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  • JP Duminy has been released from the SA squad to go home.

    It does seem that it's because he's not needed, rather than a personal issue
  • I think that if he bowled another 7-8MPH quicker, then he would be a very useful cricketer.

    Unfortunately in the shorter formats, he bowls at that 'Hoggie' pace of around 78-82mph, which at that level tends to be very hittable.

    That is unless you look at someone like Jimmy Faulkner (the Aussie), who is about the same pace, but has a real variety in his bowling.

    Or Vernon Philander or Glenn Mcgrath,
    Willey can't be compared to Glenn McGrath mate!!

    Philander is a bit different again, in that he bowls straight and it skids on whilst doing a bit in the air or off the pitch - similar to Hoggie.

    The comparison for Willey would be Chris Woakes, whom looked like a real county trundler when he first broke through, but is now bowling regularly over 85MPH. I have heard that he put in a lot of gym work, and gained muscle to increase his speed, as he knew that he wasn't quick enough.

    When I have watched Willy in recent times, he looks like a bit of a weak leak in the bowling attack.
  • I think that if he bowled another 7-8MPH quicker, then he would be a very useful cricketer.

    Unfortunately in the shorter formats, he bowls at that 'Hoggie' pace of around 78-82mph, which at that level tends to be very hittable.

    That is unless you look at someone like Jimmy Faulkner (the Aussie), who is about the same pace, but has a real variety in his bowling.

    Or Vernon Philander or Glenn Mcgrath,
    Willey can't be compared to Glenn McGrath mate!!

    Philander is a bit different again, in that he bowls straight and it skids on whilst doing a bit in the air or off the pitch - similar to Hoggie.

    The comparison for Willey would be Chris Woakes, whom looked like a real county trundler when he first broke through, but is now bowling regularly over 85MPH. I have heard that he put in a lot of gym work, and gained muscle to increase his speed, as he knew that he wasn't quick enough.

    When I have watched Willy in recent times, he looks like a bit of a weak leak in the bowling attack.
    his ODI bowling average isn't much worse than likes of Plunkett and Broad, and he is a better batsman than them 2. Decent player if it's swinging, perhaps only a back up if its not.
  • edited July 2017

    I think that if he bowled another 7-8MPH quicker, then he would be a very useful cricketer.

    Unfortunately in the shorter formats, he bowls at that 'Hoggie' pace of around 78-82mph, which at that level tends to be very hittable.

    That is unless you look at someone like Jimmy Faulkner (the Aussie), who is about the same pace, but has a real variety in his bowling.

    Or Vernon Philander or Glenn Mcgrath,
    Willey can't be compared to Glenn McGrath mate!!

    Philander is a bit different again, in that he bowls straight and it skids on whilst doing a bit in the air or off the pitch - similar to Hoggie.

    The comparison for Willey would be Chris Woakes, whom looked like a real county trundler when he first broke through, but is now bowling regularly over 85MPH. I have heard that he put in a lot of gym work, and gained muscle to increase his speed, as he knew that he wasn't quick enough.

    When I have watched Willy in recent times, he looks like a bit of a weak leak in the bowling attack.
    In terms of speed he can, which is what the crux of the previous comment was about.
  • Toby Roland-Jones to make his Test debut tomorrow, with Wood not fit
  • I'm pleased for him - will do well, i'm sure.
  • Strengthens the batting even further
  • Double barrelled name, should play for Charlton
  • Very good addition, I really like Wood but he hasn't been terribly effective in test cricket as yet. His time will come and f he stays fit.
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  • Strengthens the batting even further

    barely, Wood's not been too bad actually. Roland-Jones can carry a bat but I want him to take wickets, not score runs.
  • This is quite a difficult quiz - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/40720980

    9/10 Got the Ducks one wrong.
  • 8/10 also the ducks, I hate to say got The ashes one wrong, I will hang up my cricket box in shame
  • Strengthens the batting even further

    barely, Wood's not been too bad actually. Roland-Jones can carry a bat but I want him to take wickets, not score runs.
    Yes Wood can bat. But bats below Broad. TRJ could be classed aa a proper all rounder, he has on occasion batted as high as 6. He will certainly bat ahead of broad.

    I agree we should be picking bowlers for their wickets and their batting is largely irrelevant given we already have allrounders. But he is certainly a step up from wood on the batting front.
  • sorta agree on both fronts.
    is Dawson likely to play?
    we should bat a long way down and I'm sure we won't bat as badly as we did in first innings last test .
    we tend to enjoy The Oval but can't get out of my head the last time we played SA there and Amla seemed to bat for 4 days and got a thousand runs on his own
  • The weather forecast for tomorrow afternoon is showers, then pretty grim on Friday afternoon. Not conditions for the spinners really
  • I'm going on Friday. that weather can f*** off
  • McBobbin said:

    I'm going on Friday. that weather can f*** off

    I'm going tomorrow. I've told the rain clouds to f*ck off until Friday :smile:
  • Going Saturday, but in recent years, I swear we've spent more time at the oval in the bar areas due to rain than watching the cricket. Forecast currently looks good but I dare say will change.
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  • Don't see Wood as a long term test bowler, will possibly be one of those guys suited to the shorter formats (Malinga etc).

    We look to be missing some real pace, or a nasty bowler who can rough the oppo up a bit and shake things up.

    Steve Finn was supposed to be the man for this role, but the last I heard he was morphing into more of Angus Fraser type, and is no longer a 90 MPH bowler.

    Real shame as he had all of the tools to be one of the great England bowlers.
  • Three debutants, we won the toss and we are having a bat.
  • Really miss the Oval test, I had the great pleasure of seeing the Devon Malcolm test, phenomenal performance
  • looking forward to this one .. since moving from London, not going to the Oval test is one of the experiences I miss the most
  • I like the Malan pick a lot. Let's hope he does the business.
  • Important couple of sessions ahead. The Saffers will be keen to get at our inexperienced (in Test terms) batsmen.
  • Cone on Tom! He's been very good the last couple of seasons, especially in 1 day. He's a lot more dynamic than the previous top order
  • I like Malan but as I've said before I'm disappointed they've shoved Bairstow back to 7
  • 12-1

    Jennings c Elgar b Philander 0

    No surprise, I'd have dropped him.
  • Westley in against the best seamer in the world on a moist morning...good luck
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