10 years in one of our cushy prisons where he can brainwash weak minded criminals. Great!
that's the problem. out on the streets a lot of his followers were weak minded and recently converted to the muslim faith, most converted by choudary himself. making it easier for him to spout his hatred to them without them being experienced or knowledgeable enough in the faith to see through his bitterness and lies. I'm sure there will be some in prison who are bitter and looking for someone other than themselves to blame and can be easily manipulated and influenced in believing the vial nonsense that is part of his rhetoric.
He will be kept segregated from the general Muslim prison population. Will have zero influence on anyone who isn't already convicted for similar crimes. I'm sure he will spend wasted time in correspondence with his lawyers but won't be able to spread his hate.
It will I'm glad to say seem a very long sentence for someone like him.
Out of interest is that a matter of fact?
As it stands, no. There have been discussions around how to combat the rise of radicalisation in prisons but nothing has actually been implemented.
Mr Choudary will be freely mixing with the general population until such a time that the authorities agree to keep his ilk on their own wing much in the same way that nonces are.
10 years in one of our cushy prisons where he can brainwash weak minded criminals. Great!
that's the problem. out on the streets a lot of his followers were weak minded and recently converted to the muslim faith, most converted by choudary himself. making it easier for him to spout his hatred to them without them being experienced or knowledgeable enough in the faith to see through his bitterness and lies. I'm sure there will be some in prison who are bitter and looking for someone other than themselves to blame and can be easily manipulated and influenced in believing the vial nonsense that is part of his rhetoric.
He will be kept segregated from the general Muslim prison population. Will have zero influence on anyone who isn't already convicted for similar crimes. I'm sure he will spend wasted time in correspondence with his lawyers but won't be able to spread his hate.
It will I'm glad to say seem a very long sentence for someone like him.
Out of interest is that a matter of fact?
As it stands, no. There have been discussions around how to combat the rise of radicalisation in prisons but nothing has actually been implemented.
Mr Choudary will be freely mixing with the general population until such a time that the authorities agree to keep his ilk on their own wing much in the same way that nonces are.
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
10 years in one of our cushy prisons where he can brainwash weak minded criminals. Great!
that's the problem. out on the streets a lot of his followers were weak minded and recently converted to the muslim faith, most converted by choudary himself. making it easier for him to spout his hatred to them without them being experienced or knowledgeable enough in the faith to see through his bitterness and lies. I'm sure there will be some in prison who are bitter and looking for someone other than themselves to blame and can be easily manipulated and influenced in believing the vial nonsense that is part of his rhetoric.
He will be kept segregated from the general Muslim prison population. Will have zero influence on anyone who isn't already convicted for similar crimes. I'm sure he will spend wasted time in correspondence with his lawyers but won't be able to spread his hate.
It will I'm glad to say seem a very long sentence for someone like him.
Out of interest is that a matter of fact?
As it stands, no. There have been discussions around how to combat the rise of radicalisation in prisons but nothing has actually been implemented.
Mr Choudary will be freely mixing with the general population until such a time that the authorities agree to keep his ilk on their own wing much in the same way that nonces are.
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
he did and he said he wants it taught in all london schools, also said that even non muslim girls should wear the burka out of respect.
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
he did and he said he wants it taught in all london schools, also said that even non muslim girls should wear the burka out of respect.
...and that his dad's was a bus driver, he was bought up on a rough council estate and went to a local comprehensive school
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
he did and he said he wants it taught in all london schools, also said that even non muslim girls should wear the burka out of respect.
When and where did he say those things? First I've heard of it.
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
he did and he said he wants it taught in all london schools, also said that even non muslim girls should wear the burka out of respect.
When and where did he say those things? First I've heard of it.
it was either when he first became mayor at his exceptance or i completely made it all up, my memory isnt what it was...
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
he did and he said he wants it taught in all london schools, also said that even non muslim girls should wear the burka out of respect.
When and where did he say those things? First I've heard of it.
He told Dave in private, over 2 pie and 2 mash with plenty of liquor, oh and that's the new Mayors 2nd favourite meal, with spotted dick to folla
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
he did and he said he wants it taught in all london schools, also said that even non muslim girls should wear the burka out of respect.
When and where did he say those things? First I've heard of it.
it was either when he first became mayor at his exceptance or i completely made it all up, my memory isnt what it was...
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
It's no different to Christians believing Jesus rose from the dead or fed 5000 people with a tin of sardines and a sliced loaf.
I think what the original comment was getting at is that the Mayor is Muslim and therefore believes this 'miracle' actually happened.
There are different explanations for the miracle. One of which is that the moon has never been split in half but will be come the day of judgement.
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
he did and he said he wants it taught in all london schools, also said that even non muslim girls should wear the burka out of respect.
When and where did he say those things? First I've heard of it.
it was either when he first became mayor at his exceptance or i completely made it all up, my memory isnt what it was...
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
he did and he said he wants it taught in all london schools, also said that even non muslim girls should wear the burka out of respect.
When and where did he say those things? First I've heard of it.
it was either when he first became mayor at his exceptance or i completely made it all up, my memory isnt what it was...
Let me help you. You made it up.
you sure, that doesn't sound like something i would do
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
he did and he said he wants it taught in all london schools, also said that even non muslim girls should wear the burka out of respect.
When and where did he say those things? First I've heard of it.
it was either when he first became mayor at his exceptance or i completely made it all up, my memory isnt what it was...
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
he did and he said he wants it taught in all london schools, also said that even non muslim girls should wear the burka out of respect.
When and where did he say those things? First I've heard of it.
it was either when he first became mayor at his exceptance or i completely made it all up, my memory isnt what it was...
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
he did and he said he wants it taught in all london schools, also said that even non muslim girls should wear the burka out of respect.
When and where did he say those things? First I've heard of it.
it was either when he first became mayor at his exceptance or i completely made it all up, my memory isnt what it was...
10 years in one of our cushy prisons where he can brainwash weak minded criminals. Great!
that's the problem. out on the streets a lot of his followers were weak minded and recently converted to the muslim faith, most converted by choudary himself. making it easier for him to spout his hatred to them without them being experienced or knowledgeable enough in the faith to see through his bitterness and lies. I'm sure there will be some in prison who are bitter and looking for someone other than themselves to blame and can be easily manipulated and influenced in believing the vial nonsense that is part of his rhetoric.
He will be kept segregated from the general Muslim prison population. Will have zero influence on anyone who isn't already convicted for similar crimes. I'm sure he will spend wasted time in correspondence with his lawyers but won't be able to spread his hate.
It will I'm glad to say seem a very long sentence for someone like him.
Out of interest is that a matter of fact?
I'm sure he will not be allowed to fraternise with other general inmates. Kept along with other "radicals" much in the same way that sex offenders are kept separate.
Yet @AddickUpNorth suggests otherwise and he works in a prison!
I think we need to recognise their influence and create a separate facility where they can be locked up with like minded criminals rather than recruit further naive individuals.
my mates other half works in belmarsh so can only vouch for there, but any convicts that are serving for this type of crime are put together same rules as nonces, obvs there sectioned for there own safety but the extremists are segretgated so they cant get followers.
I think we need to recognise their influence and create a separate facility where they can be locked up with like minded criminals rather than recruit further naive individuals.
my mates other half works in belmarsh so can only vouch for there, but any convicts that are serving for this type of crime are put together same rules as nonces, obvs there sectioned for there own safety but the extremists are segretgated so they cant get followers.
Well it seems opinion differs ?
My uncle's friend's chicken told me to trust first hand sources, so I'll stick to that!
10 years in one of our cushy prisons where he can brainwash weak minded criminals. Great!
that's the problem. out on the streets a lot of his followers were weak minded and recently converted to the muslim faith, most converted by choudary himself. making it easier for him to spout his hatred to them without them being experienced or knowledgeable enough in the faith to see through his bitterness and lies. I'm sure there will be some in prison who are bitter and looking for someone other than themselves to blame and can be easily manipulated and influenced in believing the vial nonsense that is part of his rhetoric.
He will be kept segregated from the general Muslim prison population. Will have zero influence on anyone who isn't already convicted for similar crimes. I'm sure he will spend wasted time in correspondence with his lawyers but won't be able to spread his hate.
It will I'm glad to say seem a very long sentence for someone like him.
Out of interest is that a matter of fact?
I'm sure he will not be allowed to fraternise with other general inmates. Kept along with other "radicals" much in the same way that sex offenders are kept separate.
Yet @AddickUpNorth suggests otherwise and he works in a prison!
He doesn't work in a prison, he is in prison!
He is segregated on a wing with all the other scum that broke the terms of their ABC
10 years in one of our cushy prisons where he can brainwash weak minded criminals. Great!
that's the problem. out on the streets a lot of his followers were weak minded and recently converted to the muslim faith, most converted by choudary himself. making it easier for him to spout his hatred to them without them being experienced or knowledgeable enough in the faith to see through his bitterness and lies. I'm sure there will be some in prison who are bitter and looking for someone other than themselves to blame and can be easily manipulated and influenced in believing the vial nonsense that is part of his rhetoric.
He will be kept segregated from the general Muslim prison population. Will have zero influence on anyone who isn't already convicted for similar crimes. I'm sure he will spend wasted time in correspondence with his lawyers but won't be able to spread his hate.
It will I'm glad to say seem a very long sentence for someone like him.
Out of interest is that a matter of fact?
I'm sure he will not be allowed to fraternise with other general inmates. Kept along with other "radicals" much in the same way that sex offenders are kept separate.
Yet @AddickUpNorth suggests otherwise and he works in a prison!
@Stu_of_Kunming Indeed I have, I'm in my eleventh year of working at the coal face of a High Security prison. It's my experience that suggests Shooters is wrong. There is no policy that separates Islamic terrorists from the general population. I have met some very committed individuals who have been convicted of planning extreme terrorist acts in the name of Islam. I have unlocked them alongside multi-million pound drug importers, gangland executioners, common or garden murderers, armed blaggers etc. The prison service doesn't want to legitimise their cause by putting them in separate units. Of course, for GOAD (Good Order and Discipline) there may be times when individuals are segregated for the good of the prison and I have seen that with a few individuals who are seen as too disruptive, too influential to be left to spread their rhetoric but this is unusually rare. It's worth remembering that the majority of IRA prisoners were located in general population at a time when officers would check under their cars before leaving work. Old Anjem will probably be kept separate for a while but I have no doubt he'll be tested in normal location at some point. How that pans out will be entirely down to him.
10 years in one of our cushy prisons where he can brainwash weak minded criminals. Great!
that's the problem. out on the streets a lot of his followers were weak minded and recently converted to the muslim faith, most converted by choudary himself. making it easier for him to spout his hatred to them without them being experienced or knowledgeable enough in the faith to see through his bitterness and lies. I'm sure there will be some in prison who are bitter and looking for someone other than themselves to blame and can be easily manipulated and influenced in believing the vial nonsense that is part of his rhetoric.
He will be kept segregated from the general Muslim prison population. Will have zero influence on anyone who isn't already convicted for similar crimes. I'm sure he will spend wasted time in correspondence with his lawyers but won't be able to spread his hate.
It will I'm glad to say seem a very long sentence for someone like him.
Out of interest is that a matter of fact?
I'm sure he will not be allowed to fraternise with other general inmates. Kept along with other "radicals" much in the same way that sex offenders are kept separate.
Yet @AddickUpNorth suggests otherwise and he works in a prison!
He doesn't work in a prison, he is in prison!
He is segregated on a wing with all the other scum that broke the terms of their ABC
Shhh don't tell everyone. I had to smuggle the phone I'm typing this on up my 'arris. If the screws find out I'll be wrapped up and down the seg.
A lot of vicars and priests don't believe every word of the bible. The same goes for muslims and the Koran. Fundamentalists take everything literally. It is an issue that muslims have to address though because we definitely have more issues around muslim fundamentalism than christian fundamentalism!
Winged horses though, cutting the moon in half! I don't can't believe the mayor of London said that!
he did and he said he wants it taught in all london schools, also said that even non muslim girls should wear the burka out of respect.
When and where did he say those things? First I've heard of it.
it was either when he first became mayor at his exceptance or i completely made it all up, my memory isnt what it was...
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don'tcan't believe the mayor of London said that!I think what the original comment was getting at is that the Mayor is Muslim and therefore believes this 'miracle' actually happened.
There are different explanations for the miracle. One of which is that the moon has never been split in half but will be come the day of judgement.
Proper batshit if you ask me.
He is segregated on a wing with all the other scum that broke the terms of their ABC
Which means 4 years 6 months actually in prison - then 6(?) months on a tag then is free.
And he's not been sentenced yet - that's the MAXIMUM.
Pretty pathetic really.
@Stu_of_Kunming Indeed I have, I'm in my eleventh year of working at the coal face of a High Security prison. It's my experience that suggests Shooters is wrong. There is no policy that separates Islamic terrorists from the general population. I have met some very committed individuals who have been convicted of planning extreme terrorist acts in the name of Islam. I have unlocked them alongside multi-million pound drug importers, gangland executioners, common or garden murderers, armed blaggers etc. The prison service doesn't want to legitimise their cause by putting them in separate units.
Of course, for GOAD (Good Order and Discipline) there may be times when individuals are segregated for the good of the prison and I have seen that with a few individuals who are seen as too disruptive, too influential to be left to spread their rhetoric but this is unusually rare. It's worth remembering that the majority of IRA prisoners were located in general population at a time when officers would check under their cars before leaving work.
Old Anjem will probably be kept separate for a while but I have no doubt he'll be tested in normal location at some point. How that pans out will be entirely down to him.
Shhh don't tell everyone. I had to smuggle the phone I'm typing this on up my 'arris. If the screws find out I'll be wrapped up and down the seg.
Don't go on, he's Foreign Secretary now .