Big loss for Brentford, not just Frank and his assistant, but he's also taken Brentford's head of performance and first-team analyst with him to Spurs.
Big loss for Brentford, not just Frank and his assistant, but he's also taken Brentford's head of performance and first-team analyst with him to Spurs.
That would certainly have been agreed whenever contracts were put together. I'd expect Benham to be ahead of the game and recruit wisely. Get a decent start Bees and you'll be alright.
Will be interesting to see if the replacement at Brentford is McKenna. In the back of my mind I've been wondering with Benhams analytics background if he'd be more looking at a young European appointment like what his big rival Tony Bloom has done at Brighton with Fabian Hurzler.
I can’t see it working for Frank at Spurs. I hope it does because he’s a decent bloke but the systems used by Brentford and Brighton are so sophisticated and they’re driven by Benham and Bloom.
A mate is one of Tony Bloom’s main analysts at Brighton. It’s a relentless job where everyone is invested in the project and rowing in the same direction.
Will Levy allow that at Spurs? A system that relies heavily on data and not on an old fashioned ‘I’m the boss’ regime? I doubt it.
But perhaps Frank is a good enough coach to make it work without the Benham system behind him. We’ll see.
I can’t see it working for Frank at Spurs. I hope it does because he’s a decent bloke but the systems used by Brentford and Brighton are so sophisticated and they’re driven by Benham and Bloom.
A mate is one of Tony Bloom’s main analysts at Brighton. It’s a relentless job where everyone is invested in the project and rowing in the same direction.
Will Levy allow that at Spurs? A system that relies heavily on data and not on an old fashioned ‘I’m the boss’ regime? I doubt it.
But perhaps Frank is a good enough coach to make it work without the Benham system behind him. We’ll see.
We've been using a similar system for the last 3-4 years since Paratici brought it in with him. Would explain how we've found the likes of Bergvall.
Haven't we been here before though? Whoever Spurs appoint there's always an issue.........Levy.
Serial winners in Mourinho and Conte, both failed. Appoint manager from smaller domestic club - Nuno Espirito Santo, failed.
I'd argue that Nuno did even better at Wolves than Frank has done at Brentford, he took Wolves from the Championship to 7th place in the PL twice and to a Europa league quarter final. He lasted 17 games at Spurs, and has since proved by getting Forest into Europe that he is no clown.
Everyone is raving about Frank, but Brentford were 16th last season and 10th this. Is he really the man to turn Spurs around?
Nuno was probably on a par with Frank in terms of sensible managerial choices. Not sure Spurs have got as many big names to throw their toys out of the pram as they did when Nuno was there. Think Frank will get a better shot at it and dare I say it patience from the fans
Haven't we been here before though? Whoever Spurs appoint there's always an issue.........Levy.
Serial winners in Mourinho and Conte, both failed. Appoint manager from smaller domestic club - Nuno Espirito Santo, failed.
I'd argue that Nuno did even better at Wolves than Frank has done at Brentford, he took Wolves from the Championship to 7th place in the PL twice and to a Europa league quarter final. He lasted 17 games at Spurs, and has since proved by getting Forest into Europe that he is no clown.
Everyone is raving about Frank, but Brentford were 16th last season and 10th this. Is he really the man to turn Spurs around?
As I've always said, whats the common denominator? The bald little weasel.
To be totally honest, I'm not overly convinced Frank is the right man. But then I wasn't convnced that Poch was the right man. The club statement rightly points out Frank's track record of developing players. Thats one thing Ange cant say he done as most of our players didn't look like they were improving, with exception of Bergvall, Gray and van der Venn (when fit obviously!)
Ange was right man, wrong manager. I'm not sure what my gut is telling me about Frank yet. He has got no experience of playing twice a werk on a regular basis (not that we'll need that beyond Christmas!). But he speaks well when I've seen him on tv and watching the sky thing on you tube about his day in the life, he looks like he actually coaches so we may improve.
But in the cold light of day, who out there is better AND obtainable?! says a lot really about the club.
Just the £75m paid out in compensation to coaching teams starting with Poch until now...
EDIT: just seen this post from Romero with a not so subtle dig at Levy ie Obstacles...
I can’t see it working for Frank at Spurs. I hope it does because he’s a decent bloke but the systems used by Brentford and Brighton are so sophisticated and they’re driven by Benham and Bloom.
A mate is one of Tony Bloom’s main analysts at Brighton. It’s a relentless job where everyone is invested in the project and rowing in the same direction.
Will Levy allow that at Spurs? A system that relies heavily on data and not on an old fashioned ‘I’m the boss’ regime? I doubt it.
But perhaps Frank is a good enough coach to make it work without the Benham system behind him. We’ll see.
Out of interest, what does your mate think about the goings on at Charlton? Now we've got Jones, the doctor and Phil Chappie, could we be following a similar model to theirs?
It's ironic, because years ago I always felt they followed a similar model to us!
I think Frank was perfect for the Brentford job, everything he built I'm not sure he'll have the same impact at Spurs
Yeah i think the same. He's obviously a good manager but after 7 years at Brentford i think he'll need some time to adapt to being at a bigger club. The question is whether he will be given the time. It could work out, but it could just as easily go the same way as Moyes at United after years at Everton.
At least he has an easy first game to ease himself in............PSG.
I can’t see it working for Frank at Spurs. I hope it does because he’s a decent bloke but the systems used by Brentford and Brighton are so sophisticated and they’re driven by Benham and Bloom.
A mate is one of Tony Bloom’s main analysts at Brighton. It’s a relentless job where everyone is invested in the project and rowing in the same direction.
Will Levy allow that at Spurs? A system that relies heavily on data and not on an old fashioned ‘I’m the boss’ regime? I doubt it.
But perhaps Frank is a good enough coach to make it work without the Benham system behind him. We’ll see.
Out of interest, what does your mate think about the goings on at Charlton? Now we've got Jones, the doctor and Phil Chappie, could we be following a similar model to theirs?
It's ironic, because years ago I always felt they followed a similar model to us!
Plus Murphy, who talked about data driven recruitment alongside traditional eyes on models and background checks and has worked wirh Billy Bean.
Yes I’m going to ask him. He's been with Tony for many years through the betting side and now football. He’s unbelievably busy, but I’m having a beer with him next week.
I’ll see what he says and whether he’s happy to share. Will report back if he is.
The Championship managerial merry go-round must be spinning faster than it ever has at the moment So many clubs either managerless, got a brand new manager in or speculation about current manager moving on. Can't think of a better season for a newly promoted, relatively steady club to establish itself in the league.
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I'd expect Benham to be ahead of the game and recruit wisely.
Get a decent start Bees and you'll be alright.
A mate is one of Tony Bloom’s main analysts at Brighton. It’s a relentless job where everyone is invested in the project and rowing in the same direction.
Will Levy allow that at Spurs? A system that relies heavily on data and not on an old fashioned ‘I’m the boss’ regime? I doubt it.
Serial winners in Mourinho and Conte, both failed.
Appoint manager from smaller domestic club - Nuno Espirito Santo, failed.
I'd argue that Nuno did even better at Wolves than Frank has done at Brentford, he took Wolves from the Championship to 7th place in the PL twice and to a Europa league quarter final. He lasted 17 games at Spurs, and has since proved by getting Forest into Europe that he is no clown.
Everyone is raving about Frank, but Brentford were 16th last season and 10th this. Is he really the man to turn Spurs around?
Not sure Spurs have got as many big names to throw their toys out of the pram as they did when Nuno was there.
Think Frank will get a better shot at it and dare I say it patience from the fans
To be totally honest, I'm not overly convinced Frank is the right man. But then I wasn't convnced that Poch was the right man. The club statement rightly points out Frank's track record of developing players. Thats one thing Ange cant say he done as most of our players didn't look like they were improving, with exception of Bergvall, Gray and van der Venn (when fit obviously!)
Ange was right man, wrong manager. I'm not sure what my gut is telling me about Frank yet. He has got no experience of playing twice a werk on a regular basis (not that we'll need that beyond Christmas!). But he speaks well when I've seen him on tv and watching the sky thing on you tube about his day in the life, he looks like he actually coaches so we may improve.
But in the cold light of day, who out there is better AND obtainable?! says a lot really about the club.
Just the £75m paid out in compensation to coaching teams starting with Poch until now...
EDIT: just seen this post from Romero with a not so subtle dig at Levy ie Obstacles...
Thats him pushing for a move then...
Now we've got Jones, the doctor and Phil Chappie, could we be following a similar model to theirs?
It's ironic, because years ago I always felt they followed a similar model to us!
At least he has an easy first game to ease himself in............PSG.
So many clubs either managerless, got a brand new manager in or speculation about current manager moving on.
Can't think of a better season for a newly promoted, relatively steady club to establish itself in the league.
Just sayin!
Tom Cleverley in at Plymouth.