One of the finest managers this country has produced. He basically won the champions league with Chelsea and I would love to see him manage us one day
I’m not sure I agree with the one of the finest managers but I never got why he got so much stick as a manager I think he has done a decent job wherever he has been. And the clubs he manages don’t need to change their name unlike Rooney
Think it's the most I've been impressed with him as a manager.
Before this season he'd:
- Taken Derby from 6th to... 6th. Despite having decent backing for good loans using his Chelsea contacts etc.
- Took Chelsea from 3rd to 4th. Got cut a lot of slack because of the transfer ban but they still had a CL squad, signed Kovacic, and had years of heavy academy investment to fall back on.
- Got sacked halfway through the next season with the club in 9th.
- Took over Everton mid-season with the club in 16th. Finished 16th.
- Got sacked the next season with the club in 19th.
- Won 1 in 11 as caretaker at Chelsea.
It was, at best, a very average record, and I wasn't particularly expecting much at Coventry given they were struggling under Mark Robins who had up until then don't very well.
He's done very well though - given none of the 4 teams in the playoffs go into them in good form, Coventry have as good a chance as any to win them.
Impressed they lasted that long before giving him the boot. Third longest manager since 2008. Which may not sound that impressive, but he's their 23rd manager in that time period.
John Eustace left Blackburn when they were in the play offs because the Board refused to back him with purchases (players sold for £30m and next to nothing spent by comparison) or extend his contract beyond the 12 months and joined Derby who were in the relegation zone and heading for League 2. Blackburn finished 7th and missed out on the play offs by two points, having picked up 15 points in 12 matches post Eustace (51 points in 34 games before he left). Derby, with Eustace at the helm, took 21 points from the same 12 matches (29 points in 34 games before he joined), finished 17th and two points above relegation.
We can argue about loyalty but that cuts both ways. Remember how Birmingham replaced Eustace with Wayne Rooney (two wins from 15 matches and career win percentage of 24.41%) and when the signs are that a club won't back a manager then the writing is on the wall. Both Blackburn and Derby will be in the Championship next season and it will be interesting to compare the summer purchases and success or failure of those clubs respective managers.
Will be interesting to see how Leverkusen do without Alonso, they seem quite switched on as a club. ETH mentioned though which would be massive step backwards
Will be interesting to see how Leverkusen do without Alonso, they seem quite switched on as a club. ETH mentioned though which would be massive step backwards
As ever with United managers since Ferguson, hard to know if he's bad or he's a decent manager who went into a messed up club.
If he does go to Leverkusen they might want him to choose less of his own players though.
Will be interesting to see how Leverkusen do without Alonso, they seem quite switched on as a club. ETH mentioned though which would be massive step backwards
He’s been linked with very high profile German job for a while, think it’s probably agent talk
Will be interesting to see how Leverkusen do without Alonso, they seem quite switched on as a club. ETH mentioned though which would be massive step backwards
Is he a bad manager though? Amorim is showing just how tough things are at United, and Ten Hag did at least win a couple of trophies. Also took Ajax to a CL semi final.
Even Antony, who was widely thought to be the Premier League's worst ever signing is now looking like a top class player in La Liga. Obviously he wasn't worth 80m but he's clearly not the no hoper he looked at United.
Personally i wouldn't dismiss anyone based on how they did at United.
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One of the finest managers this country has produced. He basically won the champions league with Chelsea and I would love to see him manage us one day
Before this season he'd:
- Taken Derby from 6th to... 6th. Despite having decent backing for good loans using his Chelsea contacts etc.
- Took Chelsea from 3rd to 4th. Got cut a lot of slack because of the transfer ban but they still had a CL squad, signed Kovacic, and had years of heavy academy investment to fall back on.
- Got sacked halfway through the next season with the club in 9th.
- Took over Everton mid-season with the club in 16th. Finished 16th.
- Got sacked the next season with the club in 19th.
- Won 1 in 11 as caretaker at Chelsea.
It was, at best, a very average record, and I wasn't particularly expecting much at Coventry given they were struggling under Mark Robins who had up until then don't very well.
He's done very well though - given none of the 4 teams in the playoffs go into them in good form, Coventry have as good a chance as any to win them.
Watford sack Tom Cleverley
We can argue about loyalty but that cuts both ways. Remember how Birmingham replaced Eustace with Wayne Rooney (two wins from 15 matches and career win percentage of 24.41%) and when the signs are that a club won't back a manager then the writing is on the wall. Both Blackburn and Derby will be in the Championship next season and it will be interesting to compare the summer purchases and success or failure of those clubs respective managers.
(One for the oldies)
Tom Cleverley was in charge of Watford for 14 months including an interim period and received a Rolex for recognition of his long service.
If he does go to Leverkusen they might want him to choose less of his own players though.
I wonder how that is playing out in the local media and how it compares to England appointing non-English managers, especially Tuchal.
Even Antony, who was widely thought to be the Premier League's worst ever signing is now looking like a top class player in La Liga. Obviously he wasn't worth 80m but he's clearly not the no hoper he looked at United.
Personally i wouldn't dismiss anyone based on how they did at United.