Sorry,but it's sad that some of our fans are only happy when they have something to moan about
Don't be sad, because RD has made lots of us really jolly by giving a shed load of stuff to moan about, hasn't he. I'm really pleased you enjoyed an unnecessary relegation and all those managers passing through. So don't be sad, enjoy yourself.
Sorry,but it's sad that some of our fans are only happy when they have something to moan about
What a bloody silly comment......just for a moment let's assume that's true, then how do you know they wouldn't be even happier if they 'didn't' have something to moan about. I hope you can all follow that.......well I know what I mean anyway.
Been away. only caught up with this thread this morning.....
Then caught up with the advent calendar thread Day 10...the final scene.....!!!!!!
Roland and Katrien ------what the hell have you done?
All the best to Karl Robinson on the pitch but the heart and soul of Charlton Athletic have been stripped out of of The Valley by those two... you can't repair that I'm afraid Karl.
Am reasonably happy with Robinson's appointment, but like the majority on here I refuse to countenance any real change while the terrible duo are running the club. I too believe Roland is here for the long haul. Anyway, we know where Katie stands on the running of the club - no matter what division we are playing in - nurture good young players and then sell them to 'balance' the books. Can anyone gainsay this?
He may well turn out to be great for the club, I sincerely hope he does, but to suggest this is a new beginning (with the context of Duchatelet's ownership) is fanciful to the extreme.
Plenty yet to be established before we should accept the management of the club.
- Duchatelet remains the owner - Duchatelet continues to meddle in team affairs - The incompetent Katrien Meire remains the CEO - Thomas Driesen's inolvement continues - The club continue to believe that the issues remain elsewhere and that it is a small group of ringleaders shouting for a non-existent majority. As proved by the quite frankly ridiculous investment in PR and communications.
For me, the change is minimal and I continue to find the situation depressing, despite what Karl Robinson says in a post-match interview.
The boycotters are perfectly justified.
FFS - Would you be happy if we had lost - Just no pleasing some people!
Bizarre response.
No, I wouldn't have been because I support Charlton.
I just don't believe that two 0-0 draws, with the back drop of the last couple of years, can in anyway signal a new beginning.
We could appoint Guardiola, and I still wouldn't come back until KM and RD were gone.
If CARD or another right-minded organisation ran a "everyone back for one game" exercise to show RD's potential purchaser that we are still out here and genuine 17-18K or more crowds are still more than viable once the muppets are gone, I'd be back for that. Nothing else though.
I'm beginning to like KR, but the problem is everything above him in the structure, and nothing has changed there.
He may well turn out to be great for the club, I sincerely hope he does, but to suggest this is a new beginning (with the context of Duchatelet's ownership) is fanciful to the extreme.
Plenty yet to be established before we should accept the management of the club.
- Duchatelet remains the owner - Duchatelet continues to meddle in team affairs - The incompetent Katrien Meire remains the CEO - Thomas Driesen's inolvement continues - The club continue to believe that the issues remain elsewhere and that it is a small group of ringleaders shouting for a non-existent majority. As proved by the quite frankly ridiculous investment in PR and communications.
For me, the change is minimal and I continue to find the situation depressing, despite what Karl Robinson says in a post-match interview.
The boycotters are perfectly justified.
FFS - Would you be happy if we had lost - Just no pleasing some people!
Do you not think it's a little unrealistic to ask 4,000 people to reverse their position after two goalless draws? At least let's win the cup replay first!
No not unrealistic - but just trying ask to ask the better-nature of some of our fans to give him a chance and come and support the team.I really don't think that is asking to much.
I think most protesters and boycotters have continued to back the team - and unless they have proved to be chumps, the manager - while strongly opposing the regime, so nothing will have changed there.
I would probably come back under Duchatalet's ownership if the hapless and poisonous Meire were to be removed. Until then ...
He may well turn out to be great for the club, I sincerely hope he does, but to suggest this is a new beginning (with the context of Duchatelet's ownership) is fanciful to the extreme.
Plenty yet to be established before we should accept the management of the club.
- Duchatelet remains the owner - Duchatelet continues to meddle in team affairs - The incompetent Katrien Meire remains the CEO - Thomas Driesen's inolvement continues - The club continue to believe that the issues remain elsewhere and that it is a small group of ringleaders shouting for a non-existent majority. As proved by the quite frankly ridiculous investment in PR and communications.
For me, the change is minimal and I continue to find the situation depressing, despite what Karl Robinson says in a post-match interview.
The boycotters are perfectly justified.
FFS - Would you be happy if we had lost - Just no pleasing some people!
Do you not think it's a little unrealistic to ask 4,000 people to reverse their position after two goalless draws? At least let's win the cup replay first!
No not unrealistic - but just trying ask to ask the better-nature of some of our fans to give him a chance and come and support the team.I really don't think that is asking to much.
I think most protesters and boycotters have continued to back the team - and unless they have proved to be chumps, the manager - while strongly opposing the regime, so nothing will have changed there.
I would probably come back under Duchatalet's ownership if the hapless and poisonous Meire were to be removed. Until then ...
Surely statistically MOST boycotters haven't continued to back the team
He may well turn out to be great for the club, I sincerely hope he does, but to suggest this is a new beginning (with the context of Duchatelet's ownership) is fanciful to the extreme.
Plenty yet to be established before we should accept the management of the club.
- Duchatelet remains the owner - Duchatelet continues to meddle in team affairs - The incompetent Katrien Meire remains the CEO - Thomas Driesen's inolvement continues - The club continue to believe that the issues remain elsewhere and that it is a small group of ringleaders shouting for a non-existent majority. As proved by the quite frankly ridiculous investment in PR and communications.
For me, the change is minimal and I continue to find the situation depressing, despite what Karl Robinson says in a post-match interview.
The boycotters are perfectly justified.
FFS - Would you be happy if we had lost - Just no pleasing some people!
Do you not think it's a little unrealistic to ask 4,000 people to reverse their position after two goalless draws? At least let's win the cup replay first!
No not unrealistic - but just trying ask to ask the better-nature of some of our fans to give him a chance and come and support the team.I really don't think that is asking to much.
I think most protesters and boycotters have continued to back the team - and unless they have proved to be chumps, the manager - while strongly opposing the regime, so nothing will have changed there.
I would probably come back under Duchatalet's ownership if the hapless and poisonous Meire were to be removed. Until then ...
Surely statistically MOST boycotters haven't continued to back the team
As others have already stated, KR seems like one of the good guys.
He comes across to me as a showman - a gaffer who clearly is demonstrative & pretty touchy feely and who wears his heart on his sleeve.
However, I too question how he would deal with enforced outgoings in the January window and/or negotiations with SWMBO regarding players he wants to add to his squad.
I profess to knowing little of his tenure at MKDons apart from the fact that Addicks in general seemed to feel he was an arrogant manager. Did he have problems with his Chairman regarding additions to his team or did he know from day one that his budget was limited ? Did he have a Chairman/CEO that he could trust and respect ?
Guess what I'm trying ( very badly) to say is that the current CAFC is a whole new ball game for him - one that he will know has been deemed a poisoned chalice by others of his ilk.
For a young manager, the challenge at Charlton will undoubtedly be an exciting one....but unless "our" leopards have changed their spots, I have to wonder whether he was given the truth, the whole truth & nothing but the truth when engaging in that looong talk in Paris. The proof of the Xmas pudding etc etc.
I DO hope that KR is the man to take us onwards & upwards & wish him all the best in his dealings with the regime - he'll need it.
He certainly talks the talk, but the question is, can he walk the walk too, unencumbered by the chains of restraint put in place by those from the Dark Side.
I don't remember Curbs being very media friendly but he was perhaps from a different generation when some managers felt that their job was just on the pitch and training ground and the rest was a nuisance.
KR is younger and gets it that today managing the media is important for the profile and image of the club (and the manager).
I didn't really care that Curbs wasn't media friendly as he produced good teams that won games.
I don't really care if Robinson is media friendly as long as he produces good teams that win games.
He may well turn out to be great for the club, I sincerely hope he does, but to suggest this is a new beginning (with the context of Duchatelet's ownership) is fanciful to the extreme.
Plenty yet to be established before we should accept the management of the club.
- Duchatelet remains the owner - Duchatelet continues to meddle in team affairs - The incompetent Katrien Meire remains the CEO - Thomas Driesen's inolvement continues - The club continue to believe that the issues remain elsewhere and that it is a small group of ringleaders shouting for a non-existent majority. As proved by the quite frankly ridiculous investment in PR and communications.
For me, the change is minimal and I continue to find the situation depressing, despite what Karl Robinson says in a post-match interview.
The boycotters are perfectly justified.
FFS - Would you be happy if we had lost - Just no pleasing some people!
Do you not think it's a little unrealistic to ask 4,000 people to reverse their position after two goalless draws? At least let's win the cup replay first!
No not unrealistic - but just trying ask to ask the better-nature of some of our fans to give him a chance and come and support the team.I really don't think that is asking to much.
I think most protesters and boycotters have continued to back the team - and unless they have proved to be chumps, the manager - while strongly opposing the regime, so nothing will have changed there.
I would probably come back under Duchatalet's ownership if the hapless and poisonous Meire were to be removed. Until then ...
Surely statistically MOST boycotters haven't continued to back the team
Round and round in circles we go.
are you implying that all boycotters have continued to back the team and that the fans not turning up are not boycotting ?
I don't remember Curbs being very media friendly but he was perhaps from a different generation when some managers felt that their job was just on the pitch and training ground and the rest was a nuisance.
I don't really care if Robinson is media friendly as long as he produces good teams that win games.
karl robinson is a breath of fresh air: win lose or draw and he is what i as a fan want to be inspired and enthused by. i really really hope he is successful for us and really hope we dont slate him too soon or because of some kind of other agenda
I hope he's good. I really do. But the people who run the club have to make seven bad decisions before they (might) make a good one?! I doubt the bloke stands a chance in the long run.
I think that if Karl even starts to feel that he's not getting the support that he has obviously been promised or feels that there is undue interference, he's not the sort of character who will be able to hide it.
If we see the exuberance and enthusiasm drain away then I think we will all know the score.
Things would have been much worse had he won two games. At least we can now reserve our optimism and come out punching if we lose a game soon. Lots of people sitting on the fence. I'm getting off, this man will be a Charlton legend.
I don't remember Curbs being very media friendly but he was perhaps from a different generation when some managers felt that their job was just on the pitch and training ground and the rest was a nuisance.
I don't really care if Robinson is media friendly as long as he produces good teams that win games.
It's 'p'raps' actually.
Curbs is very "media friendly" now. But then he's had to learn to be given it's over eight years now since he managed at a club.
He may well turn out to be great for the club, I sincerely hope he does, but to suggest this is a new beginning (with the context of Duchatelet's ownership) is fanciful to the extreme.
Plenty yet to be established before we should accept the management of the club.
- Duchatelet remains the owner - Duchatelet continues to meddle in team affairs - The incompetent Katrien Meire remains the CEO - Thomas Driesen's inolvement continues - The club continue to believe that the issues remain elsewhere and that it is a small group of ringleaders shouting for a non-existent majority. As proved by the quite frankly ridiculous investment in PR and communications.
For me, the change is minimal and I continue to find the situation depressing, despite what Karl Robinson says in a post-match interview.
The boycotters are perfectly justified.
FFS - Would you be happy if we had lost - Just no pleasing some people!
Do you not think it's a little unrealistic to ask 4,000 people to reverse their position after two goalless draws? At least let's win the cup replay first!
No not unrealistic - but just trying ask to ask the better-nature of some of our fans to give him a chance and come and support the team.I really don't think that is asking to much.
I think most protesters and boycotters have continued to back the team - and unless they have proved to be chumps, the manager - while strongly opposing the regime, so nothing will have changed there.
I would probably come back under Duchatalet's ownership if the hapless and poisonous Meire were to be removed. Until then ...
Surely statistically MOST boycotters haven't continued to back the team
Round and round in circles we go.
are you implying that all boycotters have continued to back the team and that the fans not turning up are not boycotting ?
That doesn't actually make any sense. You're tying yourself up in your own knots here.
He may well turn out to be great for the club, I sincerely hope he does, but to suggest this is a new beginning (with the context of Duchatelet's ownership) is fanciful to the extreme.
Plenty yet to be established before we should accept the management of the club.
- Duchatelet remains the owner - Duchatelet continues to meddle in team affairs - The incompetent Katrien Meire remains the CEO - Thomas Driesen's inolvement continues - The club continue to believe that the issues remain elsewhere and that it is a small group of ringleaders shouting for a non-existent majority. As proved by the quite frankly ridiculous investment in PR and communications.
For me, the change is minimal and I continue to find the situation depressing, despite what Karl Robinson says in a post-match interview.
The boycotters are perfectly justified.
FFS - Would you be happy if we had lost - Just no pleasing some people!
Do you not think it's a little unrealistic to ask 4,000 people to reverse their position after two goalless draws? At least let's win the cup replay first!
No not unrealistic - but just trying ask to ask the better-nature of some of our fans to give him a chance and come and support the team.I really don't think that is asking to much.
I think most protesters and boycotters have continued to back the team - and unless they have proved to be chumps, the manager - while strongly opposing the regime, so nothing will have changed there.
I would probably come back under Duchatalet's ownership if the hapless and poisonous Meire were to be removed. Until then ...
Surely statistically MOST boycotters haven't continued to back the team
Round and round in circles we go.
are you implying that all boycotters have continued to back the team and that the fans not turning up are not boycotting ?
That doesn't actually make any sense. You're tying yourself up in your own knots here.
1/10. Poor.
You need to keep up with the thread, confusing as it is
There was a statement made earlier that MOST boycotters have continued to back the team which I questioned because if it was actually true it would mean a) the boycotters would have to be regularly turning up for games to back the team (unless it was just away games but then the numbers don't really suggest that is the case); and b) the missing fans that are not turning up are doing so for reasons other than they are boycotting
I don't remember Curbs being very media friendly but he was perhaps from a different generation when some managers felt that their job was just on the pitch and training ground and the rest was a nuisance.
KR is younger and gets it that today managing the media is important for the profile and image of the club (and the manager).
I didn't really care that Curbs wasn't media friendly as he produced good teams that won games.
I don't really care if Robinson is media friendly as long as he produces good teams that win games.
Lennie Lawrence was very media friendly, they knew he would always give them interesting, eloquent and honest comments. Maybe too honest sometimes!
Things are so desperate for the apologists that even a 0.0 draw at Bradford now merits a 'new beginning'.
Anyone "brimming with confidence" about Charlton Athletic based on the hard evidence of the last three years is either stupid or being paid to say so.
We are two consecutive defeats away from Congo Chris and absolutely nothing substantial has changed except we have stopped scoring and have an expensive PR genius in place when we should have spent the money on a midfielder capable of running.
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I'm really pleased you enjoyed an unnecessary relegation and all those managers passing through. So don't be sad, enjoy yourself.
I hope you can all follow that.......well I know what I mean anyway.
only caught up with this thread this morning.....
Then caught up with the advent calendar thread Day 10...the final scene.....!!!!!!
Roland and Katrien ------what the hell have you done?
All the best to Karl Robinson on the pitch but the heart and soul of Charlton Athletic have been stripped out of of The Valley by those two... you can't repair that I'm afraid Karl.
No, I wouldn't have been because I support Charlton.
I just don't believe that two 0-0 draws, with the back drop of the last couple of years, can in anyway signal a new beginning.
If CARD or another right-minded organisation ran a "everyone back for one game" exercise to show RD's potential purchaser that we are still out here and genuine 17-18K or more crowds are still more than viable once the muppets are gone, I'd be back for that. Nothing else though.
I'm beginning to like KR, but the problem is everything above him in the structure, and nothing has changed there.
I would probably come back under Duchatalet's ownership if the hapless and poisonous Meire were to be removed. Until then ...
He comes across to me as a showman - a gaffer who clearly is demonstrative & pretty touchy feely and who wears his heart on his sleeve.
However, I too question how he would deal with enforced outgoings in the January window and/or negotiations with SWMBO regarding players he wants to add to his squad.
I profess to knowing little of his tenure at MKDons apart from the fact that Addicks in general seemed to feel he was an arrogant manager. Did he have problems with his Chairman regarding additions to his team or did he know from day one that his budget was limited ? Did he have a Chairman/CEO that he could trust and respect ?
Guess what I'm trying ( very badly) to say is that the current CAFC is a whole new ball game for him - one that he will know has been deemed a poisoned chalice by others of his ilk.
For a young manager, the challenge at Charlton will undoubtedly be an exciting one....but unless "our" leopards have changed their spots, I have to wonder whether he was given the truth, the whole truth & nothing but the truth when engaging in that looong talk in Paris. The proof of the Xmas pudding etc etc.
I DO hope that KR is the man to take us onwards & upwards & wish him all the best in his dealings with the regime - he'll need it.
He certainly talks the talk, but the question is, can he walk the walk too, unencumbered by the chains of restraint put in place by those from the Dark Side.
KR is younger and gets it that today managing the media is important for the profile and image of the club (and the manager).
I didn't really care that Curbs wasn't media friendly as he produced good teams that won games.
I don't really care if Robinson is media friendly as long as he produces good teams that win games.
If we see the exuberance and enthusiasm drain away then I think we will all know the score.
1/10. Poor.
There was a statement made earlier that MOST boycotters have continued to back the team which I questioned because if it was actually true it would mean a) the boycotters would have to be regularly turning up for games to back the team (unless it was just away games but then the numbers don't really suggest that is the case); and b) the missing fans that are not turning up are doing so for reasons other than they are boycotting
Anyone "brimming with confidence" about Charlton Athletic based on the hard evidence of the last three years is either stupid or being paid to say so.
We are two consecutive defeats away from Congo Chris and absolutely nothing substantial has changed except we have stopped scoring and have an expensive PR genius in place when we should have spent the money on a midfielder capable of running.