Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
In case the intruder is armed
What is a knife going to do if he is armed, if anything it is going to get you in more trouble as there is an intent when charged due to the fact you have gone to get a weapon in the knowledge of it could kill someone. If you aren't confident on handling yourself then get a baseball bat, it's an extension to your attack and defence without potentially murdering someone.
Knife, bat, club or whatever the point i was trying to make is that IF you are going to open the door be prepared for the intruder to be armed. If you are not confident in that situation stay indoors and dial 999. And yes mate i am confident that i can handle myself.
So if you had a family indoors you wouldn't go out and confront them and call 999 just to wait for the police to arrive.
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
In case the intruder is armed
What is a knife going to do if he is armed, if anything it is going to get you in more trouble as there is an intent when charged due to the fact you have gone to get a weapon in the knowledge of it could kill someone. If you aren't confident on handling yourself then get a baseball bat, it's an extension to your attack and defence without potentially murdering someone.
Knife, bat, club or whatever the point i was trying to make is that IF you are going to open the door be prepared for the intruder to be armed. If you are not confident in that situation stay indoors and dial 999. And yes mate i am confident that i can handle myself.
So if you had a family indoors you wouldn't go out and confront them and call 999 just to wait for the police to arrive.
If you read my post properly you will see that i said that i am confident that i can handle myself. So yes I would open the door and yes I would be armed
if the baddies are outside and you are inside, why not bolt the door and call the OB? Going out is not a smart move.
I take you're point Mr.Bonce but what if old Bill take hours to turn up. Do you then wait for the intruder to break in to you're home and confront them inside or do you open the door and confront him outside.
Just saying
If they take more than ten minutes and the intruder is still there, call them again. This time tell them not to worry as you've scared the intruder off by shooting him in the leg with a sawn-off shotgun and you're sure he's not coming back.
They'll be round, fully armed, in squad cars and helicopters within five minutes.
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
In case the intruder is armed
What is a knife going to do if he is armed, if anything it is going to get you in more trouble as there is an intent when charged due to the fact you have gone to get a weapon in the knowledge of it could kill someone. If you aren't confident on handling yourself then get a baseball bat, it's an extension to your attack and defence without potentially murdering someone.
Knife, bat, club or whatever the point i was trying to make is that IF you are going to open the door be prepared for the intruder to be armed. If you are not confident in that situation stay indoors and dial 999. And yes mate i am confident that i can handle myself.
So if you had a family indoors you wouldn't go out and confront them and call 999 just to wait for the police to arrive.
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
In case the intruder is armed
What is a knife going to do if he is armed, if anything it is going to get you in more trouble as there is an intent when charged due to the fact you have gone to get a weapon in the knowledge of it could kill someone. If you aren't confident on handling yourself then get a baseball bat, it's an extension to your attack and defence without potentially murdering someone.
Knife, bat, club or whatever the point i was trying to make is that IF you are going to open the door be prepared for the intruder to be armed. If you are not confident in that situation stay indoors and dial 999. And yes mate i am confident that i can handle myself.
So if you had a family indoors you wouldn't go out and confront them and call 999 just to wait for the police to arrive.
If you read my post properly you will see that i said that i am confident that i can handle myself. So yes I would open the door and yes I would be armed
if the baddies are outside and you are inside, why not bolt the door and call the OB? Going out is not a smart move.
I take you're point Mr.Bonce but what if old Bill take hours to turn up. Do you then wait for the intruder to break in to you're home and confront them inside or do you open the door and confront him outside.
Just saying
If they take more than ten minutes and the intruder is still there, call them again. This time tell them not to worry as you've scared the intruder off by shooting him in the leg with a sawn-off shotgun and you're sure he's not coming back.
They'll be round, fully armed, in squad cars and helicopters within five minutes.
You'd lose you sgc and also your fac if you've got one and you wouldn't get it back
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
In case the intruder is armed
What is a knife going to do if he is armed, if anything it is going to get you in more trouble as there is an intent when charged due to the fact you have gone to get a weapon in the knowledge of it could kill someone. If you aren't confident on handling yourself then get a baseball bat, it's an extension to your attack and defence without potentially murdering someone.
Knife, bat, club or whatever the point i was trying to make is that IF you are going to open the door be prepared for the intruder to be armed. If you are not confident in that situation stay indoors and dial 999. And yes mate i am confident that i can handle myself.
So if you had a family indoors you wouldn't go out and confront them and call 999 just to wait for the police to arrive.
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
In case the intruder is armed
What is a knife going to do if he is armed, if anything it is going to get you in more trouble as there is an intent when charged due to the fact you have gone to get a weapon in the knowledge of it could kill someone. If you aren't confident on handling yourself then get a baseball bat, it's an extension to your attack and defence without potentially murdering someone.
Knife, bat, club or whatever the point i was trying to make is that IF you are going to open the door be prepared for the intruder to be armed. If you are not confident in that situation stay indoors and dial 999. And yes mate i am confident that i can handle myself.
So if you had a family indoors you wouldn't go out and confront them and call 999 just to wait for the police to arrive.
If you read my post properly you will see that i said that i am confident that i can handle myself. So yes I would open the door and yes I would be armed
if the baddies are outside and you are inside, why not bolt the door and call the OB? Going out is not a smart move.
I take you're point Mr.Bonce but what if old Bill take hours to turn up. Do you then wait for the intruder to break in to you're home and confront them inside or do you open the door and confront him outside.
Just saying
Going out to confront will open a legal can of worms. YOU went out, YOU attacked him/them. If THEY come in to YOUR house you can do more or less anything if you FEEL threatened.
When I started doing Krav Maga i thought I was a bit lively but the instructor soon brought me down to earth with a bump (literally) We all like to think we can handle ourselves but what happens if the other bloke can handle himself a bit better?
this is the most important sentence in the whole thread
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
In case the intruder is armed
What is a knife going to do if he is armed, if anything it is going to get you in more trouble as there is an intent when charged due to the fact you have gone to get a weapon in the knowledge of it could kill someone. If you aren't confident on handling yourself then get a baseball bat, it's an extension to your attack and defence without potentially murdering someone.
Knife, bat, club or whatever the point i was trying to make is that IF you are going to open the door be prepared for the intruder to be armed. If you are not confident in that situation stay indoors and dial 999. And yes mate i am confident that i can handle myself.
So if you had a family indoors you wouldn't go out and confront them and call 999 just to wait for the police to arrive.
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
In case the intruder is armed
What is a knife going to do if he is armed, if anything it is going to get you in more trouble as there is an intent when charged due to the fact you have gone to get a weapon in the knowledge of it could kill someone. If you aren't confident on handling yourself then get a baseball bat, it's an extension to your attack and defence without potentially murdering someone.
Knife, bat, club or whatever the point i was trying to make is that IF you are going to open the door be prepared for the intruder to be armed. If you are not confident in that situation stay indoors and dial 999. And yes mate i am confident that i can handle myself.
So if you had a family indoors you wouldn't go out and confront them and call 999 just to wait for the police to arrive.
If you read my post properly you will see that i said that i am confident that i can handle myself. So yes I would open the door and yes I would be armed
if the baddies are outside and you are inside, why not bolt the door and call the OB? Going out is not a smart move.
I take you're point Mr.Bonce but what if old Bill take hours to turn up. Do you then wait for the intruder to break in to you're home and confront them inside or do you open the door and confront him outside.
Just saying
Going out to confront will open a legal can of worms. YOU went out, YOU attacked him/them. If THEY come in to YOUR house you can do more or less anything if you FEEL threatened.
When I started doing Krav Maga i thought I was a bit lively but the instructor soon brought me down to earth with a bump (literally) We all like to think we can handle ourselves but what happens if the other bloke can handle himself a bit better?
this is the most important sentence in the whole thread
I agree, however you can't account for what will happen in the heat of the moment.
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
WIWLB I think the last time I threw a punch was when I was about 13 nearly 30 years ago, not really confident of handling myself. Was near the kitchen knife was nearest thing to hand. Things turned out OK just hope it never happens to anyone else as standing in your hallway at 4am thinking someone's breaking in is not the the best feeling in the world.
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
WIWLB I think the last time I threw a punch was when I was about 13 nearly 30 years ago, not really confident of handling myself. Was near the kitchen knife was nearest thing to hand. Things turned out OK just hope it never happens to anyone else as standing in your hallway at 4am thinking someone's breaking in is not the the best feeling in the world.
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
WIWLB I think the last time I threw a punch was when I was about 13 nearly 30 years ago, not really confident of handling myself. Was near the kitchen knife was nearest thing to hand. Things turned out OK just hope it never happens to anyone else as standing in your hallway at 4am thinking someone's breaking in is not the the best feeling in the world.
Even if you are caught with a knife that is a custodial sentence but to go out and front someone with it there is intent , a fatal stab would have meant you potentially would have lost everything
We had a visit from local OB after a spate of break ins shortly after moving here, obviously they saw our dogs but also noticed our cctv. They were very quick to point out something I thought maybe true and that is. If I was see someone in the garden and was to let the dogs out and someone gets bitten, I could be charged. His advice was, l saw no one but dogs simply wanted a dump so I let them out.
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
WIWLB I think the last time I threw a punch was when I was about 13 nearly 30 years ago, not really confident of handling myself. Was near the kitchen knife was nearest thing to hand. Things turned out OK just hope it never happens to anyone else as standing in your hallway at 4am thinking someone's breaking in is not the the best feeling in the world.
Even if you are caught with a knife that is a custodial sentence but to go out and front someone with it there is intent , a fatal stab would have meant you potentially would have lost everything
Your right WIWLB but whether knife,bat,chair or hands if someone did get in they or I wouldn't be walking out.
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
WIWLB I think the last time I threw a punch was when I was about 13 nearly 30 years ago, not really confident of handling myself. Was near the kitchen knife was nearest thing to hand. Things turned out OK just hope it never happens to anyone else as standing in your hallway at 4am thinking someone's breaking in is not the the best feeling in the world.
Even if you are caught with a knife that is a custodial sentence but to go out and front someone with it there is intent , a fatal stab would have meant you potentially would have lost everything
Your right WIWLB but whether knife,bat,chair or hands if someone did get in they or I wouldn't be walking out.
Need to think of your actions when it comes to knifes.
I used to live in a flat in central Brighton, a three story old building. I was on the top floor. The flat was an odd layout, in that the front door was next to my kid's bedroom door and then there was a long wooden staircase going up to the rest of the flat.
I'd finished watching TV and was heading to bed when I heard something against the front door down the stairs that sounded like someone trying to get in. It then struck me that for me to go and check it out would involve going down the creaky stairs which would alert them to my presence well before I got there, and that if I opened the door to confront whoever it was then my kids would be right on top of it.
I really hadn't thought that through when moving in and froze while I thought what to do. Thankfully what was transpiring soon became clearer as the two people leaning against my door started arguing... loudly. They were a steaming drunk homeless male and female and they were having a right old barney. While I wanted to go deal with it, I at least calmed down a bit safe in the knowledge that at least they weren't an organised gang ready to come in and do my place over.
Then the woman started attacking the man, I could hear him screaming in pain and I decided that with the kids next to the front door I should definitely think twice about opening it.
It's funny because ringing the police seemed like the wuss thing to do, but there was no way I was opening the door and dealing with it myself with the kids there. As I was getting my phone to ring 999 the fighting outside stopped and I heard the female apologizing. Then silence. Then slurps. Then squelches. Then moans. Jesus.
By the time the police eventually turned up there'd been a few of these argument/fight/blowjob cycles, and I could hear one of the coppers having to tell the bloke to put his "weapon" away while he talked to him, before they kicked them out with a warning.
Anyway where was I. Oh, I dunno... something about before you knife the person outside your door be aware it could be the local smackheads having a shag or something I suppose.
It's one of the reasons I started this thread You've got an intruder in your house 4am in the morning and I WE need to think of our actions to safeguard our family because someone has broken into mine your home. Of course it's irrelevant in my case this morning but it must happen in some cases where someone could be in the middle of fighting an intruder and there thinking I can't hurt them too much.
I'm assuming that some of you have been drinking today. If your family are inside the chap outside has a door and you in between them and raping your wife and/or your children.
If they see you inside they might be dissuaded and don't get in. If they can't get in through the door (which is, presumably, engineered and built to keep them out) they don't get in. If they get in (ignoring that the Police will be closer than they were before you called them) you get a chance to stop them or, at least, slow them down. If you can overpower them then you will do so, if you can't and they are determibed to hurt your family you might have given the Police more time to protect them.
But open the door, you know the inorganic object that is there, precisely, to protect your family from dangers outside, are you f**king mad?
Most people (and I'm including those that have has specific training) are significantly less able to 'deal with' people than they think they are. Famous hard people get a kicking from a stranger from time to time. What's worse is that if someone was just going to steal your wallet, your phone and a your car if you left the keys out then they will probably run away rather than get involved in a fight. Come at them with a knife or a bat and they will fight to the death to avoid you killing them.
The news often has stories of stupid heroes that 'rush in' and leave a wife and children on their own when they find out that they are not, in actual fact, Liam Neeson from Taken. What is worse if that if you pi$$ him off while you're dying on the floor he might just as well kill your family for good measure - especially if they can identify him.
I'm also guessing that none of you wanna be heroes have had someone threaten you with a knife while your family is asleep upstairs.
Wasn't this the case of the chap in Essex and his father who confronted thieves trying to take a moped from their house. The son in his late twenties and the dad were both doormen an security guys. Obviously felt they could handle themselves. the son was stabbed and died !
Wasn't this the case of the chap in Essex and his father who confronted thieves trying to take a moped from their house. The son in his late twenties and the dad were both doormen an security guys. Obviously felt they could handle themselves. the son was stabbed and died !
off topic a bit .. there was a story a while ago about someone who called old bill to report an intruder .. 'is he still in the house' asked the controller .. 'actually I think I just killed him' came the (not true) reply .. OB was round there in less than 2 minutes .. It can be done, just need to get the chaps out of their cars or the canteen on a cold night
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
In case the intruder is armed
What is a knife going to do if he is armed, if anything it is going to get you in more trouble as there is an intent when charged due to the fact you have gone to get a weapon in the knowledge of it could kill someone. If you aren't confident on handling yourself then get a baseball bat, it's an extension to your attack and defence without potentially murdering someone.
Knife, bat, club or whatever the point i was trying to make is that IF you are going to open the door be prepared for the intruder to be armed. If you are not confident in that situation stay indoors and dial 999. And yes mate i am confident that i can handle myself.
So if you had a family indoors you wouldn't go out and confront them and call 999 just to wait for the police to arrive.
If you read my post properly you will see that i said that i am confident that i can handle myself. So yes I would open the door and yes I would be armed
Your no spring chicken anymore. I suppose you could garrotte them with the cable from your electric blanket.
And chase them putting the wheelchair onto top speed.
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
In case the intruder is armed
What is a knife going to do if he is armed, if anything it is going to get you in more trouble as there is an intent when charged due to the fact you have gone to get a weapon in the knowledge of it could kill someone. If you aren't confident on handling yourself then get a baseball bat, it's an extension to your attack and defence without potentially murdering someone.
Knife, bat, club or whatever the point i was trying to make is that IF you are going to open the door be prepared for the intruder to be armed. If you are not confident in that situation stay indoors and dial 999. And yes mate i am confident that i can handle myself.
So if you had a family indoors you wouldn't go out and confront them and call 999 just to wait for the police to arrive.
If you read my post properly you will see that i said that i am confident that i can handle myself. So yes I would open the door and yes I would be armed
Your no spring chicken anymore. I suppose you could garrotte them with the cable from your electric blanket.
I was going to get Elfsborg to buy the first round next Friday. Now it's you buying: )
I retract everything I have said about you my dear friend.
Very simple open the door and kick the shit out of him. If my family were indoors it is a given. Why would you need a knife?
In case the intruder is armed
What is a knife going to do if he is armed, if anything it is going to get you in more trouble as there is an intent when charged due to the fact you have gone to get a weapon in the knowledge of it could kill someone. If you aren't confident on handling yourself then get a baseball bat, it's an extension to your attack and defence without potentially murdering someone.
Knife, bat, club or whatever the point i was trying to make is that IF you are going to open the door be prepared for the intruder to be armed. If you are not confident in that situation stay indoors and dial 999. And yes mate i am confident that i can handle myself.
So if you had a family indoors you wouldn't go out and confront them and call 999 just to wait for the police to arrive.
If you read my post properly you will see that i said that i am confident that i can handle myself. So yes I would open the door and yes I would be armed
Your no spring chicken anymore. I suppose you could garrotte them with the cable from your electric blanket.
And chase them putting the wheelchair onto top speed.
It's one of the reasons I started this thread You've got an intruder in your house 4am in the morning and I WE need to think of our actions to safeguard our family because someone has broken into mine your home. Of course it's irrelevant in my case this morning but it must happen in some cases where someone could be in the middle of fighting an intruder and there thinking I can't hurt them too much.
Yeah but it's impossible not to feel absolutely nails holding a massive machete or baseball bat
Then we land back in the real world where more people are hurt and killed with their own weapons than bad guys are.
Dogs are a deterrent. Dogs and signs warning people about dogs. Burglars don't like them.
It's all fun and games and we can all laugh about it but until you are in the situation you really don't know what you will do. I know what we would all like to do to scum but 99% of aquisitive thieves don't want to be in a fight. If you shouted at a junkie in the process if attempting to gain access they will scarper. Same with drunks who have got the wrong house.
I really feel for anyone who has had to deal with a situation like this, I have twice and both times caused me not to sleep properly for a while
My dogs breed was bred as a first line of defence in Italy for old castles, they would hear from miles away to notify the big dogs to then be thrown into action to defend from any intruders.
All well and good except she barks at John 16 houses down closing his front door, or at my next door neighbour farting.. The day someone intrudes she'll definitely let us know, without a shadow of a doubt, but given we have no other dogs - she'd probably end up licking said intruder and guiding them around the house.
I remember when my Mum and Dad were broken in to years ago.
Dad came down just as they were driving off in his car (he left the keys in the kitchen - never again!). He asked the policeman who took the report what would have happened had he got his hands on him (my Dad who is a placid man by nature almost scared himself thinking about it).
Dad told me the old bill said to him 'Dont worry, stick a cricket bat under your bed, houses are very 'slippery' when they get broken in to'.
Whether that is exactly what was said is up for debate, but thats what Dad reckons he was told.
Yeh, my next door neighbour has two big german shepherds that he keeps because he is paranoid about intruders. As he also works nights I get woken up by the fuckers barking in the early hours.
Ignorant twat he is. Although I enjoy waiting until I know he has gone to bed and then whacking my stereo on nice and loud.
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They'll be round, fully armed, in squad cars and helicopters within five minutes.
Was near the kitchen knife was nearest thing to hand.
Things turned out OK just hope it never happens to anyone else as standing in your hallway at 4am thinking someone's breaking in is not the the best feeling in the world.
I'd finished watching TV and was heading to bed when I heard something against the front door down the stairs that sounded like someone trying to get in. It then struck me that for me to go and check it out would involve going down the creaky stairs which would alert them to my presence well before I got there, and that if I opened the door to confront whoever it was then my kids would be right on top of it.
I really hadn't thought that through when moving in and froze while I thought what to do. Thankfully what was transpiring soon became clearer as the two people leaning against my door started arguing... loudly. They were a steaming drunk homeless male and female and they were having a right old barney. While I wanted to go deal with it, I at least calmed down a bit safe in the knowledge that at least they weren't an organised gang ready to come in and do my place over.
Then the woman started attacking the man, I could hear him screaming in pain and I decided that with the kids next to the front door I should definitely think twice about opening it.
It's funny because ringing the police seemed like the wuss thing to do, but there was no way I was opening the door and dealing with it myself with the kids there. As I was getting my phone to ring 999 the fighting outside stopped and I heard the female apologizing. Then silence. Then slurps. Then squelches. Then moans. Jesus.
By the time the police eventually turned up there'd been a few of these argument/fight/blowjob cycles, and I could hear one of the coppers having to tell the bloke to put his "weapon" away while he talked to him, before they kicked them out with a warning.
Anyway where was I. Oh, I dunno... something about before you knife the person outside your door be aware it could be the local smackheads having a shag or something I suppose.
You've got an intruder in your house 4am in the morning and I WE need to think of our actions to safeguard our family because someone has broken into mine your home.
Of course it's irrelevant in my case this morning but it must happen in some cases where someone could be in the middle of fighting an intruder and there thinking I can't hurt them too much.
If they see you inside they might be dissuaded and don't get in. If they can't get in through the door (which is, presumably, engineered and built to keep them out) they don't get in. If they get in (ignoring that the Police will be closer than they were before you called them) you get a chance to stop them or, at least, slow them down. If you can overpower them then you will do so, if you can't and they are determibed to hurt your family you might have given the Police more time to protect them.
But open the door, you know the inorganic object that is there, precisely, to protect your family from dangers outside, are you f**king mad?
Most people (and I'm including those that have has specific training) are significantly less able to 'deal with' people than they think they are. Famous hard people get a kicking from a stranger from time to time. What's worse is that if someone was just going to steal your wallet, your phone and a your car if you left the keys out then they will probably run away rather than get involved in a fight. Come at them with a knife or a bat and they will fight to the death to avoid you killing them.
The news often has stories of stupid heroes that 'rush in' and leave a wife and children on their own when they find out that they are not, in actual fact, Liam Neeson from Taken. What is worse if that if you pi$$ him off while you're dying on the floor he might just as well kill your family for good measure - especially if they can identify him.
I'm also guessing that none of you wanna be heroes have had someone threaten you with a knife while your family is asleep upstairs.
OB was round there in less than 2 minutes .. It can be done, just need to get the chaps out of their cars or the canteen on a cold night
Then we land back in the real world where more people are hurt and killed with their own weapons than bad guys are.
Dogs are a deterrent. Dogs and signs warning people about dogs. Burglars don't like them.
It's all fun and games and we can all laugh about it but until you are in the situation you really don't know what you will do. I know what we would all like to do to scum but 99% of aquisitive thieves don't want to be in a fight. If you shouted at a junkie in the process if attempting to gain access they will scarper. Same with drunks who have got the wrong house.
I really feel for anyone who has had to deal with a situation like this, I have twice and both times caused me not to sleep properly for a while
All well and good except she barks at John 16 houses down closing his front door, or at my next door neighbour farting.. The day someone intrudes she'll definitely let us know, without a shadow of a doubt, but given we have no other dogs - she'd probably end up licking said intruder and guiding them around the house.
Dad came down just as they were driving off in his car (he left the keys in the kitchen - never again!). He asked the policeman who took the report what would have happened had he got his hands on him (my Dad who is a placid man by nature almost scared himself thinking about it).
Dad told me the old bill said to him 'Dont worry, stick a cricket bat under your bed, houses are very 'slippery' when they get broken in to'.
Whether that is exactly what was said is up for debate, but thats what Dad reckons he was told.
Ignorant twat he is. Although I enjoy waiting until I know he has gone to bed and then whacking my stereo on nice and loud.