We know from someone VERY close to Roland that if he can't break even then the experiment will be abandoned.
Well, he's already down by a large sum and must that know he can't breakeven. However, he's still here and apparently refusing to talk to suitors.
Is he refusing? Sounds like he quite open for the right bidder from how I've interpreted VOTV.
Tell me more.
Sounds like Duchatelet is more willing than Meire to sell the club the more his experiment fails. Meire, for obvious reasons, appears to be blocking talks. Not just Varney's group either.
One of the many strange things about this situation is that Meire appears able to stifle discussions that Duchatelet seems otherwise open to having.
Is it that strange? Perhaps she likes England, and the all the attention she gets (not necessarily from the fans obviously, but from elsewhere inside the game). If Roland sells, she will be gone, so it's in her best interests to ensure that the club does not get sold.
We know from someone VERY close to Roland that if he can't break even then the experiment will be abandoned.
Well, he's already down by a large sum and must that know he can't breakeven. However, he's still here and apparently refusing to talk to suitors.
Is he refusing? Sounds like he quite open for the right bidder from how I've interpreted VOTV.
Tell me more.
Sounds like Duchatelet is more willing than Meire to sell the club the more his experiment fails. Meire, for obvious reasons, appears to be blocking talks. Not just Varney's group either.
One of the many strange things about this situation is that Meire appears able to stifle discussions that Duchatelet seems otherwise open to having.
I don't entirely understand. If Roland wanted to sell, I'm pretty sure he would.
Sounds like Duchatelet is more willing than Meire to sell the club the more his experiment fails. Meire, for obvious reasons, appears to be blocking talks. Not just Varney's group either.
One of the many strange things about this situation is that Meire appears able to stifle discussions that Duchatelet seems otherwise open to having.
Christ that's scary and incredibly annoying.
The clubs going to shit just because some tart likes life in London.
Goodness sake tell me it's not real.
Sort of makes sense. When she was at that Dublin interview describing how she would receive really kind messages of "get out if our club" like she had the right to be personally offended by that. She's a club employee, not a shareholder.
I've heard a story, previously that Meire and cajones literally don't report anything that is real to Roland and he has absolutely no idea what's going on at charlton. It's even more of a shambles then what it appears on the outside! He put faith in the wrong people and is now paying the full price....that he isn't even aware of.
He's still a complete twat, it's just maybe Meire is more of a twat and she actually has a lot more control then what people realise.
It spells out a lot in the old fact that a lot of mugs meet her one on one in person then publicly describe how great she is.
Maybe a very internally driven individual. Probably not though but some signs are there. Still,
She's probably just a twat nothing more, nothing less, but maybe there's more then what meets the eye with this individual.
I've been to plenty of the Richard Murray ( get well soon Richard) q and a's down the years, and I remember him saying years back that a couple of his biggest fears were that fans would find other things to do if things weren't going well, and and how football was at a saturation point.
I can remember thinking no that would never happen to me, I went out of habit, and if I couldn't afford to go I'd be desperate to hear how we'd be getting on, by whatever means.
Yesterday I was out working in the garden at 10 past 8, ( I'd woke up at 4:30am) by the time the 3 o clock kick off came round I was so knackered and went to bed for a sleep.
I woke up at 5 o clock and asked the missus how did Charlton get on, rather than punching the air with joy , it was more oh a oh, ok.
That fizz of being excited about Charlton and my life revolving around them has completely gone and despite a couple of wins, I feel no inclination to rush down to the valley and buy a seat.
I don't know if it will ever come back but maybe I take it all a bit too seriously and it's an overrated pastime, when I could be doing so much more instead.
I don't know if it will ever come back but maybe I take it all a bit too seriously and it's an overrated pastime, when I could be doing so much more instead.
What? Like gardening?
Pull yourself together man. You'll be buying candles and scatter cushions at the garden centre next.
I've heard a story, previously that Meire and cajones literally don't report anything that is real to Roland and he has absolutely no idea what's going on at charlton. It's even more of a shambles then what it appears on the outside!
BDL has suggested that not only is he aware of this Forum, but he reads it.
I would therefore suggest he's well aware of the antipathy of the majority of the fans.
I've heard a story, previously that Meire and cajones literally don't report anything that is real to Roland and he has absolutely no idea what's going on at charlton. It's even more of a shambles then what it appears on the outside!
BDL has suggested that not only is he aware of this Forum, but he reads it.
I would therefore suggest he's well aware of the antipathy of the majority of the fans.
Who's aware? Roland or cajones...
If it was felt that Roland didn't know the true ons and outs ... Perhaps CARD or the trust could put together an "enlightenment package" and somehow get that in his hands? Let's force open his eyes to this, even if it only rids us of meire!
We know from someone VERY close to Roland that if he can't break even then the experiment will be abandoned.
Well, he's already down by a large sum and must that know he can't breakeven. However, he's still here and apparently refusing to talk to suitors.
Is he refusing? Sounds like he quite open for the right bidder from how I've interpreted VOTV.
Tell me more.
Sounds like Duchatelet is more willing than Meire to sell the club the more his experiment fails. Meire, for obvious reasons, appears to be blocking talks. Not just Varney's group either.
One of the many strange things about this situation is that Meire appears able to stifle discussions that Duchatelet seems otherwise open to having.
I don't entirely understand. If Roland wanted to sell, I'm pretty sure he would.
It wouldn't be hard to bypass Katrien.
I think i have to say spot on to that.
Blimey, it's not hard to write direct to RD's office and say making this approach direct as believe attempts to open discussion are being blocked by the Chief Executive. And then ask for a meeting direct with RD.
Dave, did you really just call Miere a silly sausage? - I've heard some real bile aimed at her on this site but that is plain out if order. You can expect an ABC very soon.
We know from someone VERY close to Roland that if he can't break even then the experiment will be abandoned.
Well, he's already down by a large sum and must that know he can't breakeven. However, he's still here and apparently refusing to talk to suitors.
Is he refusing? Sounds like he quite open for the right bidder from how I've interpreted VOTV.
Tell me more.
Sounds like Duchatelet is more willing than Meire to sell the club the more his experiment fails. Meire, for obvious reasons, appears to be blocking talks. Not just Varney's group either.
One of the many strange things about this situation is that Meire appears able to stifle discussions that Duchatelet seems otherwise open to having.
Is it that strange? Perhaps she likes England, and the all the attention she gets (not necessarily from the fans obviously, but from elsewhere inside the game). If Roland sells, she will be gone, so it's in her best interests to ensure that the club does not get sold.
It's because she knows she won't get a job if he sells up. It's bizarre she's allowed to veto talks.
The only person/people that are being hurt by the boycott are the boycotters.
Looking around the covered end last saturday afternoon and Tuesday night and it was full of people that are there for the social side of the game, the hope of seeing a good match and if they are lucky a win and if they are really lucky a good season. The signs are they are going to get all of these. Boycotting makes no sense because if the team does well then others will go to the valley (a la premiership years) buy the tickets and sit in those vacant seats.
"Boycotting makes no sense", absolute rubbish.
Amongst many other things, there is a principle in reasons for not going to The Valley.
I'll be at Hollands and Blair v Beckenham on Saturday.
The only person/people that are being hurt by the boycott are the boycotters.
Looking around the covered end last saturday afternoon and Tuesday night and it was full of people that are there for the social side of the game, the hope of seeing a good match and if they are lucky a win and if they are really lucky a good season. The signs are they are going to get all of these. Boycotting makes no sense because if the team does well then others will go to the valley (a la premiership years) buy the tickets and sit in those vacant seats.
"Boycotting makes no sense", absolute rubbish.
Amongst many other things, there is a principle in reasons for not going to The Valley.
I'll be at Hollands and Blair v Beckenham on Saturday.
I know Beckenham are shit, but surely playing against Danny Hollands and Lionel Blair isn't a fair contest.
The only person/people that are being hurt by the boycott are the boycotters.
Looking around the covered end last saturday afternoon and Tuesday night and it was full of people that are there for the social side of the game, the hope of seeing a good match and if they are lucky a win and if they are really lucky a good season. The signs are they are going to get all of these. Boycotting makes no sense because if the team does well then others will go to the valley (a la premiership years) buy the tickets and sit in those vacant seats.
"Boycotting makes no sense", absolute rubbish.
Amongst many other things, there is a principle in reasons for not going to The Valley.
I'll be at Hollands and Blair v Beckenham on Saturday.
We know from someone VERY close to Roland that if he can't break even then the experiment will be abandoned.
Well, he's already down by a large sum and must that know he can't breakeven. However, he's still here and apparently refusing to talk to suitors.
Is he refusing? Sounds like he quite open for the right bidder from how I've interpreted VOTV.
Tell me more.
Sounds like Duchatelet is more willing than Meire to sell the club the more his experiment fails. Meire, for obvious reasons, appears to be blocking talks. Not just Varney's group either.
One of the many strange things about this situation is that Meire appears able to stifle discussions that Duchatelet seems otherwise open to having.
I don't entirely understand. If Roland wanted to sell, I'm pretty sure he would.
It wouldn't be hard to bypass Katrien.
I think i have to say spot on to that.
Blimey, it's not hard to write direct to RD's office and say making this approach direct as believe attempts to open discussion are being blocked by the Chief Executive. And then ask for a meeting direct with RD.
As has happened on two occasions that are in the public domain, discussion is initiated with Duchatelet, who then involves Meire, at which point it stops. Varney and his investor have several times offered meetings in Belgium - in the first instance she deferred the meeting with her in London and never rearranged it, despite Duchatelet promising she would, and in the second RD referred the confidentiality agreement that had been discussed with him as a basis for talks to her and she dismissed it out of hand.
I quite see that she has a personal interest in RD's ownership continuing. The question is why she seems able to intervene when he appears open to discussion. It may be that this is just the impression it suits them both to give, but it's not that people haven't tried to bypass her and to some extent they have been successful, but RD then refers back to her, as if he needs her permission for some reason.
The only person/people that are being hurt by the boycott are the boycotters.
Looking around the covered end last saturday afternoon and Tuesday night and it was full of people that are there for the social side of the game, the hope of seeing a good match and if they are lucky a win and if they are really lucky a good season. The signs are they are going to get all of these. Boycotting makes no sense because if the team does well then others will go to the valley (a la premiership years) buy the tickets and sit in those vacant seats.
"Boycotting makes no sense", absolute rubbish.
Amongst many other things, there is a principle in reasons for not going to The Valley.
I'll be at Hollands and Blair v Beckenham on Saturday.
I know Beckenham are shit, but surely playing against Danny Hollands and Lionel Blair isn't a fair contest.
We know from someone VERY close to Roland that if he can't break even then the experiment will be abandoned.
Well, he's already down by a large sum and must that know he can't breakeven. However, he's still here and apparently refusing to talk to suitors.
Is he refusing? Sounds like he quite open for the right bidder from how I've interpreted VOTV.
Tell me more.
Sounds like Duchatelet is more willing than Meire to sell the club the more his experiment fails. Meire, for obvious reasons, appears to be blocking talks. Not just Varney's group either.
One of the many strange things about this situation is that Meire appears able to stifle discussions that Duchatelet seems otherwise open to having.
I don't entirely understand. If Roland wanted to sell, I'm pretty sure he would.
It wouldn't be hard to bypass Katrien.
I think i have to say spot on to that.
Blimey, it's not hard to write direct to RD's office and say making this approach direct as believe attempts to open discussion are being blocked by the Chief Executive. And then ask for a meeting direct with RD.
As as happened on two occasions that are in the public domain, discussion is initiated with Duchatelet, who then involves Meire, at which point it stops. Varney and his investor have several times offered meetings in Belgium - in the first instance she deferred the meeting with her in London and never rearranged it, despite Duchatelet promising she would, and in the second RD referred the confidentiality agreement that had been discussed with him as a basis for talks to her and she dismissed it out of hand.
I quite see that she has a personal interest in RD's ownership continuing. The question is why she seems able to intervene when he appears open to discussion. It may be that this is just the impression it suits them both to give, but it's not that people haven't tried to bypass her and to some extent they have been successful, but RD then refers back to her, as if he needs her permission for some reason.
We know from someone VERY close to Roland that if he can't break even then the experiment will be abandoned.
Well, he's already down by a large sum and must that know he can't breakeven. However, he's still here and apparently refusing to talk to suitors.
Is he refusing? Sounds like he quite open for the right bidder from how I've interpreted VOTV.
Tell me more.
Sounds like Duchatelet is more willing than Meire to sell the club the more his experiment fails. Meire, for obvious reasons, appears to be blocking talks. Not just Varney's group either.
One of the many strange things about this situation is that Meire appears able to stifle discussions that Duchatelet seems otherwise open to having.
I don't entirely understand. If Roland wanted to sell, I'm pretty sure he would.
It wouldn't be hard to bypass Katrien.
I think i have to say spot on to that.
Blimey, it's not hard to write direct to RD's office and say making this approach direct as believe attempts to open discussion are being blocked by the Chief Executive. And then ask for a meeting direct with RD.
As as happened on two occasions that are in the public domain, discussion is initiated with Duchatelet, who then involves Meire, at which point it stops. Varney and his investor have several times offered meetings in Belgium - in the first instance she deferred the meeting with her in London and never rearranged it, despite Duchatelet promising she would, and in the second RD referred the confidentiality agreement that had been discussed with him as a basis for talks to her and she dismissed it out of hand.
I quite see that she has a personal interest in RD's ownership continuing. The question is why she seems able to intervene when he appears open to discussion. It may be that this is just the impression it suits them both to give, but it's not that people haven't tried to bypass her and to some extent they have been successful, but RD then refers back to her, as if he needs her permission for some reason.
Do you honestly believe there is any possibility of her holding any sway over him when it comes to the selling, or not, of the club? Her influence is limited to the diurnal business of running the omnishambles of the club. If she were to object to him selling when the time comes, he will tell to 'pipe down' and mind her own business. She's an employee, nothing more.
We know from someone VERY close to Roland that if he can't break even then the experiment will be abandoned.
Well, he's already down by a large sum and must that know he can't breakeven. However, he's still here and apparently refusing to talk to suitors.
Is he refusing? Sounds like he quite open for the right bidder from how I've interpreted VOTV.
Tell me more.
Sounds like Duchatelet is more willing than Meire to sell the club the more his experiment fails. Meire, for obvious reasons, appears to be blocking talks. Not just Varney's group either.
One of the many strange things about this situation is that Meire appears able to stifle discussions that Duchatelet seems otherwise open to having.
I don't entirely understand. If Roland wanted to sell, I'm pretty sure he would.
It wouldn't be hard to bypass Katrien.
I think i have to say spot on to that.
Blimey, it's not hard to write direct to RD's office and say making this approach direct as believe attempts to open discussion are being blocked by the Chief Executive. And then ask for a meeting direct with RD.
As as happened on two occasions that are in the public domain, discussion is initiated with Duchatelet, who then involves Meire, at which point it stops. Varney and his investor have several times offered meetings in Belgium - in the first instance she deferred the meeting with her in London and never rearranged it, despite Duchatelet promising she would, and in the second RD referred the confidentiality agreement that had been discussed with him as a basis for talks to her and she dismissed it out of hand.
I quite see that she has a personal interest in RD's ownership continuing. The question is why she seems able to intervene when he appears open to discussion. It may be that this is just the impression it suits them both to give, but it's not that people haven't tried to bypass her and to some extent they have been successful, but RD then refers back to her, as if he needs her permission for some reason.
Has she somehow managed to make it part of her contractual agreement with RD that any such talks must be negotiated via her?
I just couldn't do it. I am by nature a quiet sort of person but admittedly obstinate at times. For instance I won't buy coffee at Starbucks. Would they care if they knew? Of course not, but I will stick to my principles. There has been a lot of bickering and worse on other threads. I have chosen to be affiliated with CARD and contributed to the fund because they reflect my take on the situation. At the moment the only game I can see myself attending at The Valley is the Upbeats day. Otherwise until things really change rather than papering over the cracks, 'Vive le Boycott'
I won't buy coffee at Starbucks or anything from Amazon either!
We know from someone VERY close to Roland that if he can't break even then the experiment will be abandoned.
Well, he's already down by a large sum and must that know he can't breakeven. However, he's still here and apparently refusing to talk to suitors.
Is he refusing? Sounds like he quite open for the right bidder from how I've interpreted VOTV.
Tell me more.
Sounds like Duchatelet is more willing than Meire to sell the club the more his experiment fails. Meire, for obvious reasons, appears to be blocking talks. Not just Varney's group either.
One of the many strange things about this situation is that Meire appears able to stifle discussions that Duchatelet seems otherwise open to having.
I don't entirely understand. If Roland wanted to sell, I'm pretty sure he would.
It wouldn't be hard to bypass Katrien.
I think i have to say spot on to that.
Blimey, it's not hard to write direct to RD's office and say making this approach direct as believe attempts to open discussion are being blocked by the Chief Executive. And then ask for a meeting direct with RD.
As as happened on two occasions that are in the public domain, discussion is initiated with Duchatelet, who then involves Meire, at which point it stops. Varney and his investor have several times offered meetings in Belgium - in the first instance she deferred the meeting with her in London and never rearranged it, despite Duchatelet promising she would, and in the second RD referred the confidentiality agreement that had been discussed with him as a basis for talks to her and she dismissed it out of hand.
I quite see that she has a personal interest in RD's ownership continuing. The question is why she seems able to intervene when he appears open to discussion. It may be that this is just the impression it suits them both to give, but it's not that people haven't tried to bypass her and to some extent they have been successful, but RD then refers back to her, as if he needs her permission for some reason.
Do you honestly believe there is any possibility of her holding any sway over him when it comes to the selling, or not, of the club? Her influence is limited to the diurnal business of running the omnishambles of the club. If she were to object to him selling when the time comes, he will tell to 'pipe down' and mind her own business. She's an employee, nothing more.
I was responding to the idea that people could bypass her simply by contacting RD direct - as if that hadn't been tried.
Like it or not, this is how things have panned out on two occasions that we know about. It is odd and that is not just my view. It is shared by those who have been in direct contact with RD.
do me a favour - if rd wanted to sell, he would - if a buyer wanted to buy, he would send rd's bank an offer - its that simple. There is no official boycott, card main players r attending games, most with season tickets. Get down there, help the team get promoted and rd can sell up - dave 21 is right - don't b a martyr - its irrelevant and only hurting yourself
I'm not aware that ANY of the "CARD main players" have season tickets, never mind "most", although if they did that would still be a matter for them as it is for anyone else. I don't know what an "official boycott" would be if there was one either.
We know from someone VERY close to Roland that if he can't break even then the experiment will be abandoned.
Well, he's already down by a large sum and must that know he can't breakeven. However, he's still here and apparently refusing to talk to suitors.
Is he refusing? Sounds like he quite open for the right bidder from how I've interpreted VOTV.
Tell me more.
Sounds like Duchatelet is more willing than Meire to sell the club the more his experiment fails. Meire, for obvious reasons, appears to be blocking talks. Not just Varney's group either.
One of the many strange things about this situation is that Meire appears able to stifle discussions that Duchatelet seems otherwise open to having.
I don't entirely understand. If Roland wanted to sell, I'm pretty sure he would.
It wouldn't be hard to bypass Katrien.
I think i have to say spot on to that.
Blimey, it's not hard to write direct to RD's office and say making this approach direct as believe attempts to open discussion are being blocked by the Chief Executive. And then ask for a meeting direct with RD.
As as happened on two occasions that are in the public domain, discussion is initiated with Duchatelet, who then involves Meire, at which point it stops. Varney and his investor have several times offered meetings in Belgium - in the first instance she deferred the meeting with her in London and never rearranged it, despite Duchatelet promising she would, and in the second RD referred the confidentiality agreement that had been discussed with him as a basis for talks to her and she dismissed it out of hand.
I quite see that she has a personal interest in RD's ownership continuing. The question is why she seems able to intervene when he appears open to discussion. It may be that this is just the impression it suits them both to give, but it's not that people haven't tried to bypass her and to some extent they have been successful, but RD then refers back to her, as if he needs her permission for some reason.
Do you honestly believe there is any possibility of her holding any sway over him when it comes to the selling, or not, of the club? Her influence is limited to the diurnal business of running the omnishambles of the club. If she were to object to him selling when the time comes, he will tell to 'pipe down' and mind her own business. She's an employee, nothing more.
I was responding to the idea that people could bypass her simply by contacting RD direct - as if that hadn't been tried.
Like it or not, this is how things have panned out on two occasions that we know about. It is odd and that is not just my view. It is shared by those who have been in direct contact with RD.
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It wouldn't be hard to bypass Katrien.
Sounds like Duchatelet is more willing than Meire to sell the club the more his experiment fails. Meire, for obvious reasons, appears to be blocking talks. Not just Varney's group either.
One of the many strange things about this situation is that Meire appears able to stifle discussions that Duchatelet seems otherwise open to having.
Christ that's scary and incredibly annoying.
The clubs going to shit just because some tart likes life in London.
Goodness sake tell me it's not real.
Sort of makes sense. When she was at that Dublin interview describing how she would receive really kind messages of "get out if our club" like she had the right to be personally offended by that.
She's a club employee, not a shareholder.
I've heard a story, previously that Meire and cajones literally don't report anything that is real to Roland and he has absolutely no idea what's going on at charlton. It's even more of a shambles then what it appears on the outside!
He put faith in the wrong people and is now paying the full price....that he isn't even aware of.
He's still a complete twat, it's just maybe Meire is more of a twat and she actually has a lot more control then what people realise.
It spells out a lot in the old fact that a lot of mugs meet her one on one in person then publicly describe how great she is.
Maybe a very internally driven individual. Probably not though but some signs are there. Still,
She's probably just a twat nothing more, nothing less, but maybe there's more then what meets the eye with this individual.
I can remember thinking no that would never happen to me, I went out of habit, and if I couldn't afford to go I'd be desperate to hear how we'd be getting on, by whatever means.
Yesterday I was out working in the garden at 10 past 8, ( I'd woke up at 4:30am) by the time the 3 o clock kick off came round I was so knackered and went to bed for a sleep.
I woke up at 5 o clock and asked the missus how did Charlton get on, rather than punching the air with joy , it was more oh a oh, ok.
That fizz of being excited about Charlton and my life revolving around them has completely gone and despite a couple of wins, I feel no inclination to rush down to the valley and buy a seat.
I don't know if it will ever come back but maybe I take it all a bit too seriously and it's an overrated pastime, when I could be doing so much more instead.
Pull yourself together man. You'll be buying candles and scatter cushions at the garden centre next.
BDL has suggested that not only is he aware of this Forum, but he reads it.
I would therefore suggest he's well aware of the antipathy of the majority of the fans.
I would therefore suggest he's well aware of the antipathy of the majority of the fans.
Who's aware? Roland or cajones...
If it was felt that Roland didn't know the true ons and outs ... Perhaps CARD or the trust could put together an "enlightenment package" and somehow get that in his hands?
Let's force open his eyes to this, even if it only rids us of meire!
Well done to the Trust for their proactivity.
Blimey, it's not hard to write direct to RD's office and say making this approach direct as believe attempts to open discussion are being blocked by the Chief Executive. And then ask for a meeting direct with RD.
Amongst many other things, there is a principle in reasons for not going to The Valley.
I'll be at Hollands and Blair v Beckenham on Saturday.
I quite see that she has a personal interest in RD's ownership continuing. The question is why she seems able to intervene when he appears open to discussion. It may be that this is just the impression it suits them both to give, but it's not that people haven't tried to bypass her and to some extent they have been successful, but RD then refers back to her, as if he needs her permission for some reason.
If she were to object to him selling when the time comes, he will tell to 'pipe down' and mind her own business.
She's an employee, nothing more.
Not sure that Roland knows anything about that Thou !
Let's hope the Trust have enough money to pay an expert to check out the dubious Signature.
Like it or not, this is how things have panned out on two occasions that we know about. It is odd and that is not just my view. It is shared by those who have been in direct contact with RD.