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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Well my theory about why the Aussies haven't bought us is because they cannot commit having seen the mess the Spivs left the club in. There may be issues over whether the spivs actually owned the club and could therefore sell on to Roland (see the Jiminez court case thread). @JamesSeed has intimated this might be one issue on the hold up, but nobody is listening. It has obviously cost the Aussies a whole bunch of DD money to get to the bottom of what really happened before, and I'm sure has put off some of the other potential buyers too. Even if Dalman continues his own DD, that may throw up the same issues, and he may do what the Aussies have done and try to negotiate the price down because of this. If you offer £500,00 for a house and then during the survey find dry rot, you may still want to buy the house but not at the originally agreed price - that's my house buying analogy for where I think the Aussies are.killerandflash said:
But why? If they had the funds lined up a year or so, why not cut your losses and buy someone else instead? I don't get what's so special about us that they would be prepared to wait and wait and wait...Cardinal Sin said:
Well they haven't gone after anyone else and are still here. Maybe they really want to buy us.killerandflash said:
Sorry I don't buy that, especially as it's not an individual and the make up of the consortium seems to have changed during the period.Cardinal Sin said:
We shouldn't blame the Aussies for hanging about - we should praise them for it. If the price Duchatelet was asking for was completely unrealistic and they knew no-one else was going to pay it, why not wait for the price to drop? That is what appears to have happened. I'd rather new owners only pay what the deal is worth so that they have more money available to run the club. I don't believe for a minute that they will spend £40m acquiring the club and then be unable to develop it or run it for long enough before running out of funds.clb74 said:
I don't think this fella will be messing about for 2 years JamesJamesSeed said:
Sum is close to the £33m plus directors loans Muttley. Same for this Cardiff fella. It was more (nearer Airman’s £45m) but Roly reduced it (the selling his shares for £1 business). Roland wants out, and much of it is down to the protests which have really got to him.MuttleyCAFC said:Airman has confirmed that there is no shortage of potential buyers. Nobody is buying because Roland wants too much. So this is just more of the same crap. Are we supposed to forget he wants too much or assume an even bigger idiot than him wants to buy us at £60m?
Dalman seems like he means business, but he’ll probably discover all the crap that Gerard discovered, and it’s a question of whether or not it puts him off, I imagine. How it could happen quickly I have no idea, but we live in hope.
The idea that someone would try to buy a club, and then deliberately wait 2 years to get the price to come down is bizarre. If that was the case, why haven't the Aussies been linked with other clubs? If the Aussies were quoted an unacceptable price to buy us, surely the logical thing would be to say "goodbye drongo" and look elsewhere, not wait 2 years...
So when Roland says that a price is agreed, that may well be the case (much like the Brexit £39billion), but without an agreement going forwards and based on what DD has thrown up, that is worth nothing until the paperwork is signed.0 -
I think they’re talking about it in the Bowyer thread ;-)JoshAddick said:Everyone is getting so caught up in this that no one seems to be talking about the fact Bowyer still hasn’t signed a contract10 -
Must keep posting on here, just to keep Happy Valley in a job, hope he’s being paid well 😉1
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I don't think that article is all that bad like others have said. Very very vague comments by Dalman. It's like he wants to be the owner of Charlton but also wants a fall back plan/not look like a snake to the Cardiff fans. So using phrases like 'right in this moment in time' puts him in a position where if his takeover falls through he can make out to Cardiff as if he was loyal all along, if he comes to an agreement he can argue he never made any guarantees.
How often do you see footballers do this? Sometimes they're even worse. Will kiss the badge, say they're loyal etc, 6 months later they're handing in a transfer request.
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or things are moving good atm but there are still a i's to dot t's to cross and until something does or might happen he will remain at Cardiff.killerandflash said:If he was so happy at Cardiff and could never let Neil and the club down blah blah, he would never have contacted Roland about a possible takeover in the first place. The statement said all the right things for the Cardiff fans, but it certainly wasn't a 100% confirmation that he would still be their Chairman next season.
At the moment I'd say that the takeover was still a possibility, but clearly there were major issues which might kill it off completely.
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While I agree that Bowyers contract is more pressing than a takeover- the two do feel intrinsically linked.21
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He seems to be speaking in similar terms to a club manager who is about to be offered another club, how many times have we heard "All I am concentrating on is winning the next game etc", sounds in a similar context to me.5
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Cynic in me thinks he leaked it yesterday so he could say he was staying in Cardiff today just to ratchet up the pressure for RD to sort out whatever is blocking the deal5
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We know what's blocking it, and he is known as The Helmet.Imnot Athletic said:Cynic in me thinks he leaked it yesterday so he could say he was staying in Cardiff today just to ratchet up the pressure for RD to sort out whatever is blocking the deal5 - Sponsored links:
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I predict.
That by roughly 11.30am tommorow. This thread will have something like another 400 comments added.
Most of those comments will be about loan payments. Directors. "The Aussies". Bowyer might get a mention.
I also sadly and regrettably predict that on the 13.06.2020 (this time next year)
This thread will be sticking around.
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Sorry mate, just feel so shit and sick of it all now.killerandflash said:
There certainly is a fair chance of relegation this season, but to suggest that we will never get back is way over the top.CAFCTrev said:If hes still here for next season I think relegation back to L1 is pretty much guaranteed. We will be lucky if we ever claw our way back again.0 -
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Sorry but that last sentence is complete BS and you know it, why even say it?CAFCTrev said:If hes still here for next season I think relegation back to L1 is pretty much guaranteed. We will be lucky if we ever claw our way back again.
Wouldn't go as strong as BS, but it would have been better had Trev given a timeline, say within 10 years?0 -
5.9m2
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It’s going to happen!1
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Maybe because this is the discussion about the sale of CharltonJoshAddick said:Everyone is getting so caught up in this that no one seems to be talking about the fact Bowyer still hasn’t signed a contract
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👍This week's prize for most gratuitous brexit reference. 😀😀Pedro45 said:
Well my theory about why the Aussies haven't bought us is because they cannot commit having seen the mess the Spivs left the club in. There may be issues over whether the spivs actually owned the club and could therefore sell on to Roland (see the Jiminez court case thread). @JamesSeed has intimated this might be one issue on the hold up, but nobody is listening. It has obviously cost the Aussies a whole bunch of DD money to get to the bottom of what really happened before, and I'm sure has put off some of the other potential buyers too. Even if Dalman continues his own DD, that may throw up the same issues, and he may do what the Aussies have done and try to negotiate the price down because of this. If you offer £500,00 for a house and then during the survey find dry rot, you may still want to buy the house but not at the originally agreed price - that's my house buying analogy for where I think the Aussies are.killerandflash said:
But why? If they had the funds lined up a year or so, why not cut your losses and buy someone else instead? I don't get what's so special about us that they would be prepared to wait and wait and wait...Cardinal Sin said:
Well they haven't gone after anyone else and are still here. Maybe they really want to buy us.killerandflash said:
Sorry I don't buy that, especially as it's not an individual and the make up of the consortium seems to have changed during the period.Cardinal Sin said:
We shouldn't blame the Aussies for hanging about - we should praise them for it. If the price Duchatelet was asking for was completely unrealistic and they knew no-one else was going to pay it, why not wait for the price to drop? That is what appears to have happened. I'd rather new owners only pay what the deal is worth so that they have more money available to run the club. I don't believe for a minute that they will spend £40m acquiring the club and then be unable to develop it or run it for long enough before running out of funds.clb74 said:
I don't think this fella will be messing about for 2 years JamesJamesSeed said:
Sum is close to the £33m plus directors loans Muttley. Same for this Cardiff fella. It was more (nearer Airman’s £45m) but Roly reduced it (the selling his shares for £1 business). Roland wants out, and much of it is down to the protests which have really got to him.MuttleyCAFC said:Airman has confirmed that there is no shortage of potential buyers. Nobody is buying because Roland wants too much. So this is just more of the same crap. Are we supposed to forget he wants too much or assume an even bigger idiot than him wants to buy us at £60m?
Dalman seems like he means business, but he’ll probably discover all the crap that Gerard discovered, and it’s a question of whether or not it puts him off, I imagine. How it could happen quickly I have no idea, but we live in hope.
The idea that someone would try to buy a club, and then deliberately wait 2 years to get the price to come down is bizarre. If that was the case, why haven't the Aussies been linked with other clubs? If the Aussies were quoted an unacceptable price to buy us, surely the logical thing would be to say "goodbye drongo" and look elsewhere, not wait 2 years...
So when Roland says that a price is agreed, that may well be the case (much like the Brexit £39billion), but without an agreement going forwards and based on what DD has thrown up, that is worth nothing until the paperwork is signed.1 -
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Henry Irving said:5.9m
Isn't that the calibre of an artillery shell?0 - Sponsored links:
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addick05 said:Henry Irving said:5.9m
Isn't that the calibre of an artillery shell?
5.9 metres???? I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that!1 -
bobmunro said:addick05 said:Henry Irving said:5.9m
Isn't that the calibre of an artillery shell?
5.9 metres???? I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that!
Not the range - 5.9 inches, refers to the internal diameter of the barrel.0 -
1723, Vivaldi composes The Four Seasons.13
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Loving the spelling error there, Happy Valley. It was Frankie VALLI.10
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200 years later they are still going strong.happyvalley said:1723, Vivaldi composes The Four Seasons.9 -
Finished it at 18:00happyvalley said:1723, Vivaldi composes The Four Seasons.4 -
Always thought that was Frankie Valli !happyvalley said:1723, Vivaldi composes The Four Seasons.1 -
Erm, see 5.03pm.jondon76 said:
Always thought that was Frankie Valli !happyvalley said:1723, Vivaldi composes The Four Seasons.0 -
Sell the club RD.0
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You have to remember that they are dealing with Roland Duchatelet. It probably doesn't make complete sense to them either. We all know how weird the owner is.KBslittlesis said:u
So buy us then.Cardinal Sin said:
Well they haven't gone after anyone else and are still here. Maybe they really want to buy us.killerandflash said:
Sorry I don't buy that, especially as it's not an individual and the make up of the consortium seems to have changed during the period.Cardinal Sin said:
We shouldn't blame the Aussies for hanging about - we should praise them for it. If the price Duchatelet was asking for was completely unrealistic and they knew no-one else was going to pay it, why not wait for the price to drop? That is what appears to have happened. I'd rather new owners only pay what the deal is worth so that they have more money available to run the club. I don't believe for a minute that they will spend £40m acquiring the club and then be unable to develop it or run it for long enough before running out of funds.clb74 said:
I don't think this fella will be messing about for 2 years JamesJamesSeed said:
Sum is close to the £33m plus directors loans Muttley. Same for this Cardiff fella. It was more (nearer Airman’s £45m) but Roly reduced it (the selling his shares for £1 business). Roland wants out, and much of it is down to the protests which have really got to him.MuttleyCAFC said:Airman has confirmed that there is no shortage of potential buyers. Nobody is buying because Roland wants too much. So this is just more of the same crap. Are we supposed to forget he wants too much or assume an even bigger idiot than him wants to buy us at £60m?
Dalman seems like he means business, but he’ll probably discover all the crap that Gerard discovered, and it’s a question of whether or not it puts him off, I imagine. How it could happen quickly I have no idea, but we live in hope.
The idea that someone would try to buy a club, and then deliberately wait 2 years to get the price to come down is bizarre. If that was the case, why haven't the Aussies been linked with other clubs? If the Aussies were quoted an unacceptable price to buy us, surely the logical thing would be to say "goodbye drongo" and look elsewhere, not wait 2 years...
Stop dicking about.
None of this makes sense.0
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