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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    No, but if he were on a two year contract we would either keep him or get more.
  • Melrose
    Melrose Posts: 836
    Of course RD was going to sell him. However it's not the sale that's hard to take, It's because Grant almost certainly won't be adequately replaced. Surely it would only be a small gamble to give LB some of the fee to get 1 or 2 quality replacements to get us into the Championship. Shrewd bussiness man, or stubborn old fool?
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,104
    1501
  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,017
    edited January 2019
    Melrose said:

    Of course RD was going to sell him. However it's not the sale that's hard to take, It's because Grant almost certainly won't be adequately replaced. Surely it would only be a small gamble to give LB some of the fee to get 1 or 2 quality replacements to get us into the Championship. Shrewd bussiness man, or stubborn old fool?

    No he is just a ""

    & that's not u Melrose 👌🏻...👍
  • On the page 2525, if Charlton fans are still alive
    If Katrien had survived, they may find
    On the page 3535
    Roland ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
    Everything you think, do and say
    Is in the bull you took today
    On the page 4545
    You ain't gonna need your eyes won't need your brain
    You won't find a thing to believe
    Nobody's gonna buy our club
    On the page 5555
    Your scarf is hangin' limp at your sides
    Your heart is giving up
    Some crackpot still owns our club
    On the page 6565
    You won't need no red shirt, won't need no white shorts
    Roland'll pick your team, pick your colours too
    From the bottom of a long glass tube
    On the page 7510
    If Roland's still not gone, He oughta make it by then
    Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
    Guess it's time for the judgment day
    On the page 8510
    Roland is gonna shake His mighty head
    He'll either say I'm pleased where Charlton has been
    Or tear it down, and start again
    On the page 9595
    I'm kinda wonderin' if Charlton is gonna be alive
    Roland's taken everything this old club can give
    And he ain't put back nothing
    Now it's been ten thousand pages
    Charlton fans have cried a billion tears
    For what, Roland never knew, now Roland's reign is through
    But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight
    So very far away, maybe it's only yesterday
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Has it been 48 hours yet?
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    Melrose said:

    Of course RD was going to sell him. However it's not the sale that's hard to take, It's because Grant almost certainly won't be adequately replaced. Surely it would only be a small gamble to give LB some of the fee to get 1 or 2 quality replacements to get us into the Championship. Shrewd bussiness man, or stubborn old fool?

    Won't the operating costs and losses be greater in The Championship? And he wouldn't provide a squad that would be able to compete.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Ferryman said:

    Melrose said:

    Of course RD was going to sell him. However it's not the sale that's hard to take, It's because Grant almost certainly won't be adequately replaced. Surely it would only be a small gamble to give LB some of the fee to get 1 or 2 quality replacements to get us into the Championship. Shrewd bussiness man, or stubborn old fool?

    Won't the operating costs and losses be greater in The Championship? And he wouldn't provide a squad that would be able to compete.
    This is very much true. If we were to go up this season, we would come back down instantly if RD continues to own us.
  • Melrose
    Melrose Posts: 836
    Not talking about RD owning us in Championship. Just getting us there. He will get a better price on his investement. When there, hopefully the right owners will push the club forwards
  • Bubble
    Bubble Posts: 1,541

    addick05 said:

    cafcwill said:

    The Grant sale is a massive sign (to me anyway) that the takeover is still far away

    We're in the best position in years to get promotion, with a good team. Roland decides to sell one of the reasons we're up there. Classic Roland.

    I'm still #TeamWIOTOS but I don't see it happening until the summer at the earliest.

    Oh well

    Decides to sell? What do you expect him to do....quadruple Karlan's salary? Or watch him walk away on a free at the end of the season? Really it's a no brainer for our Belgian hero.

    Again. He cannot walk away on a free.
    I miss the days when Katrien used to roll out the reasoning of how we we we're respecting the players wishes for a move, as she would remind us, we should be happy, we saw a Premier league player of the future. Stay humble :)

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Scoham said:

    Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.

    Has to be
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Redrobo said:

    Scoham said:

    Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.

    Has to be
    I would caution you to wait until news is posted onto the clubs official website.
    Your advice is sound and I shall take it fully onboard
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Redrobo said:

    Scoham said:

    Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.

    Has to be
    I would caution you to wait until news is posted onto the clubs official website.
    You’ll hear it from @DOUCHER first.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,898
    JamesSeed said:

    Redrobo said:

    Scoham said:

    Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.

    Has to be
    I would caution you to wait until news is posted onto the clubs official website.
    You’ll hear it from @DOUCHER first.
    what announcement are we waiting for? the grant thing, told you my friends, its done - completo - done deal shall we say? WIOTOS my arse!!!
  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,379
    The club is SOLD!!!!!


    * edit, sorry i meant 'SOILED'
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    DOUCHER said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Redrobo said:

    Scoham said:

    Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.

    Has to be
    I would caution you to wait until news is posted onto the clubs official website.
    You’ll hear it from @DOUCHER first.
    what announcement are we waiting for? the grant thing, told you my friends, its done - completo - done deal shall we say? WIOTOS my arse!!!
    I think you may be thinking of the transfer window thread. This is the thread about the possible sale of our great club.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,898
    Redrobo said:

    DOUCHER said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Redrobo said:

    Scoham said:

    Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.

    Has to be
    I would caution you to wait until news is posted onto the clubs official website.
    You’ll hear it from @DOUCHER first.
    what announcement are we waiting for? the grant thing, told you my friends, its done - completo - done deal shall we say? WIOTOS my arse!!!
    I think you may be thinking of the transfer window thread. This is the thread about the possible sale of our great club.
    i know
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited January 2019
    Larry van Rental: Mr Roland sir, if you want a realistic chance of getting 40 million it would be best to keep all the top players including Mr Grant, Mr Aribo, Mr Taylor, and Mr Bauer to the end of the season when a Championship team in a prime London location may be worth 35 to 40 million with a bit of luck.

    Roland Duchatelet: that's a good idea.

    Larry Van Rentals: oh by the way, Huddersfield offered 1.5 million plus add ons, for Mr Grant, shall I tell them to do one.

    Roland Duchatelet: sell sell sell.

    Some names have been changed to protect the innocent.
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  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,889
    My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.

    I think they were happy to buy a League One club last year. So what’s changed? Is it finding investors who share their optimism?
    Have no idea if I’m honest.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221

    My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.

    Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?

    Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.

    As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.

    In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.

  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,889

    My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.

    Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?

    Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.

    As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.

    In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.

    Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.

    Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221

    My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.

    Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?

    Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.

    As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.

    In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.

    Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.

    Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
    Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.

    In any case that could easily be overcome by having different prices or a price dependent on promotion ie £20m now plus £10m if we go up.

    And it's not just one consortuim that seem to have cold feet, it is all of them. No one can close a deal but none of that is Roland's fault, only the buyers. Sorry, just doesn't add up to me. The buyers may well be at fault but so is the seller.
  • My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.

    Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?

    Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.

    As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.

    In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.

    Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.

    Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
    Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.
    I'm still convinced it was BS to try and hustle along other bidders, I've not seen anything to persuade me otherwise.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    We are 2 sleeps away from Parker day and then it's Murray's Month.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    I’m feeling pretty negative about this sale happening any time soon. We need RD to lose an enormous amount of money in a very short space of time so that he actually needs to sell the club.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited January 2019

    My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.

    Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?

    Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.

    As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.

    In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.

    Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.

    Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
    Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.
    I'm still convinced it was BS to try and hustle along other bidders, I've not seen anything to persuade me otherwise.
    There are things which happened behind the scenes - such as detailed involvement in player recruitment - that would have no bearing on that.
  • My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.

    Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?

    Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.

    As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.

    In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.

    Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.

    Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
    Can’t understand the logic here. Charlton Athletic are a league one club. The Aussie Consortium knew that when they started their courtship and if they are / were wavering because of last years playoff failure and the fear of a repeat this year then I suggest they start looking at Championship clubs to buy and not a league one club.

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