He is like the mouthy kid in the class that was able to constantly wind up the teacher, but he found a way to do it to a nation. He has sailed as close to the wind as he could and crossed lines, but he will continue to have followers after this conviction. He has been able to inspire others to participate in awful crimes whilst staying clear of trouble himself. His rhetoric hasn't been defeated by this conviction but lives on, and it is the rhetoric that needs to be challenged and ultimately defeated. This conviction is not really a victory but it certainly is a step in the right direction.
I don't think he should be executed but accidentally putting him in the same wing as, say, a bunch of EDL knuckle-draggers, and turning a blind eye to anything that happens would not be out of order.
I don't think he should be executed but accidentally putting him in the same wing as, say, a bunch of EDL knuckle-draggers, and turning a blind eye to anything that happens would not be out of order.
I'm sure something like this will happen at some point. I get that guys in for similar offences are put together but i'm sure i read a while back that one of Lee Rigby's killers had some of his teeth knocked out in an attack so they're obviously not isolated all the time.
Hopefully he will get the ten years maximum and then after serving nine years twelve months he comes out as sad old man pushing sixty years of age realising his life has be a wasted opportunity. One where he could have done some real good for the world.
I don't think he should be executed but accidentally putting him in the same wing as, say, a bunch of EDL knuckle-draggers, and turning a blind eye to anything that happens would not be out of order.
I'm sure something like this will happen at some point. I get that guys in for similar offences are put together but i'm sure i read a while back that one of Lee Rigby's killers had some of his teeth knocked out in an attack so they're obviously not isolated all the time.
His teeth got knocked out after he kicked off and had to be restrained by officers. Officers who had to wait months to be cleared of any wrongdoing.
I don't think he should be executed but accidentally putting him in the same wing as, say, a bunch of EDL knuckle-draggers, and turning a blind eye to anything that happens would not be out of order.
Unlikely. He'll be protected by like minded individuals and they form the biggest gang in the system. He may get done but whoever does it will be segregated for his/their own protection. The Muslim boys tend to have long memories.
I don't think he should be executed but accidentally putting him in the same wing as, say, a bunch of EDL knuckle-draggers, and turning a blind eye to anything that happens would not be out of order.
Unlikely. He'll be protected by like minded individuals and they form the biggest gang in the system. He may get done but whoever does it will be segregated for his/their own protection. The Muslim boys tend to have long memories.
The Great British Justice system ladies & gentleman.
He's off the streets. That's a result for all of us. He will have plenty of time to reflect and zero influence on anyone. For him I think that's going to be quite a punishment. I hope his time really drags.
10 years in one of our cushy prisons where he can brainwash weak minded criminals. Great!
that's the problem. out on the streets a lot of his followers were weak minded and recently converted to the muslim faith, most converted by choudary himself. making it easier for him to spout his hatred to them without them being experienced or knowledgeable enough in the faith to see through his bitterness and lies. I'm sure there will be some in prison who are bitter and looking for someone other than themselves to blame and can be easily manipulated and influenced in believing the vile nonsense that is part of his rhetoric.
I don't think he should be executed but accidentally putting him in the same wing as, say, a bunch of EDL knuckle-draggers, and turning a blind eye to anything that happens would not be out of order.
Maybe he could take a few of them down too, by that logic
10 years in one of our cushy prisons where he can brainwash weak minded criminals. Great!
that's the problem. out on the streets a lot of his followers were weak minded and recently converted to the muslim faith, most converted by choudary himself. making it easier for him to spout his hatred to them without them being experienced or knowledgeable enough in the faith to see through his bitterness and lies. I'm sure there will be some in prison who are bitter and looking for someone other than themselves to blame and can be easily manipulated and influenced in believing the vial nonsense that is part of his rhetoric.
He will be kept segregated from the general Muslim prison population. Will have zero influence on anyone who isn't already convicted for similar crimes. I'm sure he will spend wasted time in correspondence with his lawyers but won't be able to spread his hate.
It will I'm glad to say seem a very long sentence for someone like him.
I think if we sent these people to live in the Islamic State with no right of return they might start to think twice. How many of us when given the choice of living the way they live or being in prison would chose the latter?
I don't think he should be executed but accidentally putting him in the same wing as, say, a bunch of EDL knuckle-draggers, and turning a blind eye to anything that happens would not be out of order.
Maybe he could take a few of them down too, by that logic
Well it's a win-win then, although I suspect he's a lover, not a fighter.
He should not have had the right to appear in front of a jury. Just thrown in prison with no right for a trial. If I had been on the jury I would not have even listened to the defence. He hasn't got one.
10 years in one of our cushy prisons where he can brainwash weak minded criminals. Great!
that's the problem. out on the streets a lot of his followers were weak minded and recently converted to the muslim faith, most converted by choudary himself. making it easier for him to spout his hatred to them without them being experienced or knowledgeable enough in the faith to see through his bitterness and lies. I'm sure there will be some in prison who are bitter and looking for someone other than themselves to blame and can be easily manipulated and influenced in believing the vial nonsense that is part of his rhetoric.
He will be kept segregated from the general Muslim prison population. Will have zero influence on anyone who isn't already convicted for similar crimes. I'm sure he will spend wasted time in correspondence with his lawyers but won't be able to spread his hate.
It will I'm glad to say seem a very long sentence for someone like him.
10 years in one of our cushy prisons where he can brainwash weak minded criminals. Great!
that's the problem. out on the streets a lot of his followers were weak minded and recently converted to the muslim faith, most converted by choudary himself. making it easier for him to spout his hatred to them without them being experienced or knowledgeable enough in the faith to see through his bitterness and lies. I'm sure there will be some in prison who are bitter and looking for someone other than themselves to blame and can be easily manipulated and influenced in believing the vial nonsense that is part of his rhetoric.
He will be kept segregated from the general Muslim prison population. Will have zero influence on anyone who isn't already convicted for similar crimes. I'm sure he will spend wasted time in correspondence with his lawyers but won't be able to spread his hate.
It will I'm glad to say seem a very long sentence for someone like him.
Out of interest is that a matter of fact?
I'm sure he will not be allowed to fraternise with other general inmates. Kept along with other "radicals" much in the same way that sex offenders are kept separate.
He believes Mohammed flew to heaven on a winged horse and cut the moon in half. As does the Mayor of London.
I cannot believe that a British politican can get away with stating something like that!! Did no-one challenge him when he he said it?
I think you can find something that makes people of any religion seem ridiculous! A bit unfair on the Mayor of London.
Raised as a Roman Catholic I have some doubts about the bible, strangely enough. I'd be interested to see the statement he made about winged horses though.
10 years in one of our cushy prisons where he can brainwash weak minded criminals. Great!
that's the problem. out on the streets a lot of his followers were weak minded and recently converted to the muslim faith, most converted by choudary himself. making it easier for him to spout his hatred to them without them being experienced or knowledgeable enough in the faith to see through his bitterness and lies. I'm sure there will be some in prison who are bitter and looking for someone other than themselves to blame and can be easily manipulated and influenced in believing the vial nonsense that is part of his rhetoric.
He will be kept segregated from the general Muslim prison population. Will have zero influence on anyone who isn't already convicted for similar crimes. I'm sure he will spend wasted time in correspondence with his lawyers but won't be able to spread his hate.
It will I'm glad to say seem a very long sentence for someone like him.
Out of interest is that a matter of fact?
As it stands, no. There have been discussions around how to combat the rise of radicalisation in prisons but nothing has actually been implemented.
Mr Choudary will be freely mixing with the general population until such a time that the authorities agree to keep his ilk on their own wing much in the same way that nonces are.
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He has sailed as close to the wind as he could and crossed lines, but he will continue to have followers after this conviction. He has been able to inspire others to participate in awful crimes whilst staying clear of trouble himself.
His rhetoric hasn't been defeated by this conviction but lives on, and it is the rhetoric that needs to be challenged and ultimately defeated.
This conviction is not really a victory but it certainly is a step in the right direction.
Perhaps dropped out of a plane over Raqqa, with the answer to his final question being 'Parachute? What parachute?'
His teeth got knocked out after he kicked off and had to be restrained by officers. Officers who had to wait months to be cleared of any wrongdoing.
Unlikely. He'll be protected by like minded individuals and they form the biggest gang in the system. He may get done but whoever does it will be segregated for his/their own protection. The Muslim boys tend to have long memories.
I'm sure there will be some in prison who are bitter and looking for someone other than themselves to blame and can be easily manipulated and influenced in believing the vile nonsense that is part of his rhetoric.
It will I'm glad to say seem a very long sentence for someone like him.
Mr Choudary will be freely mixing with the general population until such a time that the authorities agree to keep his ilk on their own wing much in the same way that nonces are.