible chap, one letter has been sent to one fan asking for a chat about his/her behaviour for the coming season, is it really such a big deal?Henry Irving said:
Is there anything that this regime has or could do that you won't defend or dismiss as unimportant?Essex_Al said:Wahey! Let's all get excited and stamp our feet and post pages and pages of bullshit!
One letter was sent to a season ticket purchaser, whom the club has identified as posting inflammatory statements on a social media website. None of you know the background to this letter, it may also have been complaints by other season ticket holders from last year.
He's been granted his ticket, but called in for a little chat, big deal!
Still, you carry on chaps, don't let anything get in the way of slagging the club off again will you!
And no one is attacking "the club". We love the club because we are "the club". We're attacking the regime that is hurting our club daily.
When taken into account with all the other stupid, disrespectful, provocative actions and comments, on and off the field over the past eighteen months or so, yes, it is a big deal. If you really cannot understand that I despair of you Al.
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Also worth asking him what grade he got in his GCSE English language. Then pointing him in the direction of adult literacy classes.mogodon said:I suggest we all email cliff.eager@cafc.co.uk and very politely ask what we are and are not allowed to say and if there are any other conditions attached to season ticket, or even walk-up ticket, purchase that they will only tell us about after we have paid. That should keep him occupied all day. Oh, and Cliff, my surname's not really Mogodonman before you check the database ...
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Essex Al
It is not a question of stamping of feet is a matter of freedom of speech.
Heaven help the elderly people you serve if that is your attitude to their civil rights.
In the name of god's green earth who in their right mind would seek to impose direct control over anybody's freedom of speech.
If they deem the action of the individual as an incitement to breach the law the club has full remedy under the law to prosecute the individual for such act.
You would like to think an ex senior police officer would know that. He should resign.
The remedy is simple you either enter into the contract of sale or reject it. Any trading organisation has the right to serve or reject a client.
That however does not give the right to impose a social contract over what any individual thinks or says or writes.
If I were a club sponsor named at the foot of the letter I would withdraw my sponsorship without delay and demand an apology from the club for associating my brand with such a communication.
I personally would refuse to have my name associated with any organisation who could abuse my brand with such a contemptible initiative.
What next? Are we going to have stewards walking around the ground, in the queues outside, in the local pubs and clubs with phones spying on supporters and recording people's conversations?
The communication is appalling. That anyone would seek to justify it is completely beyond comprehension.
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It has plod-speak written all over it. It's either genuine or a spoof by another plod. Eg. "yourself" rather than "you".colthe3rd said:
I think this is quite important tbf.liamhappe said:Does anyone know what the comments were, by any chance? A long shot but thought it would be worth asking.
Also no one has answered, do we know this is absolutely genuine?0 -
Airman's post above corroborates it as a genuine letter.2
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Just seen it tweeted by this guy, who tweets purely politics and.. well.. this is how much he cares about football:
People are jumping on this on Twitter purely because of the censorship angle, this has backfired immensely on the club. When people who don't give a shit about the sport are jumping on the situation then you know it really is ridiculous, and it's not just the "negative nancies" and it's not just Charlton Fans.
Someone must be pretty embarrassed right now.4 -
Can't get over how muggy it is to send a threatening letter to one of the 3 people who have actually bought a season ticket this season.
If we're customers, where is the customer service? #c**ts2 -
A classic case of the Striesland effect... by trying to shut out the social media negativity they have poured petrol on the fire.3
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It wouldn't be a forum without people having different views, more like sheepdog trials. If the moderators feel that me having an alternate viewpoint is worth a ban then so be it.T.C.E said:
So if CL admin said "unless your going to say what the bigger % on here believe, you will be banned" that would be OK with you, would it?Essex_Al said:Wahey! Let's all get excited and stamp our feet and post pages and pages of bullshit!
One letter was sent to a season ticket purchaser, whom the club has identified as posting inflammatory statements on a social media website. None of you know the background to this letter, it may also have been complaints by other season ticket holders from last year.
He's been granted his ticket, but called in for a little chat, big deal!
Still, you carry on chaps, don't let anything get in the way of slagging the club off again will you!
But that still wouldn't stop me from have a pre-match drink with AFKA, Elfsborg, Linsaddick etc. at the end of the day we are all fans!
You should hear some of the abuse I get from Elfsborg, but we are still mates!2 -
Apparently Cliff Eager has apologised to Slade about the letter so it's all OK now.46
