Interesting extra information on the other thread. Seems to make a lot of sense, based on the time difference between that part of the States and Australia. Hope this gets confirmed very soon. I'm not ITK, but have to say thanks to @Rossman92 for bringing this new information.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
Someone take the shovel away......!
We are all entitled to our opinion pal. Mine is that it’s disrespectful to criticise the fans that go every week to support the players. I didn’t protest but I care about the future of Charlton hence why I want Roland out. But getting promotion also contributes to the future.
The fact is Roland is our owner, wants out and it will happen. In the meantime I will support the players as Bowyer has integrated some fighting spirit and im enjoying watching us play again.
I’m quite sure everyone supports the players whether attending or not.
But staying away takes some of that support away. And I am not criticising one person who is boycotting, I completely understand their reasons for it.
I think some of what I said has been taken out of context, but I stand by the fact that I don't agree with oohahh's comments. I think there is a big difference between saying "it's all ok now" as we're winning a few games and those who are putting the ownership issues to one side to support the side.
We all know Roland wants to sell and it will happen, so what's the point in continually slagging him off when we could instead be looking forward to Saturday afternoons again.
I’m saying a few wins doesn’t make it all alright and Roland is an owner worth having . The contract situation is a joke as is the management structure outside of the football pair who were the cheap options that fell in to place . I’m all for cheering the team on if you so wish, I do . But the punters who don’t go and abstain are making the biggest sacrifice . And I think the supporters who are indifferent to Roland are lame ducks who are happy to ignore his shitness of the past and can’t see past the next 4 months of football for our club. I understand people that don’t live and breath every bit of the club as some do but the bigger picture of the future of Charlton Athletic is more important than one promotion or not from League One . The poison that has damaged our club is still here and I’m not turning a blind eye to that and if you can’t see the bigger picture then lucky you Cos I know I can’t make the blind see . I was shouting that this owner was a joke experimenting with our club from season one but people couldn’t look beyond the 4 months of we’ve survived in the Championship when the writing was on the wall what that clown owner was doing and of course we have 3 years of league one dog shit as our neighbours feast at a higher table laughing at the joke owner to a point where it turns to pity because it’s so abysmal. Yes things might look rosey for 5 mins but I want another 113+ years of existence with less shit bits in it for the future and the future will be shit every minute the poison that is Roland is the owner of our club .
Well said, Grapevine. Slightly shorter than your usual postings.
Interesting extra information on the other thread. Seems to make a lot of sense, based on the time difference between that part of the States and Australia. Hope this gets confirmed very soon. I'm not ITK, but have to say thanks to @Rossman92 for bringing this new information.
Interesting extra information on the other thread. Seems to make a lot of sense, based on the time difference between that part of the States and Australia. Hope this gets confirmed very soon. I'm not ITK, but have to say thanks to @Rossman92 for bringing this new information.
Interesting extra information on the other thread. Seems to make a lot of sense, based on the time difference between that part of the States and Australia. Hope this gets confirmed very soon. I'm not ITK, but have to say thanks to @Rossman92 for bringing this new information.
Hawaii The Lads.
So what's been said?
Met an Aussie in Hawaii when I was there 2 weeks ago. One too many daiquiris made me think he said "I'm gonna buy Charlton Atheltic", while in reality he said "Oi, quit pissin in the pool, you're pathetic".
Airmen - are you planning to send a copy of the statement to JW and ask him how / who gave him the statement that we were days away from athe sale, this dosnt stack up. I think he needs to go back to his contact get an explanation and put it out on his show for all to hear.
It does stack up. As the EFL themselves said, if the information is provided and is satisfactory things can move very quickly.
Apart from JW’s source, there was an expectation on the part of the club that it was about to happen at the turn of the year. The fact it didn’t get as far as the EFL doesn’t change the fact that other people - with every reason to know - thought it was about to happen
It does appear that whoever the source is feeding yourself, Jim White, Richard Murray and 'other people with every reason to know' information is talking complete shit.
Except that they might not be. We don’t really know.
Right-o.
Richard Murray said it would be done by March.....that's March 2018.
Airman famously said the deal was done.
More recently Jim White said the deal was hours a way.
I would suspect those genuinely in the midst of negotiations are few. This false info appears to be coming from a single original source. Those in the club with every reason to know are more than likely getting info again from this single source.
Lieven De Turck is ultimately the source within the club, but he’s not one of my sources and he’s not JW’s. Neither is RD.
I think if LDT isn’t “in the midst of negotiations” then something very odd is happening. A more likely explanation is that the Belgians are naive and have been at every turn.
Airmen - are you planning to send a copy of the statement to JW and ask him how / who gave him the statement that we were days away from athe sale, this dosnt stack up. I think he needs to go back to his contact get an explanation and put it out on his show for all to hear.
It does stack up. As the EFL themselves said, if the information is provided and is satisfactory things can move very quickly.
Apart from JW’s source, there was an expectation on the part of the club that it was about to happen at the turn of the year. The fact it didn’t get as far as the EFL doesn’t change the fact that other people - with every reason to know - thought it was about to happen
It does appear that whoever the source is feeding yourself, Jim White, Richard Murray and 'other people with every reason to know' information is talking complete shit.
Except that they might not be. We don’t really know.
Right-o.
Richard Murray said it would be done by March.....that's March 2018.
Airman famously said the deal was done.
More recently Jim White said the deal was hours a way.
I would suspect those genuinely in the midst of negotiations are few. This false info appears to be coming from a single original source. Those in the club with every reason to know are more than likely getting info again from this single source.
Leaving us in the dark.
But isn’t Jim’s source Roland?
I thought airman said it wasn’t from Roland ? As he had seen the evidence of what white was saying
Airmen - are you planning to send a copy of the statement to JW and ask him how / who gave him the statement that we were days away from athe sale, this dosnt stack up. I think he needs to go back to his contact get an explanation and put it out on his show for all to hear.
It does stack up. As the EFL themselves said, if the information is provided and is satisfactory things can move very quickly.
Apart from JW’s source, there was an expectation on the part of the club that it was about to happen at the turn of the year. The fact it didn’t get as far as the EFL doesn’t change the fact that other people - with every reason to know - thought it was about to happen
It does appear that whoever the source is feeding yourself, Jim White, Richard Murray and 'other people with every reason to know' information is talking complete shit.
Except that they might not be. We don’t really know.
Right-o.
Richard Murray said it would be done by March.....that's March 2018.
Airman famously said the deal was done.
More recently Jim White said the deal was hours a way.
I would suspect those genuinely in the midst of negotiations are few. This false info appears to be coming from a single original source. Those in the club with every reason to know are more than likely getting info again from this single source.
Leaving us in the dark.
But isn’t Jim’s source Roland?
JW has said clearly that Duchatalet is not his source. His information comes from elsewhere. My guess would be Mishcon de Reya.
Airmen - are you planning to send a copy of the statement to JW and ask him how / who gave him the statement that we were days away from athe sale, this dosnt stack up. I think he needs to go back to his contact get an explanation and put it out on his show for all to hear.
It does stack up. As the EFL themselves said, if the information is provided and is satisfactory things can move very quickly.
Apart from JW’s source, there was an expectation on the part of the club that it was about to happen at the turn of the year. The fact it didn’t get as far as the EFL doesn’t change the fact that other people - with every reason to know - thought it was about to happen
It does appear that whoever the source is feeding yourself, Jim White, Richard Murray and 'other people with every reason to know' information is talking complete shit.
Except that they might not be. We don’t really know.
Right-o.
Richard Murray said it would be done by March.....that's March 2018.
Airman famously said the deal was done.
More recently Jim White said the deal was hours a way.
I would suspect those genuinely in the midst of negotiations are few. This false info appears to be coming from a single original source. Those in the club with every reason to know are more than likely getting info again from this single source.
Leaving us in the dark.
But isn’t Jim’s source Roland?
JW has said clearly that Duchatalet is not his source. His information comes from elsewhere.
And is proving just as reliable as every other source on this...
I understood that White's source was the broker for the deal.
How much of the "he's gone" and "72 hours" was JW talking up his story and how much was what the broker (Keith Harris?) Was saying, I don't know. I suspect a bit of both.
As ever "it could happen" became "It is happening" for some people.
And then when the made up deadline passed they then dismiss the whole story as bogus when the reality is, imo, that bits of it were true, bits were overstated and bits were false.
LDT was saying it was 90% done. That's a meaningless number but it does suggest something was happening.
Keep calm and wait until it is announced by the club
Airmen - are you planning to send a copy of the statement to JW and ask him how / who gave him the statement that we were days away from athe sale, this dosnt stack up. I think he needs to go back to his contact get an explanation and put it out on his show for all to hear.
It does stack up. As the EFL themselves said, if the information is provided and is satisfactory things can move very quickly.
Apart from JW’s source, there was an expectation on the part of the club that it was about to happen at the turn of the year. The fact it didn’t get as far as the EFL doesn’t change the fact that other people - with every reason to know - thought it was about to happen
It does appear that whoever the source is feeding yourself, Jim White, Richard Murray and 'other people with every reason to know' information is talking complete shit.
Except that they might not be. We don’t really know.
Right-o.
Richard Murray said it would be done by March.....that's March 2018.
Airman famously said the deal was done.
More recently Jim White said the deal was hours a way.
I would suspect those genuinely in the midst of negotiations are few. This false info appears to be coming from a single original source. Those in the club with every reason to know are more than likely getting info again from this single source.
Leaving us in the dark.
But isn’t Jim’s source Roland?
JW has said clearly that Duchatalet is not his source. His information comes from elsewhere. My guess would be Mishcon de Reya.
Airmen - are you planning to send a copy of the statement to JW and ask him how / who gave him the statement that we were days away from athe sale, this dosnt stack up. I think he needs to go back to his contact get an explanation and put it out on his show for all to hear.
It does stack up. As the EFL themselves said, if the information is provided and is satisfactory things can move very quickly.
Apart from JW’s source, there was an expectation on the part of the club that it was about to happen at the turn of the year. The fact it didn’t get as far as the EFL doesn’t change the fact that other people - with every reason to know - thought it was about to happen
But don't you think that a problem here might be the EFL's definition of "very quickly"? I just can't see how, if documents were lacking from an Aussie deal, and had been for some time, and it was to be resolved by a new partner joining to boost the consortium's funds, that could go through within 72 hours.
You've visited the EFL now. It's not a big operation. They outsource a lot of their work for the ODT, and that team is working on other deals at any one time. I think you'd agree that there is now a certain amount of goodwill from the EFL towards us fans, but nowhere enough for them to drop all else they were doing to push this through in 48-72 hours. If I were them , I would not make any special effort, because the deal has been fannying around with them for getting on a year, and Duchatelet has been a pain in the neck to them.
@Henry Irving suggested that a deal could have been announced "subject to EFL approval", and they certainly could have done that, but I would think that would be most unwise. Th EFL would see that as loading the focus of fans on them to not hold up a deal which has held itself up for year.
Not seeking to dispute anything, and maybe I have missed something about how you viewed the info you obtained; I just wonder whether now you have evidence that nothing new has happened on the ODT, you don't accept that the timeframe being suggested for a deal being announced was highly optimistic?
I can't see it happening until we know what division we are in next season
I can. I have no more information than gleaned from here and the OS but if the unidentified blockage can be cleared then it could be done very quickly imo.
The EFL have said they could process the paperwork swiftly, LDT says the money is there, the Broker is saying it's close.
Airmen - are you planning to send a copy of the statement to JW and ask him how / who gave him the statement that we were days away from athe sale, this dosnt stack up. I think he needs to go back to his contact get an explanation and put it out on his show for all to hear.
It does stack up. As the EFL themselves said, if the information is provided and is satisfactory things can move very quickly.
Apart from JW’s source, there was an expectation on the part of the club that it was about to happen at the turn of the year. The fact it didn’t get as far as the EFL doesn’t change the fact that other people - with every reason to know - thought it was about to happen
But don't you think that a problem here might be the EFL's definition of "very quickly"? I just can't see how, if documents were lacking from an Aussie deal, and had been for some time, and it was to be resolved by a new partner joining to boost the consortium's funds, that could go through within 72 hours.
You've visited the EFL now. It's not a big operation. They outsource a lot of their work for the ODT, and that team is working on other deals at any one time. I think you'd agree that there is now a certain amount of goodwill from the EFL towards us fans, but nowhere enough for them to drop all else they were doing to push this through in 48-72 hours. If I were them , I would not make any special effort, because the deal has been fannying around with them for getting on a year, and Duchatelet has been a pain in the neck to them.
@Henry Irving suggested that a deal could have been announced "subject to EFL approval", and they certainly could have done that, but I would think that would be most unwise. Th EFL would see that as loading the focus of fans on them to not hold up a deal which has held itself up for year.
Not seeking to dispute anything, and maybe I have missed something about how you viewed the info you obtained; I just wonder whether now you have evidence that nothing new has happened on the ODT, you don't accept that the timeframe being suggested for a deal being announced was highly optimistic?
I’ve said before that I think JW overplayed the story, but I don’t think he was talking about EFL approval at all because his source was telling him the nature of the people involved made that no problem - as indeed the EFL suggested had applied with Villa.
Neither the 2010 takeover nor the 2014 was held up by the EFL. They both happened quickly, despite happening over Christmas and New Year, with public holidays intervening and most staff probably away.
On your point about Duchatelet, they are very keen to resolve the problem - whether for their own reasons or ours - so I don’t see them taking their time in order to be difficult.
Airmen - are you planning to send a copy of the statement to JW and ask him how / who gave him the statement that we were days away from athe sale, this dosnt stack up. I think he needs to go back to his contact get an explanation and put it out on his show for all to hear.
It does stack up. As the EFL themselves said, if the information is provided and is satisfactory things can move very quickly.
Apart from JW’s source, there was an expectation on the part of the club that it was about to happen at the turn of the year. The fact it didn’t get as far as the EFL doesn’t change the fact that other people - with every reason to know - thought it was about to happen
It does appear that whoever the source is feeding yourself, Jim White, Richard Murray and 'other people with every reason to know' information is talking complete shit.
Except that they might not be. We don’t really know.
Right-o.
Richard Murray said it would be done by March.....that's March 2018.
Airman famously said the deal was done.
More recently Jim White said the deal was hours a way.
I would suspect those genuinely in the midst of negotiations are few. This false info appears to be coming from a single original source. Those in the club with every reason to know are more than likely getting info again from this single source.
Leaving us in the dark.
But isn’t Jim’s source Roland?
Pretty sure JW said it was from a broker or the Aussie side.
Airmen - are you planning to send a copy of the statement to JW and ask him how / who gave him the statement that we were days away from athe sale, this dosnt stack up. I think he needs to go back to his contact get an explanation and put it out on his show for all to hear.
It does stack up. As the EFL themselves said, if the information is provided and is satisfactory things can move very quickly.
Apart from JW’s source, there was an expectation on the part of the club that it was about to happen at the turn of the year. The fact it didn’t get as far as the EFL doesn’t change the fact that other people - with every reason to know - thought it was about to happen
It does appear that whoever the source is feeding yourself, Jim White, Richard Murray and 'other people with every reason to know' information is talking complete shit.
Except that they might not be. We don’t really know.
Right-o.
Richard Murray said it would be done by March.....that's March 2018.
Airman famously said the deal was done.
More recently Jim White said the deal was hours a way.
I would suspect those genuinely in the midst of negotiations are few. This false info appears to be coming from a single original source. Those in the club with every reason to know are more than likely getting info again from this single source.
Leaving us in the dark.
But isn’t Jim’s source Roland?
JW has said clearly that Duchatalet is not his source. His information comes from elsewhere.
And is proving just as reliable as every other source on this...
Anyone would think we’d never learned anything about this without being told it by RD or LDT. In fact quite a lot of good information has come into the public domain by way of fans and media, including the fact he was selling in the first place, the existence of the Australians, the identity of a key player in that group, the fact and detail of the offer to former directors, approaches to them from other parties, some information about other parties, due diligence details, names of various other people involved in the Aussie deal and of one hoping to get on board, news of submissions to the EFL, various prices quoted by the Belgians, information about people taken round by LDT. I’m sure there is more.
If you want to look at why the deal is repeatedly predicted to happen or to have happened you would have to examine what the participants themselves have believed to be true. If they are proven wrong then it’s hardly surprising that they mislead others down the line, but it’s glib and lazy just to dismiss everything as unreliable off the back of that.
Airmen - are you planning to send a copy of the statement to JW and ask h
It does stack up. As the EFL themselves said, if the information is provided and is satisfactory things can move very quickly.
Apart from JW’s source, there was an expectation on the part of the club that it was about to happen at the turn of the year. The fact it didn’t get as far as the EFL doesn’t change the fact that other people - with every reason to know - thought it was about to happen
It does appear that whoever the source is feeding yourself, Jim White, Richard Murray and 'other people with every reason to know' information is talking complete shit.
Except that they might not be. We don’t really know.
Right-o.
Richard Murray said it would be done by March.....that's March 2018.
Airman famously said the deal was done.
More recently Jim White said the deal was hours a way.
I would suspect those genuinely in the midst of negotiations are few. This false info a.
Leaving us in the dark.
But isn’t Jim’s source Roland?
I thought airman said it wasn’t from Roland ? As he had seen the evidence of what white was saying
Airmen - are you planning to send a copy of the statement to JW and ask him how / who gave him the statement that we were days away from athe sale, this dosnt stack up. I think he needs to go back to his contact get an explanation and put it out on his show for all to hear.
It does stack up. As the EFL themselves said, if the information is provided and is satisfactory things can move very quickly.
Apart from JW’s source, there was an expectation on the part of the club that it was about to happen at the turn of the year. The fact it didn’t get as far as the EFL doesn’t change the fact that other people - with every reason to know - thought it was about to happen
It does appear that whoever the source is feeding yourself, Jim White, Richard Murray and 'other people with every reason to know' information is talking complete shit.
Except that they might not be. We don’t really know.
Right-o.
Richard Murray said it would be done by March.....that's March 2018.
Airman famously said the deal was done.
More recently Jim White said the deal was hours a way.
I would suspect those genuinely in the midst of negotiations are few. This false info appears to be coming from a single original source. Those in the club with every reason to know are more than likely getting info again from this single source.
Leaving us in the dark.
But isn’t Jim’s source Roland?
JW has said clearly that Duchatalet is not his source. His information comes from elsewhere. My guess would be Mishcon de Reya.
Airmen - are you planning to send a copy of the statement to JW and ask him how / who gave him the statement that we were days away from athe sale, this dosnt stack up. I think he needs to go back to his contact get an explanation and put it out on his show for all to hear.
It does stack up. As the EFL themselves said, if the information is provided and is satisfactory things can move very quickly.
Apart from JW’s source, there was an expectation on the part of the club that it was about to happen at the turn of the year. The fact it didn’t get as far as the EFL doesn’t change the fact that other people - with every reason to know - thought it was about to happen
It does appear that whoever the source is feeding yourself, Jim White, Richard Murray and 'other people with every reason to know' information is talking complete shit.
Except that they might not be. We don’t really know.
Right-o.
Richard Murray said it would be done by March.....that's March 2018.
Airman famously said the deal was done.
More recently Jim White said the deal was hours a way.
I would suspect those genuinely in the midst of negotiations are few. This false info appears to be coming from a single original source. Those in the club with every reason to know are more than likely getting info again from this single source.
Leaving us in the dark.
But isn’t Jim’s source Roland?
JW has said clearly that Duchatalet is not his source. His information comes from elsewhere. My guess would be Mishcon de Reya.
Airmen - are you planning to send a copy of the statement to JW and ask him how / who gave him the statement that we were days away from athe sale, this dosnt stack up. I think he needs to go back to his contact get an explanation and put it out on his show for all to hear.
It does stack up. As the EFL themselves said, if the information is provided and is satisfactory things can move very quickly.
Apart from JW’s source, there was an expectation on the part of the club that it was about to happen at the turn of the year. The fact it didn’t get as far as the EFL doesn’t change the fact that other people - with every reason to know - thought it was about to happen
It does appear that whoever the source is feeding yourself, Jim White, Richard Murray and 'other people with every reason to know' information is talking complete shit.
Except that they might not be. We don’t really know.
Right-o.
Richard Murray said it would be done by March.....that's March 2018.
Airman famously said the deal was done.
More recently Jim White said the deal was hours a way.
I would suspect those genuinely in the midst of negotiations are few. This false info appears to be coming from a single original source. Those in the club with every reason to know are more than likely getting info again from this single source.
Leaving us in the dark.
But isn’t Jim’s source Roland?
Pretty sure JW said it was from a broker or the Aussie side.
Yup, the broker (probably Keith Harris). I’d forgotten that.
GM has gone totally silent these last two weeks which is unusual. We normally at least discuss the football. I’m hoping that’s a good sign.
It’s happening! possible that something might happen!
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Hawaii The Lads.
I think if LDT isn’t “in the midst of negotiations” then something very odd is happening. A more likely explanation is that the Belgians are naive and have been at every turn.
If he is not involved in finalising or negotiating any deal, there is zero chance of anything being finished.
I thought airman said it wasn’t from Roland ? As he had seen the evidence of what white was saying
How much of the "he's gone" and "72 hours" was JW talking up his story and how much was what the broker (Keith Harris?) Was saying, I don't know. I suspect a bit of both.
As ever "it could happen" became "It is happening" for some people.
And then when the made up deadline passed they then dismiss the whole story as bogus when the reality is, imo, that bits of it were true, bits were overstated and bits were false.
LDT was saying it was 90% done. That's a meaningless number but it does suggest something was happening.
Keep calm and wait until it is announced by the club
#teamWIOTOS
You've visited the EFL now. It's not a big operation. They outsource a lot of their work for the ODT, and that team is working on other deals at any one time. I think you'd agree that there is now a certain amount of goodwill from the EFL towards us fans, but nowhere enough for them to drop all else they were doing to push this through in 48-72 hours. If I were them , I would not make any special effort, because the deal has been fannying around with them for getting on a year, and Duchatelet has been a pain in the neck to them.
@Henry Irving suggested that a deal could have been announced "subject to EFL approval", and they certainly could have done that, but I would think that would be most unwise. Th EFL would see that as loading the focus of fans on them to not hold up a deal which has held itself up for year.
Not seeking to dispute anything, and maybe I have missed something about how you viewed the info you obtained; I just wonder whether now you have evidence that nothing new has happened on the ODT, you don't accept that the timeframe being suggested for a deal being announced was highly optimistic?
The EFL have said they could process the paperwork swiftly, LDT says the money is there, the Broker is saying it's close.
It COULD be done very soon.
That doesn't mean it WiILL be done soon.
Neither the 2010 takeover nor the 2014 was held up by the EFL. They both happened quickly, despite happening over Christmas and New Year, with public holidays intervening and most staff probably away.
On your point about Duchatelet, they are very keen to resolve the problem - whether for their own reasons or ours - so I don’t see them taking their time in order to be difficult.
If you want to look at why the deal is repeatedly predicted to happen or to have happened you would have to examine what the participants themselves have believed to be true. If they are proven wrong then it’s hardly surprising that they mislead others down the line, but it’s glib and lazy just to dismiss everything as unreliable off the back of that.
GM has gone totally silent these last two weeks which is unusual. We normally at least discuss the football.
I’m hoping that’s a good sign.
It’s
happening! possible that something might happen!We are destined to crash out without a deal.
It's unprecendented. No-one knows what is going to happen.
Oh - apart from we will still lose to Millwall.