Bold statement in the SLP in their article on Jackson talking about Tarbuck's return.
"Robinson was feeling the heat with Charlton as they slid further out of play-off contention – and felt he would be pushed out the door when a takeover happened. But as it has turned out, the Australian consortium’s build to buy it off Roland Duchatelet has fallen apart – if it was ever truly a credible proposition."
Indeed. It's what we are all thinking. But Cawley seems comfortable in stating it almost as a matter of fact despite LdT continuing to say the Aussies are still in the frame.
There is at least one source close to the Aussies saying the same thing.
Bold statement in the SLP in their article on Jackson talking about Tarbuck's return.
"Robinson was feeling the heat with Charlton as they slid further out of play-off contention – and felt he would be pushed out the door when a takeover happened. But as it has turned out, the Australian consortium’s build to buy it off Roland Duchatelet has fallen apart – if it was ever truly a credible proposition."
Indeed. It's what we are all thinking. But Cawley seems comfortable in stating it almost as a matter of fact despite LdT continuing to say the Aussies are still in the frame.
There is at least one source close to the Aussies saying the same thing.
But Charlton isn't good for the debt, he's losing money hand over fist, maybe loans and taxation can lower those loses, but the losses exist and he's never getting the money back.
Up to an extent, it is good for the debt. The club has tangible and intangible assets that will always find a buyer. And there is huge untapped potential
And it’s probably that debt which sets the asking price. As long as there are potential buyers at the asking price then the debt is good and the lender doesn’t have to make provisions or write any of the debt off. The bad news is that asking price will have to keep increasing with the debt. The good news is promotion this year underpins it. And promotion to the PL makes the debt insignificant.
There are no buyers at the current price though and we currently sit in NINTH in league one, any talk of making it to the Premiership is beyond ridiculous at this stage.
So no, the club is not good for the - increasing - debt.
My main worry with the continuous delay is that RD is going to have a fire sale in January. Fosu, Aribo and Grant are all young quality players and therefore they hold significant value - RD would take 500K for each of them if the deal is cash up front. Hope I am wrong but I think our season will fall apart after January solely down the the old git's greed.
I keep saying this and no one seems to listen. He will try to sell them and NOT lower the price. Just like he did with Konsa. The price was agreed months ago and then he unloaded Konsa. I've never heard once anywhere that the price has gone down because of that. Because it has not. He wants £40M+ and until he gets it he will keep selling off the assets and the price will not get lower. Either that, or he sells players off just to reduce the annual loss. Either way... the price is not going down, folks. No matter who he sells.
De Turck confirmed at one of the fans’ forum meetings that there was a mechanism to adjust the price for player sales, including Konsa.
My guess is that it also takes account of operating losses since agreement was reached, so the price may not actually go down. But it’s pretty irrelevant at this point.
Bold statement in the SLP in their article on Jackson talking about Tarbuck's return.
"Robinson was feeling the heat with Charlton as they slid further out of play-off contention – and felt he would be pushed out the door when a takeover happened. But as it has turned out, the Australian consortium’s build to buy it off Roland Duchatelet has fallen apart – if it was ever truly a credible proposition."
Indeed. It's what we are all thinking. But Cawley seems comfortable in stating it almost as a matter of fact despite LdT continuing to say the Aussies are still in the frame.
There is at least one source close to the Aussies saying the same thing.
Same thing as Cawley or same thing as LdT?
That the Aussies have fallen apart. This isn’t particularly new, though.
My main worry with the continuous delay is that RD is going to have a fire sale in January. Fosu, Aribo and Grant are all young quality players and therefore they hold significant value - RD would take 500K for each of them if the deal is cash up front. Hope I am wrong but I think our season will fall apart after January solely down the the old git's greed.
People have been predicting fire sales with no proper for the last few transfer windows.
Yet he always sells every window so why will this one be no different? - Aribo and Grant at present are the two that will be having scouts down here more than anyone
Summer 2018 - Ezri Konsa | Josh Magennis | Harry Lennon January 2018 - Ricky Holmes Summer 2017 - Jorge Teixeira | Cristian Ceballos | Tony Watt | Lee Novak January 2017 - Morgan Fox | Ademola Lookman Summer 2016 - Jordan Cousins | Johann Gudmundsson | Nick Pope | Callum Harriott | Tarieq Holmes-Dennis January 2016 - No one Summer 2015 - Joe Gomez | Rhoys Wiggins January 2015 - Michael Morrison Summer 2014 - Diego Poyet January 2014 - Ben Alnwick | Yann Kermorgant | Dale Stephens
So other than 2016 when we were in danger of relegation from the Championship there hasnt been a window when we've not seen a player departing...
Clubs always sell players in the windows. Madrid sold Ronaldo in the summer...
Bold statement in the SLP in their article on Jackson talking about Tarbuck's return.
"Robinson was feeling the heat with Charlton as they slid further out of play-off contention – and felt he would be pushed out the door when a takeover happened. But as it has turned out, the Australian consortium’s build to buy it off Roland Duchatelet has fallen apart – if it was ever truly a credible proposition."
Indeed. It's what we are all thinking. But Cawley seems comfortable in stating it almost as a matter of fact despite LdT continuing to say the Aussies are still in the frame.
There is at least one source close to the Aussies saying the same thing.
Does that mean he’ll sign up back on here again? Will he have to keep the same username?
Bold statement in the SLP in their article on Jackson talking about Tarbuck's return.
"Robinson was feeling the heat with Charlton as they slid further out of play-off contention – and felt he would be pushed out the door when a takeover happened. But as it has turned out, the Australian consortium’s build to buy it off Roland Duchatelet has fallen apart – if it was ever truly a credible proposition."
Indeed. It's what we are all thinking. But Cawley seems comfortable in stating it almost as a matter of fact despite LdT continuing to say the Aussies are still in the frame.
There is at least one source close to the Aussies saying the same thing.
Does that mean he’ll sign up back on here again? Will he have to keep the same username?
Not him. I haven’t had any contact with @JamesSeed since he dropped off here.
Bold statement in the SLP in their article on Jackson talking about Tarbuck's return.
"Robinson was feeling the heat with Charlton as they slid further out of play-off contention – and felt he would be pushed out the door when a takeover happened. But as it has turned out, the Australian consortium’s build to buy it off Roland Duchatelet has fallen apart – if it was ever truly a credible proposition."
Indeed. It's what we are all thinking. But Cawley seems comfortable in stating it almost as a matter of fact despite LdT continuing to say the Aussies are still in the frame.
There is at least one source close to the Aussies saying the same thing.
Same thing as Cawley or same thing as LdT?
That the Aussies have fallen apart. This isn’t particularly new, though.
I don't think that would surprise anyone. However, if that is the case, why no announcement that their bid has collapsed, or that they are looking elsewhere? I can see why RD would not be in a hurry to announce they are out of it but what's in it for the Aussies to continue to remain silent? Perhaps just a concern that they will lose some credibility in trying to put together a consortium to purchase another club? God only knows!
My main worry with the continuous delay is that RD is going to have a fire sale in January. Fosu, Aribo and Grant are all young quality players and therefore they hold significant value - RD would take 500K for each of them if the deal is cash up front. Hope I am wrong but I think our season will fall apart after January solely down the the old git's greed.
People have been predicting fire sales with no proper for the last few transfer windows.
Yet he always sells every window so why will this one be no different? - Aribo and Grant at present are the two that will be having scouts down here more than anyone
Summer 2018 - Ezri Konsa | Josh Magennis | Harry Lennon January 2018 - Ricky Holmes Summer 2017 - Jorge Teixeira | Cristian Ceballos | Tony Watt | Lee Novak January 2017 - Morgan Fox | Ademola Lookman Summer 2016 - Jordan Cousins | Johann Gudmundsson | Nick Pope | Callum Harriott | Tarieq Holmes-Dennis January 2016 - No one Summer 2015 - Joe Gomez | Rhoys Wiggins January 2015 - Michael Morrison Summer 2014 - Diego Poyet January 2014 - Ben Alnwick | Yann Kermorgant | Dale Stephens
So other than 2016 when we were in danger of relegation from the Championship there hasnt been a window when we've not seen a player departing...
That's not a bad squad, OK a couple are a bit long in the tooth now or retired but, you'ld get out the Championship (the right way) with that. Just saying
Compare to those coming in and it'll show we've never had a settled squad. Summer 2016 was the closest to a fire sale, and that was due to relegation.
Just looking at January windows we've sold two that the manager didn't want (Morrison and Fox) and two who got offers they were couldn't turn down (Lookman and Holmes). Lookman was never going to stay for long in League 1, he's a much bigger prospect than Aribo or Grant (as good as they are in this league).
Bold statement in the SLP in their article on Jackson talking about Tarbuck's return.
"Robinson was feeling the heat with Charlton as they slid further out of play-off contention – and felt he would be pushed out the door when a takeover happened. But as it has turned out, the Australian consortium’s build to buy it off Roland Duchatelet has fallen apart – if it was ever truly a credible proposition."
Indeed. It's what we are all thinking. But Cawley seems comfortable in stating it almost as a matter of fact despite LdT continuing to say the Aussies are still in the frame.
There is at least one source close to the Aussies saying the same thing.
Same thing as Cawley or same thing as LdT?
That the Aussies have fallen apart. This isn’t particularly new, though.
I don't think that would surprise anyone. However, if that is the case, why no announcement that their bid has collapsed, or that they are looking elsewhere? I can see why RD would not be in a hurry to announce they are out of it but what's in it for the Aussies to continue to remain silent? Perhaps just a concern that they will lose some credibility in trying to put together a consortium to purchase another club? God only knows!
My guess is that key people involved still want to carry on and try to reassemble it.
But Charlton isn't good for the debt, he's losing money hand over fist, maybe loans and taxation can lower those loses, but the losses exist and he's never getting the money back.
Up to an extent, it is good for the debt. The club has tangible and intangible assets that will always find a buyer. And there is huge untapped potential
And it’s probably that debt which sets the asking price. As long as there are potential buyers at the asking price then the debt is good and the lender doesn’t have to make provisions or write any of the debt off. The bad news is that asking price will have to keep increasing with the debt. The good news is promotion this year underpins it. And promotion to the PL makes the debt insignificant.
There are no buyers at the current price though and we currently sit in NINTH in league one, any talk of making it to the Premiership is beyond ridiculous at this stage.
So no, the club is not good for the - increasing - debt.
But there are buyers, 5 potentially so we are told and even the EFL seem to have confirmed the Aussie interest and the only figure that seems to be out in the open is the one being bandied about as to how much RD wants. Whether a deal ever gets done is another matter but for the meantime the club has value.
Actually getting to the PL is clearly another matter but going up this season is looking a reasonable ask
My main worry with the continuous delay is that RD is going to have a fire sale in January. Fosu, Aribo and Grant are all young quality players and therefore they hold significant value - RD would take 500K for each of them if the deal is cash up front. Hope I am wrong but I think our season will fall apart after January solely down the the old git's greed.
People have been predicting fire sales with no proper for the last few transfer windows.
Yet he always sells every window so why will this one be no different? - Aribo and Grant at present are the two that will be having scouts down here more than anyone
Summer 2018 - Ezri Konsa | Josh Magennis | Harry Lennon January 2018 - Ricky Holmes Summer 2017 - Jorge Teixeira | Cristian Ceballos | Tony Watt | Lee Novak January 2017 - Morgan Fox | Ademola Lookman Summer 2016 - Jordan Cousins | Johann Gudmundsson | Nick Pope | Callum Harriott | Tarieq Holmes-Dennis January 2016 - No one Summer 2015 - Joe Gomez | Rhoys Wiggins January 2015 - Michael Morrison Summer 2014 - Diego Poyet January 2014 - Ben Alnwick | Yann Kermorgant | Dale Stephens
So other than 2016 when we were in danger of relegation from the Championship there hasnt been a window when we've not seen a player departing...
Clubs always sell players in the windows. Madrid sold Ronaldo in the summer...
Did they spend it all on a training ground trench?
Profile article of Muir from LinkedIn and posted on Addicks.org by Glynne Jones:
"He is also a director of AFL club Essendon and has been linked - erroneously, Muir claims- to a bid for lower league English soccer club Charlton Athletic"
Maybe it means that he, personally, isn't part of the bidding consortium and his involvement has been to support the AFC and help them to find backers?
But Charlton isn't good for the debt, he's losing money hand over fist, maybe loans and taxation can lower those loses, but the losses exist and he's never getting the money back.
Up to an extent, it is good for the debt. The club has tangible and intangible assets that will always find a buyer. And there is huge untapped potential
And it’s probably that debt which sets the asking price. As long as there are potential buyers at the asking price then the debt is good and the lender doesn’t have to make provisions or write any of the debt off. The bad news is that asking price will have to keep increasing with the debt. The good news is promotion this year underpins it. And promotion to the PL makes the debt insignificant.
There are no buyers at the current price though and we currently sit in NINTH in league one, any talk of making it to the Premiership is beyond ridiculous at this stage.
So no, the club is not good for the - increasing - debt.
But there are buyers, 5 potentially so we are told and even the EFL seem to have confirmed the Aussie interest and the only figure that seems to be out in the open is the one being bandied about as to how much RD wants. Whether a deal ever gets done is another matter but for the meantime the club has value.
Actually getting to the PL is clearly another matter but going up this season is looking a reasonable ask
Even at 40mil that doesn't cover the debt though, does it?
Maybe it means that he, personally, isn't part of the bidding consortium and his involvement has been to support the AFC and help them to find backers?
Even If that were the case then surely he'd still be 'linked to a bid' - which the article says Muir claims is 'erroneous'.....?
At least we've got Addickted's bid still on the table, some small change and confectionery if I remember correctly. Oh and Seth's potential lottery win. No need to worry just yet.
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So no, the club is not good for the - increasing - debt.
My guess is that it also takes account of operating losses since agreement was reached, so the price may not actually go down. But it’s pretty irrelevant at this point.
Just looking at January windows we've sold two that the manager didn't want (Morrison and Fox) and two who got offers they were couldn't turn down (Lookman and Holmes). Lookman was never going to stay for long in League 1, he's a much bigger prospect than Aribo or Grant (as good as they are in this league).
Actually getting to the PL is clearly another matter but going up this season is looking a reasonable ask
"He is also a director of AFL club Essendon and has been linked - erroneously, Muir claims- to a bid for lower league English soccer club Charlton Athletic"
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6460072656204103680/
Curious.....
Awaits NLA.
Oh and Seth's potential lottery win.
No need to worry just yet.