The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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No, but if he were on a two year contract we would either keep him or get more.1
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Of course RD was going to sell him. However it's not the sale that's hard to take, It's because Grant almost certainly won't be adequately replaced. Surely it would only be a small gamble to give LB some of the fee to get 1 or 2 quality replacements to get us into the Championship. Shrewd bussiness man, or stubborn old fool?5
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No he is just a ""Melrose said:Of course RD was going to sell him. However it's not the sale that's hard to take, It's because Grant almost certainly won't be adequately replaced. Surely it would only be a small gamble to give LB some of the fee to get 1 or 2 quality replacements to get us into the Championship. Shrewd bussiness man, or stubborn old fool?
& that's not u Melrose 👌🏻...👍2 -
On the page 2525, if Charlton fans are still alive
If Katrien had survived, they may find
On the page 3535
Roland ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the bull you took today
On the page 4545
You ain't gonna need your eyes won't need your brain
You won't find a thing to believe
Nobody's gonna buy our club
On the page 5555
Your scarf is hangin' limp at your sides
Your heart is giving up
Some crackpot still owns our club
On the page 6565
You won't need no red shirt, won't need no white shorts
Roland'll pick your team, pick your colours too
From the bottom of a long glass tube
On the page 7510
If Roland's still not gone, He oughta make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
Guess it's time for the judgment day
On the page 8510
Roland is gonna shake His mighty head
He'll either say I'm pleased where Charlton has been
Or tear it down, and start again
On the page 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if Charlton is gonna be alive
Roland's taken everything this old club can give
And he ain't put back nothing
Now it's been ten thousand pages
Charlton fans have cried a billion tears
For what, Roland never knew, now Roland's reign is through
But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight
So very far away, maybe it's only yesterday
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Has it been 48 hours yet?0
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Won't the operating costs and losses be greater in The Championship? And he wouldn't provide a squad that would be able to compete.Melrose said:Of course RD was going to sell him. However it's not the sale that's hard to take, It's because Grant almost certainly won't be adequately replaced. Surely it would only be a small gamble to give LB some of the fee to get 1 or 2 quality replacements to get us into the Championship. Shrewd bussiness man, or stubborn old fool?
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This is very much true. If we were to go up this season, we would come back down instantly if RD continues to own us.Ferryman said:
Won't the operating costs and losses be greater in The Championship? And he wouldn't provide a squad that would be able to compete.Melrose said:Of course RD was going to sell him. However it's not the sale that's hard to take, It's because Grant almost certainly won't be adequately replaced. Surely it would only be a small gamble to give LB some of the fee to get 1 or 2 quality replacements to get us into the Championship. Shrewd bussiness man, or stubborn old fool?
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Not talking about RD owning us in Championship. Just getting us there. He will get a better price on his investement. When there, hopefully the right owners will push the club forwards1
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I miss the days when Katrien used to roll out the reasoning of how we we we're respecting the players wishes for a move, as she would remind us, we should be happy, we saw a Premier league player of the future. Stay humbleAirman Brown said:
Again. He cannot walk away on a free.addick05 said:
Decides to sell? What do you expect him to do....quadruple Karlan's salary? Or watch him walk away on a free at the end of the season? Really it's a no brainer for our Belgian hero.cafcwill said:The Grant sale is a massive sign (to me anyway) that the takeover is still far away
We're in the best position in years to get promotion, with a good team. Roland decides to sell one of the reasons we're up there. Classic Roland.
I'm still #TeamWIOTOS but I don't see it happening until the summer at the earliest.
Oh well
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Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.4
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Has to beScoham said:Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.
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I would caution you to wait until news is posted onto the clubs official website.Henry Irving said:
Has to beScoham said:Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.
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Your advice is sound and I shall take it fully onboardRedrobo said:
I would caution you to wait until news is posted onto the clubs official website.Henry Irving said:
Has to beScoham said:Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.
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You’ll hear it from @DOUCHER first.Redrobo said:
I would caution you to wait until news is posted onto the clubs official website.Henry Irving said:
Has to beScoham said:Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.
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what announcement are we waiting for? the grant thing, told you my friends, its done - completo - done deal shall we say? WIOTOS my arse!!!JamesSeed said:
You’ll hear it from @DOUCHER first.Redrobo said:
I would caution you to wait until news is posted onto the clubs official website.Henry Irving said:
Has to beScoham said:Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.
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The club is SOLD!!!!!
* edit, sorry i meant 'SOILED'7 -
I think you may be thinking of the transfer window thread. This is the thread about the possible sale of our great club.DOUCHER said:
what announcement are we waiting for? the grant thing, told you my friends, its done - completo - done deal shall we say? WIOTOS my arse!!!JamesSeed said:
You’ll hear it from @DOUCHER first.Redrobo said:
I would caution you to wait until news is posted onto the clubs official website.Henry Irving said:
Has to beScoham said:Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.
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i knowRedrobo said:
I think you may be thinking of the transfer window thread. This is the thread about the possible sale of our great club.DOUCHER said:
what announcement are we waiting for? the grant thing, told you my friends, its done - completo - done deal shall we say? WIOTOS my arse!!!JamesSeed said:
You’ll hear it from @DOUCHER first.Redrobo said:
I would caution you to wait until news is posted onto the clubs official website.Henry Irving said:
Has to beScoham said:Nothing from the club on Twitter or the OS all day. Clearly preparing for the takeover announcement tomorrow.
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Larry van Rental: Mr Roland sir, if you want a realistic chance of getting 40 million it would be best to keep all the top players including Mr Grant, Mr Aribo, Mr Taylor, and Mr Bauer to the end of the season when a Championship team in a prime London location may be worth 35 to 40 million with a bit of luck.
Roland Duchatelet: that's a good idea.
Larry Van Rentals: oh by the way, Huddersfield offered 1.5 million plus add ons, for Mr Grant, shall I tell them to do one.
Roland Duchatelet: sell sell sell.
Some names have been changed to protect the innocent.0 -
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My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.3
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I think they were happy to buy a League One club last year. So what’s changed? Is it finding investors who share their optimism?valleynick66 said:My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Have no idea if I’m honest.0 -
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?valleynick66 said:My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
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Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.Henry Irving said:
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?valleynick66 said:My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.1 -
Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.valleynick66 said:
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.Henry Irving said:
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?valleynick66 said:My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
In any case that could easily be overcome by having different prices or a price dependent on promotion ie £20m now plus £10m if we go up.
And it's not just one consortuim that seem to have cold feet, it is all of them. No one can close a deal but none of that is Roland's fault, only the buyers. Sorry, just doesn't add up to me. The buyers may well be at fault but so is the seller.5 -
I'm still convinced it was BS to try and hustle along other bidders, I've not seen anything to persuade me otherwise.Henry Irving said:
Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.valleynick66 said:
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.Henry Irving said:
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?valleynick66 said:My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.5 -
We are 2 sleeps away from Parker day and then it's Murray's Month.5
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I’m feeling pretty negative about this sale happening any time soon. We need RD to lose an enormous amount of money in a very short space of time so that he actually needs to sell the club.0
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There are things which happened behind the scenes - such as detailed involvement in player recruitment - that would have no bearing on that.Stu_of_Kunming said:
I'm still convinced it was BS to try and hustle along other bidders, I've not seen anything to persuade me otherwise.Henry Irving said:
Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.valleynick66 said:
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.Henry Irving said:
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?valleynick66 said:My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.0 -
Can’t understand the logic here. Charlton Athletic are a league one club. The Aussie Consortium knew that when they started their courtship and if they are / were wavering because of last years playoff failure and the fear of a repeat this year then I suggest they start looking at Championship clubs to buy and not a league one club.valleynick66 said:
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.Henry Irving said:
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?valleynick66 said:My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
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