The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Didn’t realise you were in a rock band in your younger days @Leuth0
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Younger days? That was taken last week6
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I’m not confirming them. I haven’t heard that they’re not moving here.Callumcafc said:This forum never ceases to amaze me.
At least we know how to get more info about GM now though. Keep putting out silly rumours Colin-style until Mr. Seed overreacts and confirms them..
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I just feel very uneasy about this family stuff being shared, which is why I haven’t done so.
NLA, haven’t you even read Grapevine’s post?0 -
He’ll know someone at the club or the training ground.Essex_Al said:
To be fair to Colin, he told me about Mr. Murphy and moving his family here at least two months ago.The Red Robin said:Are we really now believing what Colin says?
I couldn't tell you how much he is in the know, but I believe he has a family member working for the lawyers that are conducting the take over.0 -
Are you writing a book about your grandfather ?JamesSeed said:
Rude retorts? Would you like a list of elfs comments about me?Hartleypete said:
@JamesSeed, I don't know you but I am sure you only have good intentions. The problem appears to be that you over react if somebody disagrees with you or says something you don't like.JamesSeed said:The fact that GM’s family may or may not have issues with uprooting themselves again to move back to the U.K. to me is info that doesn’t need to be shared here.
As I said it won’t affect the sale of the club.
If the family moves he’ll be CEO. If not they’ll appoint one. How is that a problem.
I wouldn’t want info about (alleged) family difficulties shared on the internet when it’s not in the public interest.
Elf joined in with personal untrue defamatory attacks on me on another site. After weeks and weeks of really personal abuse the main perpetrator eventually issued a full apology and removed material. (I also secured a donation to the Upbeats.)
I was really struggling with it, losing sleep, getting stressed (as some of you noticed at the time) but was saved by a lawyer friend who pointed out that it was a very straightforward case of defamation. I was accused of being a decrepit lifelong Millwall fan who had decided to cash in on his family name in order to draw traffic to a ‘clickbait’ blog. My meetings and knowledge of Gerard was for a time apparently a fabrication (or ‘bollox’ as Elf described it) and I was a ‘prick’, a habitual liar, and a narcissist. Someone in this site alerted me to this stuff, and I joined the forum in order to deny the ‘claims’. I found Elfs on there reporting back to this character like a loyal foot soldier (the perpetrator is banned from here and other forums). He was and is clearly in thrall to the man. He still has digs at me to this day.
And all this started about the time of my beer meeting with Gerard.
If anyone has seen my blog they’ll know that there’s never been an ad on it.
There are posters on here that know me and I hope they’ll back me up as a decent bloke.
The fact that some have said Elfs is ok just shows what the internet can do to someone.
It was always going to be problematic posting on Internet forums, and this is obviously the best one for me to use as it’s well run and the vast majority of you on here are great people.
I stuck with it when the abuse started, and Elfs and others would love it if I quit now.
It’s difficult to keep going though when the same issues seem to keep coming back to haunt me.
I might be wrong but I thought I had read that you are standing for a position in the trust soon.
I have to say that I am not convinced that will be a good move if you find it difficult to accept criticism withou having to make such rude retorts.
I very kindly was asked to stand for the Trust but eventually decided not to. My following Charlton was originally just a family thing. I only became a ‘proper fan’ in 2015, and that’s not long enough imho.
Also I’ve literally just started writing my book (been researching on and off) so won’t have enough time time.
Before I go, this wasn’t a matter of developing a thick skin, or banter or rude comments. Certainly not differences of opinion.
Proper trolling is very very different to that.
Its normally associated with kids, but when it affect adults there’s a tendency not to take it seriously.
It should be.2 -
Fair enough. Easy to get confused on this thread!SoundAsa£ said:
Yes of course.......but don’t get that confused with the person or forum on which JS was trolled......they are two different forums and two different people.....I wasn’t sure if you realised that?JamesSeed said:
So I was trolled and I’m in the wrong.roseandcrown said:
It is an issue, if they are not sure if he is going to be ceo or not and if it’s no big deal we will just get someone else in to me is worrying and like no plan is in place.JamesSeed said:The fact that GM’s family may or may not have issues with uprooting themselves again to move back to the U.K. to me is info that doesn’t need to be shared here.
As I said it won’t affect the sale of the club.
If the family moves he’ll be CEO. If not they’ll appoint one. How is that a problem.
I wouldn’t want info about (alleged) family difficulties shared on the internet when it’s not in the public interest.
Elf joined in with personal untrue defamatory attacks on me on another site. After weeks and weeks of really personal abuse the main perpetrator eventually issued a full apology and removed material. (I also secured a donation to the Upbeats.)
I was really struggling with it, losing sleep, getting stressed (as some of you noticed at the time) but was saved by a lawyer friend who pointed out that it was a very straightforward case of defamation. I was accused of being a decrepit lifelong Millwall fan who had decided to cash in on his family name in order to draw traffic to a ‘clickbait’ blog. My meetings and knowledge of Gerard was for a time apparently a fabrication (or ‘bollox’ as Elf described it) and I was a ‘prick’, a habitual liar, and a narcissist. Someone in this site alerted me to this stuff, and I joined the forum in order to deny the ‘claims’. I found Elfs on there reporting back to this character like a loyal foot soldier (the perpetrator is banned from here and other forums). He was and is clearly in thrall to the man. He still has digs at me to this day.
And all this started about the time of my beer meeting with Gerard.
If anyone has seen my blog they’ll know that there’s never been an ad on it.
There are posters on here that know me and I hope they’ll back me up as a decent bloke.
The fact that some have said Elfs is ok just shows what the internet can do to someone.
It was always going to be problematic posting on Internet forums, and this is obviously the best one for me to use as it’s well run and the vast majority of you on here are great people.
I stuck with it when the abuse started, and Elfs and others would love it if I quit now.
It’s difficult to keep going though when the same issues seem to keep coming back to haunt me.
With regards to the other stuff I’m don’t know what’s gone on and who said what but you today are the one bringing this all up, ultimately causing your self stress and making you look in the wrong.
Trolling sounds like nothing to most of you I’m sure. Try researching it. I’m not a softie. I haven’t lived a sheltered life.
Have asked Afka to close my account. It’s just not worth it.The Red Robin said:
The original comment about Murphy not wanting to leave Australia came from Colin.SoundAsa£ said:
If you’re referring to the James Seed comments, they have nothing to do with Colin or the site he posts on come to that.The Red Robin said:Are we really now believing what Colin says?
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If I get any further info I’ll stick it on the blog.
Please click on all the ads for me. Ta!
Next post will probably be about forums and trolls. That’ll be a barrel of laughs ;-)
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page 1234 - big news on the Bromley contingent must be due.0
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It's not really got a lot to do with you though has it. You don't run this forum, you didn't post the "personal" info and you're not GM.JamesSeed said:
I’m not confirming them. I haven’t heard that they’re not moving here.Callumcafc said:This forum never ceases to amaze me.
At least we know how to get more info about GM now though. Keep putting out silly rumours Colin-style until Mr. Seed overreacts and confirms them..
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I just feel very uneasy about this family stuff being shared, which is why I haven’t done so.
NLA, haven’t you even read Grapevine’s post?2 - Sponsored links:
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"I'm the bad guy? How'd that happen?"2
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There's really no need to get so wound. Take a deep breath. Elfs is a good guy and I doubt very much he would have said anything with the intent to cause friction.JamesSeed said:
Rude retorts? Would you like a list of elfs comments about me?Hartleypete said:
@JamesSeed, I don't know you but I am sure you only have good intentions. The problem appears to be that you over react if somebody disagrees with you or says something you don't like.JamesSeed said:The fact that GM’s family may or may not have issues with uprooting themselves again to move back to the U.K. to me is info that doesn’t need to be shared here.
As I said it won’t affect the sale of the club.
If the family moves he’ll be CEO. If not they’ll appoint one. How is that a problem.
I wouldn’t want info about (alleged) family difficulties shared on the internet when it’s not in the public interest.
Elf joined in with personal untrue defamatory attacks on me on another site. After weeks and weeks of really personal abuse the main perpetrator eventually issued a full apology and removed material. (I also secured a donation to the Upbeats.)
I was really struggling with it, losing sleep, getting stressed (as some of you noticed at the time) but was saved by a lawyer friend who pointed out that it was a very straightforward case of defamation. I was accused of being a decrepit lifelong Millwall fan who had decided to cash in on his family name in order to draw traffic to a ‘clickbait’ blog. My meetings and knowledge of Gerard was for a time apparently a fabrication (or ‘bollox’ as Elf described it) and I was a ‘prick’, a habitual liar, and a narcissist. Someone in this site alerted me to this stuff, and I joined the forum in order to deny the ‘claims’. I found Elfs on there reporting back to this character like a loyal foot soldier (the perpetrator is banned from here and other forums). He was and is clearly in thrall to the man. He still has digs at me to this day.
And all this started about the time of my beer meeting with Gerard.
If anyone has seen my blog they’ll know that there’s never been an ad on it.
There are posters on here that know me and I hope they’ll back me up as a decent bloke.
The fact that some have said Elfs is ok just shows what the internet can do to someone.
It was always going to be problematic posting on Internet forums, and this is obviously the best one for me to use as it’s well run and the vast majority of you on here are great people.
I stuck with it when the abuse started, and Elfs and others would love it if I quit now.
It’s difficult to keep going though when the same issues seem to keep coming back to haunt me.
I might be wrong but I thought I had read that you are standing for a position in the trust soon.
I have to say that I am not convinced that will be a good move if you find it difficult to accept criticism withou having to make such rude retorts.
I very kindly was asked to stand for the Trust but eventually decided not to. My following Charlton was originally just a family thing. I only became a ‘proper fan’ in 2015, and that’s not long enough imho.
Also I’ve literally just started writing my book (been researching on and off) so won’t have enough time time.
Before I go, this wasn’t a matter of developing a thick skin, or banter or rude comments. Certainly not differences of opinion.
Proper trolling is very very different to that.
Its normally associated with kids, but when it affect adults there’s a tendency not to take it seriously.
It should be.
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Really. lolken_shabby said:
There's really no need to get so wound. Take a deep breath. Elfs is a good guy and I doubt very much he would have said anything with the intent to cause friction.JamesSeed said:
Rude retorts? Would you like a list of elfs comments about me?Hartleypete said:
@JamesSeed, I don't know you but I am sure you only have good intentions. The problem appears to be that you over react if somebody disagrees with you or says something you don't like.JamesSeed said:The fact that GM’s family may or may not have issues with uprooting themselves again to move back to the U.K. to me is info that doesn’t need to be shared here.
As I said it won’t affect the sale of the club.
If the family moves he’ll be CEO. If not they’ll appoint one. How is that a problem.
I wouldn’t want info about (alleged) family difficulties shared on the internet when it’s not in the public interest.
Elf joined in with personal untrue defamatory attacks on me on another site. After weeks and weeks of really personal abuse the main perpetrator eventually issued a full apology and removed material. (I also secured a donation to the Upbeats.)
I was really struggling with it, losing sleep, getting stressed (as some of you noticed at the time) but was saved by a lawyer friend who pointed out that it was a very straightforward case of defamation. I was accused of being a decrepit lifelong Millwall fan who had decided to cash in on his family name in order to draw traffic to a ‘clickbait’ blog. My meetings and knowledge of Gerard was for a time apparently a fabrication (or ‘bollox’ as Elf described it) and I was a ‘prick’, a habitual liar, and a narcissist. Someone in this site alerted me to this stuff, and I joined the forum in order to deny the ‘claims’. I found Elfs on there reporting back to this character like a loyal foot soldier (the perpetrator is banned from here and other forums). He was and is clearly in thrall to the man. He still has digs at me to this day.
And all this started about the time of my beer meeting with Gerard.
If anyone has seen my blog they’ll know that there’s never been an ad on it.
There are posters on here that know me and I hope they’ll back me up as a decent bloke.
The fact that some have said Elfs is ok just shows what the internet can do to someone.
It was always going to be problematic posting on Internet forums, and this is obviously the best one for me to use as it’s well run and the vast majority of you on here are great people.
I stuck with it when the abuse started, and Elfs and others would love it if I quit now.
It’s difficult to keep going though when the same issues seem to keep coming back to haunt me.
I might be wrong but I thought I had read that you are standing for a position in the trust soon.
I have to say that I am not convinced that will be a good move if you find it difficult to accept criticism withou having to make such rude retorts.
I very kindly was asked to stand for the Trust but eventually decided not to. My following Charlton was originally just a family thing. I only became a ‘proper fan’ in 2015, and that’s not long enough imho.
Also I’ve literally just started writing my book (been researching on and off) so won’t have enough time time.
Before I go, this wasn’t a matter of developing a thick skin, or banter or rude comments. Certainly not differences of opinion.
Proper trolling is very very different to that.
Its normally associated with kids, but when it affect adults there’s a tendency not to take it seriously.
It should be.0 -
So.
Is there actually any takeover news on the takeover thread?
Jesus, Mary & Joseph! Is this what Eastenders is like?6 -
The reason JamesSeed got so emotional, is because he's been caught out withholding information.
This MIGHT have contributed to the 3 month takeover delay.
James has told us on so many occasions, that he has shared all he knows and we know as much as him.
It was obviously not true, even if he does regard the information as personal.
It isn't, not in terms of data protection.6 -
Wait? You had a shop in Grove Park?i_b_b_o_r_g said:....imagine how I feel every time someone one here digs up my past and drones on about my spell in the shop up next to Grove Park BR Station and that fact that I had a kidney transplant and live in France, between Limoges and Brive?
It's life at the top mate and we just grow a thick skin to it
WTF?
Why have we not been told this before now?2 -
Jeez mate, give it a rest.Covered End said:The reason JamesSeed got so emotional, is because he's been caught out withholding information.
This MIGHT have contributed to the 3 month takeover delay.
James has told us on so many occasions, that he has shared all he knows and we know as much as him.
It was obviously not true, even if he does regard the information as personal.
It isn't, not in terms of data protection.14 -
great word numbskull it should be used more8
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I think page 10 had a bit and also page 329 mentioned something about a Scottish bloke!KBslittlesis said:So.
Is there actually any takeover news on the takeover thread?
Jesus, Mary & Joseph! Is this what Eastenders is like?
However, if you want to improve your knowledge on all things fish this is the plaice for you!3 -
Agreed. It's right up there with "Berk" in the realms of underused terms.Goonerhater said:great word numbskull it should be used more
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Hi, anything happening? No thought not, never any drama on here.0
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What story have we been fed? Why would the Aussies be put in a bad light?Chizz said:If the Aussies outbid the Saudis (which I don't believe) and the Saudis found out they had been outbid, they could only have acquired that information from the seller. (Why would the Aussies tell the Saudis?)
So, in that light, perhaps there are two alternative reasons the Saudis chose to back away.
1. The oft-promulgated posit is that they walked away because they had been outbid by a financially unbeatable consortium. A group of Saudi businessmen, we are asked to believe, found that a bid for the club was trumped by another party, with whom they were financially unable to compete. And they reacted by disappearing, licking their wounds. And we are asked to accept this as a plausible explanation and to cast a shadow over the Aussies.
2. The unexplored version of this is a bit different. The Saudis bid for the club. Roland solicited a counter bid from another party (the Aussies). Roland went back to the Saudis to seek another counter. At which time the Saudis, expecting a deal to be completed with due respect and professionalism, walked away. Roland disclosed privileged information (ie the other party's bid) and the Saudis decided against dealing with a business leader unable or unwilling to adhere to non-disclosure requirements.
I don't know if either of these is true. And I don't honestly think either is true. But, if pushed, I would say that 1 is less plausible than 2.
We've been fed a story that is intended to put the Aussies in a bad light. I still don't buy it.2 -
Scene 1. Cue EastEnders intro music and map of the Thames hovering over the valley and stops.KBslittlesis said:So.
Is there actually any takeover news on the takeover thread?
Jesus, Mary & Joseph! Is this what Eastenders is like?
James seed: They are all trying to do me up like a kipper.
Elf's: what's a kipper?
James seed: it's a fish that's been smoked to death. A bit like a beagle.
Elf's: you slaaaag, I like fish.
James seed: I'm not gonna take that, the fish was already dead, you numbskull.
Solidgone: argh (falls down the stairs). Cue Eastender music.13 -
When people share information with us, not sure why some of us wish to give them such a hard time about it. If you do so, it is upsetting when people dig you out over it. I am grateful for James Seed's contributions, as I am for Airman's and anybody else sharing information they have.23
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Which one is played by Barbara Windsor?Solidgone said:
Scene 1. Cue EastEnders intro music and Mao of the Thames moving over the valley and stop.KBslittlesis said:So.
Is there actually any takeover news on the takeover thread?
Jesus, Mary & Joseph! Is this what Eastenders is like?
James seed: They are all trying to do me up like a kipper.
Elf's: what's a kipper?
James seed: it's a fish that's been smoked to death. A bit like a beagle.
Elf's: you slaaaag, I like fish.
James seed: I'm not gonna take that, the fish was already dead, you numbskull.
Solidgone: argh (falls down the stairwell). Cue Eastender music.0 -
There are lots of personal GM related info I haven’t revealed on here because it wouldn’t have been right imho, including the family’s difficult decision about uprooting themselves again. I personally feel uneasy about this been spread, as a friend of his family, so in that sense it has got something to do with me, which is why I asked Shirty to delete it right after he posted it. But of course I don’t run this forum, but while I’m still here I’m entitled to ask someone to delete something, just as he’s perfectly entitled to refuse. If you can’t see that then I’d be disappointed.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It's not really got a lot to do with you though has it. You don't run this forum, you didn't post the "personal" info and you're not GM.JamesSeed said:
I’m not confirming them. I haven’t heard that they’re not moving here.Callumcafc said:This forum never ceases to amaze me.
At least we know how to get more info about GM now though. Keep putting out silly rumours Colin-style until Mr. Seed overreacts and confirms them..
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I just feel very uneasy about this family stuff being shared, which is why I haven’t done so.
NLA, haven’t you even read Grapevine’s post?
But if Colin has put the info out on another forum then it would have spread anyway I suppose.
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I’ve kept this to myself for a long time but it’s about time you all know...
I AM ITK!
I’ll tell you when it’s all gonna happen... for now relax & have a drink...
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Come on people this has gone on for 3 pages, can you all just let it drop2
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Razil said there are two different offers and both have been accepted.
If that's the case then I doubt the Aussies outbid any Saudis.
The Australians seem to be Roland's insurance policy.0 -
Razil's source was LDV,the regime's only mouthpiece.carly burn said:Razil said there are two different offers and both have been accepted.
If that's the case then I doubt the Aussies outbid any Saudis.
The Australians seem to be Roland's insurance policy.
LDV is a liar10