Don't lie about it anyway. Meire has basically called Powell a liar by denying his account was true. Duchatelet has accused the man of doing something he hasn't done which questions his deserved reputation of honesty. If you look outside the ground there is a picture of the great man - whatever your views of his managerial skills, this disrespect of a Charlton hero cannot be acceptable.
We have witnessed the disrespect a releative of Jimmy Seed has received from representatives of the club. We have also seen Meire divulge that our man applied for the managers job after Peeters was sacked! Our man FFS! And why divulge it you evil cow! This is so disrespectful it is unreal. We have been disrespected and patronised at every turn to boot.
And if you add the slander against our best CEO form our worst, and she wasn't without tough recent competition for that crown, well it just isn't acceptable. I'm not going to go to the cup game as planned. I am not putting money in the pockets of those lying scumbags!
Thoughts from someone on Roland's emails from Facebook.
big difference between asking questions and interfering
And also between 'interfering' and thinking that, if you play comically shit players enough times in a good league, another club will actually want to pay you money to sign them ;-)
If it's an arsehole who just wants the team to succeed, recognises they aren't a football expert and delegates to people competent to do the job, that's a good result.
If it's an arsehole who has less money but who wants to run the club with a view to success.
If he manages to find someone who both has less money but to a greater extent thinks they are god's gift to football even more so than him, then wow.
Might sound slightly sad but i can't bring myself to listen to the podcasts, it will just make me so angry at what Roland has done for this once great club.
If I ever have the pleasure of meeting the great Christmas Powell again I will shake his hand look him in the eye and say thank you.
What a great man. He could have walked away. He would have been well within his rights to. But he chose to stick it out. He handled himself and the situation with great professionalism. Shielding the players and the fans from what was going on. He stayed because he cared about this club. I have even more respect for him after hearing all this.
What a man. This lot don't deserve someone like him.
Might sound slightly sad but i can't bring myself to listen to the podcasts, it will just make me so angry at what Roland has done for this once great club.
Mate, trust me it's well worth a listen. If you want Roland out, t's edifying more than anything.
If it wasn't our club, it would make a great "Who Dunnit." Who killed Charlton Athletic?
Don't lie about it anyway. Meire has basically called Powell a liar by denying his account was true. Duchatelet has accused the man of doing something he hasn't done which questions his deserved reputation of honesty. If you look outside the ground there is a picture of the great man - whatever your views of his managerial skills, this disrespect of a Charlton hero cannot be acceptable.
We have witnessed the disrespect a releative of Jimmy Seed has received from representatives of the club. We have also seen Meire divulge that our man applied for the managers job after Peeters was sacked! Our man FFS! And why divulge it you evil cow! This is so disrespectful it is unreal. We have been disrespected and patronised at every turn to boot.
And if you add the slander against our best CEO form our worst, and she wasn't without tough recent competition for that crown, well it just isn't acceptable. I'm not going to go to the cup game as planned. I am not putting money in the pockets of those lying scumbags!
Would somebody please explain what this means ? Inbox me if needbe Thanks
Most likely it got forwarded around internally between the management team... "Damien, take a look at what I'm dealing with here... But at least now I know what 4-4-2 is! Chrissy"
I can think of an even more likely scenario, but would rather not speculate in detail, in case I'm right on the general principle but wrong on the people involved, and inadvertantly drop someone in the shit.
Sometimes in life you do have to wonder on what planet some people have lived.
I actually have no problem with any investor communicating his views to his management but by what judgement would seek to advise a fully professionally qualified individual who had lived and breathed the industry for over 20yrs of his life, working with a succession of the highest qualified and most talented coaches in the country with the opinions of a completely unqualified scout who rarely even goes to games?
Can there be a more distorted value set? On what possible level would you equate the respective judgements of the individuals concerned?
The fact he did not pick up the phone to have the discussion speaks to the fact the author did not feel confident in doing so because he knew the recipient of his call would probably embarrass his ignorance of the subject matter.
To pass off the opinions of others without the right of reply to those offering such opinion is divisive in the extreme.
To put such thoughts in writing, the content of which however you wish to interpret its meaning, is a positive embarrassment. It resembles the efforts of an 11yr old who had just read the first chapter of a coaching manual.
Can there have been any greater exposure of the ignorance of an investor in an industry in which he chose to invest?
M Duchatelet the problem is not you sent the emails, it is not particularly the possible interpretation of the content, although very clearly in light of past denials it is very much open to question, the problem is it displays a mind boggling absence of professional gravitas and competence.
If you ever wished to declare your complete ignorance on a subject matter to the people you employ ......this was it.
If it was not so seriously inadequate it would actually be very funny.
To then choose to respond to the GTKTN revelations after your organisation publicly confirmed it would not be responding merely reinforces the picture of complete professional incompetence.
Do you people actually ever talk to each other? Are you ever on the same page? Or M Duchatelet is it simply you so arrogantly disdainful of anyone who works for you that no matter what press releases or communications they issue, no matter the professional advice you are given you are going to have your say regardless.
M Duchatelet I am beginning to wonder whether you should be allowed out on your own.
There is very little information on his early years in his Wikipedia page, beyond that he founded Melexis in 1990 and 'became a multimillionaire'. It doesn't give any clue as to how much capital he actually started with.
Given the utter shambles witnessed over the last couple of years, I have been wondering exactly how much of his wealth has been self made. There is something of the Trump about him (Beyond also having a comical hairpiece).
Don't lie about it anyway. Meire has basically called Powell a liar by denying his account was true. Duchatelet has accused the man of doing something he hasn't done which questions his deserved reputation of honesty. If you look outside the ground there is a picture of the great man - whatever your views of his managerial skills, this disrespect of a Charlton hero cannot be acceptable.
We have witnessed the disrespect a releative of Jimmy Seed has received from representatives of the club. We have also seen Meire divulge that our man applied for the managers job after Peeters was sacked! Our man FFS! And why divulge it you evil cow! This is so disrespectful it is unreal. We have been disrespected and patronised at every turn to boot.
And if you add the slander against our best CEO form our worst, and she wasn't without tough recent competition for that crown, well it just isn't acceptable. I'm not going to go to the cup game as planned. I am not putting money in the pockets of those lying scumbags!
Would somebody please explain what this means ? Inbox me if needbe Thanks
Just after Peeters was sacked, she told a fan on cam that our man (Curbishley) had applied for the managers job. It was dismissive, unprofessional and disrespectful and I haven't forgiven her for it. Nor forgotten it.
And the big issue here is not so much that the owner interfered - He won't be the first or last owner to do that. As misguided as that is. But to deny it which suggests Powell is a liar is as low as you get. Meire has no shame when she tells a lie but we know beyond any reasonable doubt they are lies.
Sometimes in life you do have to wonder on what planet some people have lived.
I actually have no problem with any investor communicating his views to his management but by what judgement would seek to advise a fully professionally qualified individual who had lived and breathed the industry for over 20yrs of his life, working with a succession of the highest qualified and most talented coaches in the country with the opinions of a completely unqualified scout who rarely even goes to games?
Can there be a more distorted value set? On what possible level would you equate the respective judgements of the individuals concerned?
The fact he did not pick up the phone to have the discussion speaks to the fact the author did not feel confident in doing so because he knew the recipient of his call would probably embarrass his ignorance of the subject matter.
To pass off the opinions of others without the right of reply to those offering such opinion is divisive in the extreme.
To put such thoughts in writing, the content of which however you wish to interpret its meaning, is a positive embarrassment. It resembles the efforts of an 11yr old who had just read the first chapter of a coaching manual.
Can there have been any greater exposure of the ignorance of an investor in an industry in which he chose to invest?
M Duchatelet the problem is not you sent the emails, it is not particularly the possible interpretation of the content, although very clearly in light of past denials it is very much open to question, the problem is it displays a mind boggling absence of professional gravitas and competence.
If you ever wished to declare your complete ignorance on a subject matter to the people you employ ......this was it.
If it was not so seriously inadequate it would actually be very funny.
To then choose to respond to the GTKTN revelations after your organisation publicly confirmed it would not be responding merely reinforces the picture of complete professional incompetence.
Do you people actually ever talk to each other? Are you ever on the same page? Or M Duchatelet is it simply you so arrogantly disdainful of anyone who works for you that no matter what press releases or communications they issue, no matter the professional advice you are given you are going to have your say regardless.
M Duchatelet I am beginning to wonder whether you should be allowed out on your own.
@Grapevine49 , you could write the biggest pile of stinking poo imaginable and I'd still give it a like because of the quality of your writing. As it happens, you've nailed it yet again. A book would be in order if you have the time and inclination.
There is very little information on his early years in his Wikipedia page, beyond that he founded Melexis in 1990 and 'became a multimillionaire'. It doesn't give any clue as to how much capital he actually started with.
Given the utter shambles witnessed over the last couple of years, I have been wondering exactly how much of his wealth has been self made. There is something of the Trump about him (Beyond also having a comical hairpiece).
Indeed.
If Roland was a self made man....I'm sure katrien would have mentioned it only a thousand times.
If Roland started from absolutely nothing....and worked his way up.
I would be surprised.
Due to the fact that it would be more obvious if he did.
There is very little information on his early years in his Wikipedia page, beyond that he founded Melexis in 1990 and 'became a multimillionaire'. It doesn't give any clue as to how much capital he actually started with.
Given the utter shambles witnessed over the last couple of years, I have been wondering exactly how much of his wealth has been self made. There is something of the Trump about him (Beyond also having a comical hairpiece).
Indeed.
If Roland was a self made man....I'm sure katrien would have mentioned it only a thousand times.
If Roland started from absolutely nothing....and worked his way up.
I would be surprised.
Due to the fact that it would be more obvious if he did.
Agreed.
Throughout all of this, his attitude seems to have been a bewildered 'why don't the restless proles know their place?'.
Inheriting sizeable wealth would explain his apparent detachment from anything approaching normal life. Katrien probably has a very similar background
Congratulations to Jimmy Stone for a couple of excellent podcasts - measured, balanced and extremely professional, with plenty of compelling testimony from those involved at the time. It's particularly impressive that he managed to get hold of some of the network scouts. The facts - including Duchatelet's extraordinary emails - speak for themselves and the absence of any aggressive advocacy against the regime only adds further weight to the documentary's overall credibility. A good example was including an extract from the interview with the agent (I think it was) who repeatedly asserted that Duchatelet was "a very smart man". Given the juxtaposition to the compelling evidence to the contrary, that contention only served to underscore the fact that, on any objective view, Duchatelet is, in football terms, an arrogant, pernicious nincompoop.
I think it was in the first podcast that Chris Powell said that he didn't wish to sign a new contract in the period prior to the takeover when several of our core players had yet to be rewarded with extensions. I found that extremely poignant in the light of subsequent events and it speaks volumes for him as a man. Echoes there of Lennie Lawrence deferring a contract extension mid-season during one of our perennial relegation battles at Selhurst Park on the basis that he wanted the players to feel that he was in the same boat as them.
Duchatelet's assertion that Chris leaked the emails is a thoroughly despicable attempt to smear him and deflect attention away from Duchatelet's disgraceful attempt to exercise duress regarding team selection. As Stig and others have said, however, it's unlikely to constitute defamation, given that Duchatelet's (factually incorrect) statement is unlikely to lower the regard in which Chris Powell is held by "right-thinking members of society". Most people will see it for what it is, whilst disclosure of the emails and the way in which Chris conducted himself throughout is only like to enhance his already outstanding reputation within the game.
Looking forward to episodes 3 and 4 and to further disclosures to evidence the deplorable conduct of this regime. Their credibility is in tatters and anodyne statements from anonymous spokespersons will simply not cut it, given their track record.
Even Duchatelet must realise that his days at this club are numbered.
Good post!
That the only person who had anything good to say about RD is a person in a "profession" generally considered by most football fans as lower than a snake's bollocks, speaks volumes. And even he, whilst admiring RD's acumen when it comes to wheeler dealing, doesn't like the bloke.
As for the e-mails, so what if SCP did leak them (and if he says not I believe him 100%), there's nothing to suggest they were confidential, and nothing defamatory in them. RD should have the balls to stand by them if he's so convinced he's right, If he is embarrassed by them then say so and admit he fucked up and then lied about it. Spineless.
There is very little information on his early years in his Wikipedia page, beyond that he founded Melexis in 1990 and 'became a multimillionaire'. It doesn't give any clue as to how much capital he actually started with.
Given the utter shambles witnessed over the last couple of years, I have been wondering exactly how much of his wealth has been self made. There is something of the Trump about him (Beyond also having a comical hairpiece).
Indeed.
If Roland was a self made man....I'm sure katrien would have mentioned it only a thousand times.
If Roland started from absolutely nothing....and worked his way up.
I would be surprised.
Due to the fact that it would be more obvious if he did.
Agreed.
Throughout all of this, his attitude seems to have been a bewildered 'why don't the restless proles know their place?'.
Inheriting sizeable wealth would explain his apparent detachment from anything approaching normal life. Katrien probably has a very similar background
I suspect Ms Meire comes from a fairly well to do family. It would certainly go a long way to explain the stench of entitlement emanating from her.
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We have witnessed the disrespect a releative of Jimmy Seed has received from representatives of the club. We have also seen Meire divulge that our man applied for the managers job after Peeters was sacked! Our man FFS! And why divulge it you evil cow! This is so disrespectful it is unreal. We have been disrespected and patronised at every turn to boot.
And if you add the slander against our best CEO form our worst, and she wasn't without tough recent competition for that crown, well it just isn't acceptable. I'm not going to go to the cup game as planned. I am not putting money in the pockets of those lying scumbags!
If it's an arsehole who has less money but who wants to run the club with a view to success.
If he manages to find someone who both has less money but to a greater extent thinks they are god's gift to football even more so than him, then wow.
Oh Katrien Miere is full of shit
She tells lies, lies & more lies
Oh Katrien Miere is full of shit
Oh Duchat-ley is full of shit
Oh Duchat-ley is full of shit
He tells lies, lies & more lies
Oh, Duchat-ley is full of shit
I think that sums up the Chris Powell situation
What a great man. He could have walked away. He would have been well within his rights to. But he chose to stick it out. He handled himself and the situation with great professionalism. Shielding the players and the fans from what was going on. He stayed because he cared about this club. I have even more respect for him after hearing all this.
What a man. This lot don't deserve someone like him.
If it wasn't our club, it would make a great "Who Dunnit." Who killed Charlton Athletic?
We'll have to hope that we'll be landed with a 'normal' board.
I actually have no problem with any investor communicating his views to his management but by what judgement would seek to advise a fully professionally qualified individual who had lived and breathed the industry for over 20yrs of his life, working with a succession of the highest qualified and most talented coaches in the country with the opinions of a completely unqualified scout who rarely even goes to games?
Can there be a more distorted value set? On what possible level would you equate the respective judgements of the individuals concerned?
The fact he did not pick up the phone to have the discussion speaks to the fact the author did not feel confident in doing so because he knew the recipient of his call would probably embarrass his ignorance of the subject matter.
To pass off the opinions of others without the right of reply to those offering such opinion is divisive in the extreme.
To put such thoughts in writing, the content of which however you wish to interpret its meaning, is a positive embarrassment. It resembles the efforts of an 11yr old who had just read the first chapter of a coaching manual.
Can there have been any greater exposure of the ignorance of an investor in an industry in which he chose to invest?
M Duchatelet the problem is not you sent the emails, it is not particularly the possible interpretation of the content, although very clearly in light of past denials it is very much open to question, the problem is it displays a mind boggling absence of professional gravitas and competence.
If you ever wished to declare your complete ignorance on a subject matter to the people you employ ......this was it.
If it was not so seriously inadequate it would actually be very funny.
To then choose to respond to the GTKTN revelations after your organisation publicly confirmed it would not be responding merely reinforces the picture of complete professional incompetence.
Do you people actually ever talk to each other? Are you ever on the same page? Or M Duchatelet is it simply you so arrogantly disdainful of anyone who works for you that no matter what press releases or communications they issue, no matter the professional advice you are given you are going to have your say regardless.
M Duchatelet I am beginning to wonder whether you should be allowed out on your own.
Given the utter shambles witnessed over the last couple of years, I have been wondering exactly how much of his wealth has been self made. There is something of the Trump about him (Beyond also having a comical hairpiece).
And the big issue here is not so much that the owner interfered - He won't be the first or last owner to do that. As misguided as that is. But to deny it which suggests Powell is a liar is as low as you get. Meire has no shame when she tells a lie but we know beyond any reasonable doubt they are lies.
If Roland was a self made man....I'm sure katrien would have mentioned it only a thousand times.
If Roland started from absolutely nothing....and worked his way up.
I would be surprised.
Due to the fact that it would be more obvious if he did.
Glad to hear he is not blaming someone else.
Throughout all of this, his attitude seems to have been a bewildered 'why don't the restless proles know their place?'.
Inheriting sizeable wealth would explain his apparent detachment from anything approaching normal life. Katrien probably has a very similar background
That the only person who had anything good to say about RD is a person in a "profession" generally considered by most football fans as lower than a snake's bollocks, speaks volumes. And even he, whilst admiring RD's acumen when it comes to wheeler dealing, doesn't like the bloke.
As for the e-mails, so what if SCP did leak them (and if he says not I believe him 100%), there's nothing to suggest they were confidential, and nothing defamatory in them. RD should have the balls to stand by them if he's so convinced he's right, If he is embarrassed by them then say so and admit he fucked up and then lied about it. Spineless.