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  • Well, before I get ticked off for turning this into a new restaurant thread, I'll throw in an overall comment that relates directly to the thread title.

    For sure we are still good at things. But when it comes to consumer things, be they goods or services, what strikes me as someone living in mainland Europe and returning 5-6 times a year, is that so much is so bloody expensive, but often for no obvious reason. I suppose that's one reason why people don't go out of their way to buy British more. It's a luxury too many cannot afford.
  • I agree, the cost over here can be ridiculous at times.
  • Not really answering the question, but when I am in Yorkshire, I buy as much as I can carry from the farm shops there.. Local farm sells eggs at the gate..laid that morning (possibly the morning before) and always bloody superb (and at £2 - £3 for 24, an excellent price too).. Meat is cheaper (and better)...the only items that don't make financial sense are the home made breads/pies and cakes BUT they are worth it as they are, quite simply, better than anything you buy in a supermarket... You look for similar down here and the farm shops have all been ponced up and over priced and seem to only sell jams and chutneys... (or I'm looking in the wrong places).
  • it's been difficult, to say the least, for many years to buy British .. China rules the roost re most things 'manufactured' and newly 'industrialised' nations such as Bangladesh, Cambodia and Vietnam are increasingly dominating clothing manufacturing.
    Food is imported from all over the world as is coal, gas and oil. In the building of the second Forth Bridge, the Scottish government bought Chinese, as UK steel manufacturers could not guarantee the required quality and delivery times

    I am reading in dribs and drabs a book which details the economics of World War l .. as far back as then, Britain was dependant on imported foodstuffs, this, in an era when a banana or tomato was regarded as 'exotic' let alone (e.g.) kiwi fruit, peaches or avocados which nowadays are demanded all year round by consumers irrespective of the season.
    Britain is a trading nation, always has been and always will be, and, excuse the political point, that is why we need to break away from a German dominated Europe and develop our own industry, trade deals and business partners that are not dictated and directed by Berlin politicians or some Latvian bureaucrat in Brussels
  • When I first went to work, (in Ashford) there was a bakery where for lunch I'd buy a crusty, just baked roll, with a thick slice of English cheddar cheese and a couple of slices of local tomato, I've never been able to duplicate it in 40 plus years of living in the U.S. and travel to other parts. I can taste it from here.
  • There is a Belgo in Bromley
  • edited February 2017

    it's been difficult, to say the least, for many years to buy British .. China rules the roost re most things 'manufactured' and newly 'industrialised' nations such as Bangladesh, Cambodia and Vietnam are increasingly dominating clothing manufacturing.
    Food is imported from all over the world as is coal, gas and oil. In the building of the second Forth Bridge, the Scottish government bought Chinese, as UK steel manufacturers could not guarantee the required quality and delivery times

    I am reading in dribs and drabs a book which details the economics of World War l .. as far back as then, Britain was dependant on imported foodstuffs, this, in an era when a banana or tomato was regarded as 'exotic' let alone (e.g.) kiwi fruit, peaches or avocados which nowadays are demanded all year round by consumers irrespective of the season.
    Britain is a trading nation, always has been and always will be, and, excuse the political point, that is why we need to break away from a German dominated Europe and develop our own industry, trade deals and business partners that are not dictated and directed by Berlin politicians or some Latvian bureaucrat in Brussels

    What a shame. We have all managed not to politicise the thread until now. :wink:
  • Well, before I get ticked off for turning this into a new restaurant thread, I'll throw in an overall comment that relates directly to the thread title.

    For sure we are still good at things. But when it comes to consumer things, be they goods or services, what strikes me as someone living in mainland Europe and returning 5-6 times a year, is that so much is so bloody expensive, but often for no obvious reason. I suppose that's one reason why people don't go out of their way to buy British more. It's a luxury too many cannot afford.

    I find Britain incredibly expensive also, coming over from the U.S.
  • I just buy the cheapest or the nearest. Being made in Britain is well down on the list of priorities when choosing a product.
  • Gloucester motorway service station.
    Best in Britain for local produce?

    Taking a leaf out of the Japanese book, where only local produce is allowed, giving each services a unique flavour and selling point. No chain shops allowed in Japanese service stations, nationally.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/06/m5-motorway-service-station-paradise-foodies
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  • Gloucester motorway service station.
    Best in Britain for local produce?

    Taking a leaf out of the Japanese book, where only local produce is allowed, giving each services a unique flavour and selling point. No chain shops allowed in Japanese service stations, nationally.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/06/m5-motorway-service-station-paradise-foodies

    This isn't bad either - always stop here if I'm driving to Scotland.

    http://www.tebayservices.com/
  • edited February 2017
    bobmunro said:

    Gloucester motorway service station.
    Best in Britain for local produce?

    Taking a leaf out of the Japanese book, where only local produce is allowed, giving each services a unique flavour and selling point. No chain shops allowed in Japanese service stations, nationally.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/06/m5-motorway-service-station-paradise-foodies

    This isn't bad either - always stop here if I'm driving to Scotland.

    http://www.tebayservices.com/
    Same family set it up.
    Always worth planning a stop.

    Love the plans for on site bee hives for really local honey production.
  • Always planned a car older than me for my 50th, was thinking a predictable sports car, now I'm under 2 years from the event I'm really starting to think about a wish list, sports not so important now and comfort is, also the British thing appeals, as do availability of parts, probably ruin me but a Jaguar xj6 coupe is the clear favourite.
  • I went to Tuscany for a wedding, and in a deli I saw some of Essex's finest tiptree jam in amongst the local Italian fare. Made me want to put on some white stilettos and sing "Firestarter"
  • Always planned a car older than me for my 50th, was thinking a predictable sports car, now I'm under 2 years from the event I'm really starting to think about a wish list, sports not so important now and comfort is, also the British thing appeals, as do availability of parts, probably ruin me but a Jaguar xj6 coupe is the clear favourite.

    A Jag for the older gentleman...plenty of room...spare parts... :smile:

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  • That's an XF. I didn't know that was in the range, do they do that model with a V6?
  • She'll never run to a XF Hurst, recycling bin far more likely.
  • Gloucester motorway service station.
    Best in Britain for local produce?

    Taking a leaf out of the Japanese book, where only local produce is allowed, giving each services a unique flavour and selling point. No chain shops allowed in Japanese service stations, nationally.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/06/m5-motorway-service-station-paradise-foodies

    I drive past that service station everyday, other service stations really do need to take note. I know of lots of people who purposely stop their on their travels and I often nip in to grab good produce for dinner.
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  • Chizz said:

    We make all the best cars in the world here. They're designed here, financed here and, in the most part, manufactured here.

    We make the world's best bottled, canned and draught beer and lager here. Including growing the hops, barley and other ingredients, harvesting, brewing, bottling and exporting, worldwide. Same with the finest wine. We grow it on vineyards here, harvest it with workers from here, make it here and export it across the world. Same with spirits. We make the best whisky, gin, brandy, vodka, absinthe, grappa, schnapps, limoncello and sherry here.

    We make the best dairy products here. The best hard and soft cheeses in the world. We grow, harvest, package, ship and sell all of the best agricultural products in the world here - from reindeer to truffles; pasta to rice, onions to oives; strawberries to lemons, melons to pears, cherries to bananas; cattle, sheep, pigs, fowl - wild and farmed; fish - from farmed samon to wild crabs and everything in between.

    We have world-leading technology, nanotechnology and biological innovative industries here. We have the world-leading space, aeronauts, electronics, military vehicles, ships and armory industries here. The chemical industry here comprises of 27 percent of the world’s total production, in addition to leading petrochemicals, polymers and fine chemicals industries.

    We design and make some of the best white goods, building products, garden equipment, clothes, swimming pools, bicycles, trains, planes, leather goods, hats and software in the world, right here.

    And, if you want a holiday, we have some of the best resorts, hotels, cruises, beaches, mountaineering, skiing facilities and sunshine anywhere in the world.

    (Problem is, "here" is the EU).

    Actually, a lot of that is true of the UK. We make (and design) some of the world's best cars here, it's just the companies that do it are owned by the Americans, Germans, Indians or Japanese.

    Beer - yes, apart from lager, we do make much of the world's best. Not wine, but we do with whisky and gin. Oh and cider too.
    Dairy - great cheeses. A good cheddar really is as good as anything you'll get elsewhere, and even an ok one is perfectly edible. Fruit and veg - not sure much of the latter gets exported, but our apples and pears are world class and, in season, so are our soft fruits. Good quality beef, pork and lamb, and if our fisheries are allowed to recover, there will be more from them. not sure I'd be boasting about farmed salmon - it's an ecological disaster. Much of the crab and shellfish exported comes from British waters.
    There are world-leading industries here - including in all of the sectors you list.
    OK - you've got a point on white goods, though I believe there are still some British manufacturers of decent cookers. But some of the rest of that list we do.
    And we don't have sunshine all the time, much mountaineering or skiing, but I would argue the UK is an exceptional place to visit. Outside of the SE you can sometimes even find good value local produce sold at reasonable prices.

  • I'll add that the biotech industry, from high tech SMEs, university spin offs and also big pharma are world leading and a major source of income. One thing that has to be 100% sorted is the ability to bring in world class scientists from around the world. Already some are putting off coming here due to the uncertainty. I've not heard any sensible brexiteers arguing against high quality immigration to fill shortages etc, and this is great but the message needs supporting
  • Always planned a car older than me for my 50th, was thinking a predictable sports car, now I'm under 2 years from the event I'm really starting to think about a wish list, sports not so important now and comfort is, also the British thing appeals, as do availability of parts, probably ruin me but a Jaguar xj6 coupe is the clear favourite.

    Hate to disappoint but they didn't start making the Coupe until '75.
  • Chizz said:

    We make all the best cars in the world here. They're designed here, financed here and, in the most part, manufactured here.

    We make the world's best bottled, canned and draught beer and lager here. Including growing the hops, barley and other ingredients, harvesting, brewing, bottling and exporting, worldwide. Same with the finest wine. We grow it on vineyards here, harvest it with workers from here, make it here and export it across the world. Same with spirits. We make the best whisky, gin, brandy, vodka, absinthe, grappa, schnapps, limoncello and sherry here.

    We make the best dairy products here. The best hard and soft cheeses in the world. We grow, harvest, package, ship and sell all of the best agricultural products in the world here - from reindeer to truffles; pasta to rice, onions to oives; strawberries to lemons, melons to pears, cherries to bananas; cattle, sheep, pigs, fowl - wild and farmed; fish - from farmed samon to wild crabs and everything in between.

    We have world-leading technology, nanotechnology and biological innovative industries here. We have the world-leading space, aeronauts, electronics, military vehicles, ships and armory industries here. The chemical industry here comprises of 27 percent of the world’s total production, in addition to leading petrochemicals, polymers and fine chemicals industries.

    We design and make some of the best white goods, building products, garden equipment, clothes, swimming pools, bicycles, trains, planes, leather goods, hats and software in the world, right here.

    And, if you want a holiday, we have some of the best resorts, hotels, cruises, beaches, mountaineering, skiing facilities and sunshine anywhere in the world.

    (Problem is, "here" is the EU).

    Seriously WTF !!!!!

    I can improve on all those stats if 'here' includes Asia, Africa and the Americas
  • here's a nice little British product I bought a few years ago. The Owl smart meter.. Mind you it was a right palava setting it up here with the continental wiring system. Well the controller eats up batteries, ironically for an energy saving tool, so I was just looking to see how the devices look, 8 years later, maybe it would be worth getting a new one...and I got as far as

    OWL +USB is a more advanced product with a PC link (not compatible with MAC) to upload usage data to store and review graphically.

    Muppets...
  • Chizz said:

    MrOneLung said:

    Chizz said:

    We make all the best cars in the world here. They're designed here, financed here and, in the most part, manufactured here.

    We make the world's best bottled, canned and draught beer and lager here. Including growing the hops, barley and other ingredients, harvesting, brewing, bottling and exporting, worldwide. Same with the finest wine. We grow it on vineyards here, harvest it with workers from here, make it here and export it across the world. Same with spirits. We make the best whisky, gin, brandy, vodka, absinthe, grappa, schnapps, limoncello and sherry here.

    We make the best dairy products here. The best hard and soft cheeses in the world. We grow, harvest, package, ship and sell all of the best agricultural products in the world here - from reindeer to truffles; pasta to rice, onions to oives; strawberries to lemons, melons to pears, cherries to bananas; cattle, sheep, pigs, fowl - wild and farmed; fish - from farmed samon to wild crabs and everything in between.

    We have world-leading technology, nanotechnology and biological innovative industries here. We have the world-leading space, aeronauts, electronics, military vehicles, ships and armory industries here. The chemical industry here comprises of 27 percent of the world’s total production, in addition to leading petrochemicals, polymers and fine chemicals industries.

    We design and make some of the best white goods, building products, garden equipment, clothes, swimming pools, bicycles, trains, planes, leather goods, hats and software in the world, right here.

    And, if you want a holiday, we have some of the best resorts, hotels, cruises, beaches, mountaineering, skiing facilities and sunshine anywhere in the world.

    (Problem is, "here" is the EU).

    Seriously WTF !!!!!

    I can improve on all those stats if 'here' includes Asia, Africa and the Americas
    But we're not in Asia, Africa or the Americas, whereas we are in the EU.
    But it's not HERE is it? it is just an organisation we currently belong to.

    Why not include Switzerland after all we are both in Europe.

    And I believe the thread is about buying British not buying British and other geopolitical groups we are members of/associated with.
  • MrOneLung said:

    Chizz said:

    MrOneLung said:

    Chizz said:

    We make all the best cars in the world here. They're designed here, financed here and, in the most part, manufactured here.

    We make the world's best bottled, canned and draught beer and lager here. Including growing the hops, barley and other ingredients, harvesting, brewing, bottling and exporting, worldwide. Same with the finest wine. We grow it on vineyards here, harvest it with workers from here, make it here and export it across the world. Same with spirits. We make the best whisky, gin, brandy, vodka, absinthe, grappa, schnapps, limoncello and sherry here.

    We make the best dairy products here. The best hard and soft cheeses in the world. We grow, harvest, package, ship and sell all of the best agricultural products in the world here - from reindeer to truffles; pasta to rice, onions to oives; strawberries to lemons, melons to pears, cherries to bananas; cattle, sheep, pigs, fowl - wild and farmed; fish - from farmed samon to wild crabs and everything in between.

    We have world-leading technology, nanotechnology and biological innovative industries here. We have the world-leading space, aeronauts, electronics, military vehicles, ships and armory industries here. The chemical industry here comprises of 27 percent of the world’s total production, in addition to leading petrochemicals, polymers and fine chemicals industries.

    We design and make some of the best white goods, building products, garden equipment, clothes, swimming pools, bicycles, trains, planes, leather goods, hats and software in the world, right here.

    And, if you want a holiday, we have some of the best resorts, hotels, cruises, beaches, mountaineering, skiing facilities and sunshine anywhere in the world.

    (Problem is, "here" is the EU).

    Seriously WTF !!!!!

    I can improve on all those stats if 'here' includes Asia, Africa and the Americas
    But we're not in Asia, Africa or the Americas, whereas we are in the EU.
    But it's not HERE is it? it is just an organisation we currently belong to.

    Why not include Switzerland after all we are both in Europe.

    And I believe the thread is about buying British not buying British and other geopolitical groups we are members of/associated with.
    For me, I think it's great that we can claim that the best (for example) wines, cars, olives, beer and seafood in the world is produced "here". Because, right now, we're here in England, part of Great Britain, within the United Kingdom and a constituent of the EU. And taxes earned on the sales of all these world-beating goods get spent on the citizens of the EU. That's us.

    In future, it will be interesting to see how proud English people will be of, for example, the Scotch whisky industry or tinplate production in Wales. Because we don't produce either of those "here" in England. And, at the same time, we won't have the kudos of being able to say that the best products in the world - without question - are produced "here"; and, more importantly, we won't benefit from the taxes they generate.

    Sure, we can limit ourselves just to buying British. But what an awful, bland, introspective, homogeneous and insipid prospect that would be.
  • You could buy British if you shopped here https://www.farmdrop.com
  • Chizz said:

    MrOneLung said:

    Chizz said:

    MrOneLung said:

    Chizz said:

    We make all the best cars in the world here. They're designed here, financed here and, in the most part, manufactured here.

    We make the world's best bottled, canned and draught beer and lager here. Including growing the hops, barley and other ingredients, harvesting, brewing, bottling and exporting, worldwide. Same with the finest wine. We grow it on vineyards here, harvest it with workers from here, make it here and export it across the world. Same with spirits. We make the best whisky, gin, brandy, vodka, absinthe, grappa, schnapps, limoncello and sherry here.

    We make the best dairy products here. The best hard and soft cheeses in the world. We grow, harvest, package, ship and sell all of the best agricultural products in the world here - from reindeer to truffles; pasta to rice, onions to oives; strawberries to lemons, melons to pears, cherries to bananas; cattle, sheep, pigs, fowl - wild and farmed; fish - from farmed samon to wild crabs and everything in between.

    We have world-leading technology, nanotechnology and biological innovative industries here. We have the world-leading space, aeronauts, electronics, military vehicles, ships and armory industries here. The chemical industry here comprises of 27 percent of the world’s total production, in addition to leading petrochemicals, polymers and fine chemicals industries.

    We design and make some of the best white goods, building products, garden equipment, clothes, swimming pools, bicycles, trains, planes, leather goods, hats and software in the world, right here.

    And, if you want a holiday, we have some of the best resorts, hotels, cruises, beaches, mountaineering, skiing facilities and sunshine anywhere in the world.

    (Problem is, "here" is the EU).

    Seriously WTF !!!!!

    I can improve on all those stats if 'here' includes Asia, Africa and the Americas
    But we're not in Asia, Africa or the Americas, whereas we are in the EU.
    But it's not HERE is it? it is just an organisation we currently belong to.

    Why not include Switzerland after all we are both in Europe.

    And I believe the thread is about buying British not buying British and other geopolitical groups we are members of/associated with.
    For me, I think it's great that we can claim that the best (for example) wines, cars, olives, beer and seafood in the world is produced "here". Because, right now, we're here in England, part of Great Britain, within the United Kingdom and a constituent of the EU. And taxes earned on the sales of all these world-beating goods get spent on the citizens of the EU. That's us.

    In future, it will be interesting to see how proud English people will be of, for example, the Scotch whisky industry or tinplate production in Wales. Because we don't produce either of those "here" in England. And, at the same time, we won't have the kudos of being able to say that the best products in the world - without question - are produced "here"; and, more importantly, we won't benefit from the taxes they generate.

    Sure, we can limit ourselves just to buying British. But what an awful, bland, introspective, homogeneous and insipid prospect that would be.
    Don't forget the commonwealth.

    As I said earlier in the thread. I am not particularly fussed about British provenance when it comes to buying something and even less so EU origins.
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