Wilder is the classic case of a man who is a perfect manager in the lower divisions (see Warnock e.g.), yet is just not suited to manage at the highest level, and YES, I know his team had a decent first season back at the top. This season, so far, they and him have been very very poor. He hasn't had a lot of money to spend that is true but even so, from what little I have seen of the Blades this year, their football is woeful. I suspect that Wilder is a bit of an old fashioned sergeant major type of manager. Nowadays that management style will not work.
Doesn't help that with what little you do have you piss £20m up the wall on Brewster ...
More than Brighton, Burnley, Palace, Fulham, Leicester, Newcastle, Southampton, West Brom and West Ham spent. A lot of those clubs had significant transfer income as well.
Their net transfer spend was the same as Man Uniteds and more than Liverpools so it seems silly to say he hasn't had a lot of money to spend
It's a problem for a manager when you have an over-achieving season like SUFC did. The fans usually want to improve on it the following year - and it doesn't happen. It takes years to break into the top 6.
I recall Leicester winning the Prem and the fans thinking they were going to do it every year, so sacked Ranieri. Unusually, in the case of SUFC, it seems the fans are onside, but it is the board who have the unrealistic expectation.
It's a problem for a manager when you have an over-achieving season like SUFC did. The fans usually want to improve on it the following year - and it doesn't happen. It takes years to break into the top 6.
I recall Leicester winning the Prem and the fans thinking they were going to do it every year, so sacked Ranieri. Unusually, in the case of SUFC, it seems the fans are onside, but it is the board who have the unrealistic expectation.
They sacked Ranieri because they were in serious danger of getting relegated. I don't think there are any Leicester fans who don't see their title win as a one-off miracle. I would imagine most of them are delighted that they've become a consistent top 7 side since their title victory.
More than Brighton, Burnley, Palace, Fulham, Leicester, Newcastle, Southampton, West Brom and West Ham spent. A lot of those clubs had significant transfer income as well.
Their net transfer spend was the same as Man Uniteds and more than Liverpools so it seems silly to say he hasn't had a lot of money to spend
Starting from a much lower base than all of those clubs though so of course they had to strengthen. They were in league one less than 4 years ago.
Sometimes it doesn't pay to overachieve too much on promotion to the PL
In 2000/01 we achieved a brilliant 9th, but were overshadowed by Ipswich who came 5th. The next season they struggled with being in Europe and got relegated, with Burley sacked a few months after relegation
By all accounts Sheff Utd's wages are basically as low as anyone (imagine Burnley are in a similar ball park to be fair which obviously is a great credit to Dyche).
If Newcastle stay up, I'd bin Bruce and give it to Wilder in a heartbeat.
It's a problem for a manager when you have an over-achieving season like SUFC did. The fans usually want to improve on it the following year - and it doesn't happen. It takes years to break into the top 6.
I recall Leicester winning the Prem and the fans thinking they were going to do it every year, so sacked Ranieri. Unusually, in the case of SUFC, it seems the fans are onside, but it is the board who have the unrealistic expectation.
They sacked Ranieri because they were in serious danger of getting relegated. I don't think there are any Leicester fans who don't see their title win as a one-off miracle. I would imagine most of them are delighted that they've become a consistent top 7 side since their title victory.
So...... they won the Prem, then nearly got relegated, sacked the manager, and are now happy with 6 places lower. That's exactly my point.
Skysports reporting that Wilder passed over signings like Ollie Watkins and Thomas Soucek because he wanted Ramsdale and Brewster. Refused to even entertain the idea of looking at other players. The club board would like him to focus on the coaching side and make less transfer decisions but seems he's not having it.
Skysports reporting that Wilder passed over signings like Ollie Watkins and Thomas Soucek because he wanted Ramsdale and Brewster. Refused to even entertain the idea of looking at other players. The club board would like him to focus on the coaching side and make less transfer decisions but seems he's not having it.
Turned down Ollie Watkins for Oli McBurnie........ouch!
Skysports reporting that Wilder passed over signings like Ollie Watkins and Thomas Soucek because he wanted Ramsdale and Brewster. Refused to even entertain the idea of looking at other players. The club board would like him to focus on the coaching side and make less transfer decisions but seems he's not having it.
Turned down Ollie Watkins for Oli McBurnie........ouch!
Think Ramsdale is the best keeper of those four mentioned and called that one right.
Glad he didnt choose us in the end. Play boring football & have no quality up front. I'm disappointed that they have exceeded the lowest Premier League points total set by Derby some years ago.
Glad he didnt choose us in the end. Play boring football & have no quality up front. I'm disappointed that they have exceeded the lowest Premier League points total set by Derby some years ago.
Yep fuck getting two promotions to the prem and finishing top half before relegation ,definitely wouldn’t swap that for the free flowing goalscoring Brazil1970 football we’ve been witnessing down @ Charlton for the last 18 months no siree !
He's made some poor signings but Sheff Utd wouldn't even be in the Prem without Chris Wilder. He's a good manager and his take on the 3-5-2 with the overlapping CB is widely regarded. It's mad to let him go.
It may end up having the same effect on them as when Curbs departed us.
It feels as though Sheff Utd are going through the same issues as us and Liverpool - they need the fans at Bramall Lane to push them on, reckon they'd recover next season with fans back and Wilder in charge albeit in the Championship.
Its too convenient that the home form of the three clubs has nose dived since Project Restart despite being so strong under the respective Managers
It feels as though Sheff Utd are going through the same issues as us and Liverpool - they need the fans at Bramall Lane to push them on, reckon they'd recover next season with fans back and Wilder in charge albeit in the Championship.
Its too convenient that the home form of the three clubs has nose dived since Project Restart despite being so strong under the respective Managers
Not so sure it is anything to do with fans all 3 clubs have suffered injury to key players.
By all accounts Sheff Utd's wages are basically as low as anyone (imagine Burnley are in a similar ball park to be fair which obviously is a great credit to Dyche).
If Newcastle stay up, I'd bin Bruce and give it to Wilder in a heartbeat.
Think Burnley should give most of the credit to us, well, pope. Whenever I watch motd without pope they would be bottom. Maybe they're defense all needs credit,i know They're hopeless up front.
So, now he's available again.... Anyone fancy him for us?
They're the same as Brentford, have absolutely zero faith in them being able to get promoted if they finish in the Play-Offs regardless of their Manager
A big weekend on the managerial front. Interesting timing from Pompey, as they've been poor for a while but the axe fell after losing in the final of the Papa John's trophy!
I was puzzled why Birmingham appointed Karanka anyway, who had a pretty average record at Boro.
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More than Brighton, Burnley, Palace, Fulham, Leicester, Newcastle, Southampton, West Brom and West Ham spent. A lot of those clubs had significant transfer income as well.
Their net transfer spend was the same as Man Uniteds and more than Liverpools so it seems silly to say he hasn't had a lot of money to spend
The fans usually want to improve on it the following year - and it doesn't happen.
It takes years to break into the top 6.
I recall Leicester winning the Prem and the fans thinking they were going to do it every year, so sacked Ranieri.
Unusually, in the case of SUFC, it seems the fans are onside, but it is the board who have the unrealistic expectation.
In 2000/01 we achieved a brilliant 9th, but were overshadowed by Ipswich who came 5th. The next season they struggled with being in Europe and got relegated, with Burley sacked a few months after relegation
If Newcastle stay up, I'd bin Bruce and give it to Wilder in a heartbeat.
That's exactly my point.
WHU will be next, Moyes gone by Xmas.
It may end up having the same effect on them as when Curbs departed us.
Its too convenient that the home form of the three clubs has nose dived since Project Restart despite being so strong under the respective Managers
So, now he's available again.... Anyone fancy him for us?
Wilder's departure has been confirmed
Not sacking Bowyer does not mean that Sandgaard (which is who you mean by "we" as no one else makes that decision) has no "balls".
Sometime sticking to your guns when others as screaming at you to change takes a lot more "balls" than going along with the loudest voices.
Whether TS is right or wrong to stick with Bowyer is irrelevant to this point. It's nothing to do with Sandgaard not having the balls to do it.
Another club Bowyer played for but not exactly in a good situation now
I was puzzled why Birmingham appointed Karanka anyway, who had a pretty average record at Boro.