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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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I'm not a great one for long elaborate posts so maybe not made my points very succinctly, I suppose what I'm most trying to say is that I'm getting a bit fed up personally with all the negativity surrounding the club. I've been a supporter for nearly 50 years, seen great times and bad. Loved the rollercoaster to be honest as it's what being a Charlton supporter has been all about, rather than taking the easy option of supporting a bigger and more successful club. I was desperate to get out of League one to play against the Leeds, Forests, Millwalls etc. and now we have I'm going to enjoy the season. I genuinely believe that whatever we say on here and discuss makes no difference at all to Roland and the sale of the club, so when it happens I will be delighted, but until it does I'm taking a positive approach and will enjoy the ride. No disrespect to others opinions as they are no doubt valid and part of the emotions involved.Davo55 said:@Webby
I'm not arguing that Duchatelet should spend more. I'm arguing that, as an owner, he is abysmal and we could do so much better. He could be spending £millions and still be a totally crap owner. It's about a lot more than finances.4 -
I’d be a lot happier with the weasel if he sold our top players for top money and reinvested even half of it. Whatever owner we have they’re gonna sell players if the big boys come sniffing, it’s the way this dick goes about it. I think a lot of clubs run off this model.Davo55 said:@Webby
I'm not arguing that Duchatelet should spend more. I'm arguing that, as an owner, he is abysmal and we could do so much better. He could be spending £millions and still be a totally crap owner. It's about a lot more than finances.3 -
Because in my opinion spending more money, increasing salaries and debt makes the club less attractive to buyers.stonemuse said:
Spending what you don’t have could well be a recipe for disaster. But I don’t understand why Roland spending money would be unappealing to prospective buyers?Webby said:
Agree with most points but although we have the lowest budget we will still lose money, just not as much as the clubs spending more. You need to cut your cloth accordingly and many have said that plenty of clubs will go to the wall by spending money you don't have. Regards Aribo, to be honest he had not really emerged as a great player when entered the last year of contract, just came good as the season progressed in my opinion. If he hadn't we would have been lumbered with another contracted player on wages we cant afford. In relation to Lyle Taylor, Roland is obviously backing Bowyer to have contact extension talks. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Roland but spending what you dont have is a recipe for disaster and also very unappealing to prospective buyers
"Better the devil you know"? I can't agree with that, even though I have some sympathy with the sentiments in your post.Webby said:I have actually given up worrying about a takeover. Not sure any interested parties will be chucking millions about to push us up to the premiership anytime soon. Better the devil you know, Roland has been wearing huge loses and seemingly continuing to do so whilst agreeing a contract with the likes of Bowyer, Williams etc. Almost refreshing to have a club not throwing away money that they don't have in the hope of an unlikely/difficult promotion. At least with the current financial setup we are managing to secure the right type of players who want to prove themselves and is more about playing at the highest standard possible, rather than for who will pay the highest wages. I am hopeful that we can avoid relegation, have some great fixtures for the new season to attend in front of some decent crowds. So in a nutshell I am very excited about the upcoming seasons and hopeful we can secure some quality loan signings to make us competitive and give us a decent chance of winning, rather than a tonking. So I am trying my hardest to ignore the negativity and keeping that huge smile me and the family had on our faces back at Wembley in May
Let's not forget that we have:
- an owner who is totally disinterested in results and in the relationship with the fans
- no executive management at the club
- a part-time Belgian accountant overseeing matters
- undue confidence being placed in the views of Driesen
- the (as reported by Bowyer himself) lowest budget in the Championship
- an owner who totally screwed up the Aribo contractual situation so we lost him (as we did others before him) for a pittance
- other key players (notably Lyle Taylor) entering their last year of contract
As always, under Duchatelet we are always just one step away from chaos.
Yes, he keeps the club going but he stands to lose a great deal more by going into administration, so let's not afford Duchatelet too much credit for that.
The man has been and continues to be a disaster for our club.
"Better the devil you know"? I can't agree with that, even though I have some sympathy with the sentiments in your post.Webby said:I have actually given up worrying about a takeover. Not sure any interested parties will be chucking millions about to push us up to the premiership anytime soon. Better the devil you know, Roland has been wearing huge loses and seemingly continuing to do so whilst agreeing a contract with the likes of Bowyer, Williams etc. Almost refreshing to have a club not throwing away money that they don't have in the hope of an unlikely/difficult promotion. At least with the current financial setup we are managing to secure the right type of players who want to prove themselves and is more about playing at the highest standard possible, rather than for who will pay the highest wages. I am hopeful that we can avoid relegation, have some great fixtures for the new season to attend in front of some decent crowds. So in a nutshell I am very excited about the upcoming seasons and hopeful we can secure some quality loan signings to make us competitive and give us a decent chance of winning, rather than a tonking. So I am trying my hardest to ignore the negativity and keeping that huge smile me and the family had on our faces back at Wembley in May
Let's not forget that we have:
- an owner who is totally disinterested in results and in the relationship with the fans
- no executive management at the club
- a part-time Belgian accountant overseeing matters
- undue confidence being placed in the views of Driesen
- the (as reported by Bowyer himself) lowest budget in the Championship
- an owner who totally screwed up the Aribo contractual situation so we lost him (as we did others before him) for a pittance
- other key players (notably Lyle Taylor) entering their last year of contract
As always, under Duchatelet we are always just one step away from chaos.
Yes, he keeps the club going but he stands to lose a great deal more by going into administration, so let's not afford Duchatelet too much credit for that.
The man has been and continues to be a disaster for our club.6 -
It's nothing to do with how much money is spent it is everything to do with what the money is spent on. The cupid stunt has pissed it all up the wall.6
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No bother mate :-)DOUCHER said:DOUCHER said:StigThundercock said:
and there's a third species that knows naff all, pretends otherwise, rubbishes any information whatever the source and enjoys winding people up, for kudos from fellow keyboard worriers with even less to occupy their timeDOUCHER said:
and there's some who know f~~k all but are prepared to analyse the arse out of every little scrap of information - over and over and over again...Chizz said:There are some posters who know an awful lot about "bollox fed out to put us off the scent", so maybe that's a comment worth noting.
Not sure where the logical conclusion to this is but there are some who would have absolutely zero to say if they didn't chuck a load of over exaggerated nonsense into their posts but each to their own.
sorry cabbles, hadn't read your post before I posted this0 -
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To be honest I'd be surprised if George Lapslie isnt Manager in 21-years
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You'd enjoy the ride on the outside lane without our owner, currently we're on the hard shoulder.Webby said:
I'm not a great one for long elaborate posts so maybe not made my points very succinctly, I suppose what I'm most trying to say is that I'm getting a bit fed up personally with all the negativity surrounding the club. I've been a supporter for nearly 50 years, seen great times and bad. Loved the rollercoaster to be honest as it's what being a Charlton supporter has been all about, rather than taking the easy option of supporting a bigger and more successful club. I was desperate to get out of League one to play against the Leeds, Forests, Millwalls etc. and now we have I'm going to enjoy the season. I genuinely believe that whatever we say on here and discuss makes no difference at all to Roland and the sale of the club, so when it happens I will be delighted, but until it does I'm taking a positive approach and will enjoy the ride. No disrespect to others opinions as they are no doubt valid and part of the emotions involved.Davo55 said:@Webby
I'm not arguing that Duchatelet should spend more. I'm arguing that, as an owner, he is abysmal and we could do so much better. He could be spending £millions and still be a totally crap owner. It's about a lot more than finances.0 -
1919, our beloved Valley is dug out and opened with a 2-0 win against Summerstown.19
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Don't tell us Winterfell were in the same division as wellhappyvalley said:1919, our beloved Valley is dug out and opened with a 2-0 win against Summerstown.. 3 - Sponsored links:
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ForeverAddickted said:To be honest I'd be surprised if George Lapslie isnt Manager in 21-years
Can we have an 'Aged' photo of George too?1 -
Right said thread...0
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Why not...
2069: Legendary Charlton player and manager George Lapslie pulls on the shirt once again ahead of the 2019 League 1 play-off final anniversary game.
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Finally managed to get some inside info on the key players in the Aussie consortium
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I see Douchebag, just like I see the Eurocrats in Brussels, both have lots of money and both spend it really badly!Davo55 said:
"Better the devil you know"? I can't agree with that, even though I have some sympathy with the sentiments in your post.Webby said:I have actually given up worrying about a takeover. Not sure any interested parties will be chucking millions about to push us up to the premiership anytime soon. Better the devil you know, Roland has been wearing huge loses and seemingly continuing to do so whilst agreeing a contract with the likes of Bowyer, Williams etc. Almost refreshing to have a club not throwing away money that they don't have in the hope of an unlikely/difficult promotion. At least with the current financial setup we are managing to secure the right type of players who want to prove themselves and is more about playing at the highest standard possible, rather than for who will pay the highest wages. I am hopeful that we can avoid relegation, have some great fixtures for the new season to attend in front of some decent crowds. So in a nutshell I am very excited about the upcoming seasons and hopeful we can secure some quality loan signings to make us competitive and give us a decent chance of winning, rather than a tonking. So I am trying my hardest to ignore the negativity and keeping that huge smile me and the family had on our faces back at Wembley in May
Let's not forget that we have:
- an owner who is totally disinterested in results and in the relationship with the fans
- no executive management at the club
- a part-time Belgian accountant overseeing matters
- undue confidence being placed in the views of Driesen
- the (as reported by Bowyer himself) lowest budget in the Championship
- an owner who totally screwed up the Aribo contractual situation so we lost him (as we did others before him) for a pittance
- other key players (notably Lyle Taylor) entering their last year of contract
As always, under Duchatelet we are always just one step away from chaos.
Yes, he keeps the club going but he stands to lose a great deal more by going into administration, so let's not afford Duchatelet too much credit for that.
The man has been and continues to be a disaster for our club.
The daft old Scrote has done 75 million of his lovely Euros at CAFC and achieved nothing but contempt and ridicule.
FECK OFF SOON ROLLY!
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Longtimeaddicted said:
I see Douchebag, just like I see the Eurocrats in Brussels, both have lots of money and both spend it really badly!Davo55 said:
"Better the devil you know"? I can't agree with that, even though I have some sympathy with the sentiments in your post.Webby said:I have actually given up worrying about a takeover. Not sure any interested parties will be chucking millions about to push us up to the premiership anytime soon. Better the devil you know, Roland has been wearing huge loses and seemingly continuing to do so whilst agreeing a contract with the likes of Bowyer, Williams etc. Almost refreshing to have a club not throwing away money that they don't have in the hope of an unlikely/difficult promotion. At least with the current financial setup we are managing to secure the right type of players who want to prove themselves and is more about playing at the highest standard possible, rather than for who will pay the highest wages. I am hopeful that we can avoid relegation, have some great fixtures for the new season to attend in front of some decent crowds. So in a nutshell I am very excited about the upcoming seasons and hopeful we can secure some quality loan signings to make us competitive and give us a decent chance of winning, rather than a tonking. So I am trying my hardest to ignore the negativity and keeping that huge smile me and the family had on our faces back at Wembley in May
Let's not forget that we have:
- an owner who is totally disinterested in results and in the relationship with the fans
- no executive management at the club
- a part-time Belgian accountant overseeing matters
- undue confidence being placed in the views of Driesen
- the (as reported by Bowyer himself) lowest budget in the Championship
- an owner who totally screwed up the Aribo contractual situation so we lost him (as we did others before him) for a pittance
- other key players (notably Lyle Taylor) entering their last year of contract
As always, under Duchatelet we are always just one step away from chaos.
Yes, he keeps the club going but he stands to lose a great deal more by going into administration, so let's not afford Duchatelet too much credit for that.
The man has been and continues to be a disaster for our club.
The daft old Scrote has done 75 million of his lovely Euros at CAFC and achieved nothing but contempt and ridicule.
FECK OFF SOON ROLLY!
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I'd be happy with thatElfsborgAddick said:
I think he should be allowed back on, I'd sacrifice my place on here for that!_MrDick said:
And then there’s Colin ...StigThundercock said:
and there's a third species that knows naff all, pretends otherwise, rubbishes any information whatever the source and enjoys winding people up, for kudos from fellow keyboard worriers with even less to occupy their timeDOUCHER said:
and there's some who know f~~k all but are prepared to analyse the arse out of every little scrap of information - over and over and over again...Chizz said:There are some posters who know an awful lot about "bollox fed out to put us off the scent", so maybe that's a comment worth noting.
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HilariousAllHailTheHen said:Finally managed to get some inside info on the key players in the Aussie consortium0 -
There's a nice one in Barnsley apparently!1StevieG said:
Might go for a Chinese tonight...blackpool72 said:Rumours even2 - Sponsored links:
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Thanks Roland.Webby said:I have actually given up worrying about a takeover. Not sure any interested parties will be chucking millions about to push us up to the premiership anytime soon. Better the devil you know, Roland has been wearing huge loses and seemingly continuing to do so whilst agreeing a contract with the likes of Bowyer, Williams etc. Almost refreshing to have a club not throwing away money that they don't have in the hope of an unlikely/difficult promotion. At least with the current financial setup we are managing to secure the right type of players who want to prove themselves and is more about playing at the highest standard possible, rather than for who will pay the highest wages. I am hopeful that we can avoid relegation, have some great fixtures for the new season to attend in front of some decent crowds. So in a nutshell I am very excited about the upcoming seasons and hopeful we can secure some quality loan signings to make us competitive and give us a decent chance of winning, rather than a tonking. So I am trying my hardest to ignore the negativity and keeping that huge smile me and the family had on our faces back at Wembley in May0 -
Webby said:
I'm not a great one for long elaborate posts so maybe not made my points very succinctly, I suppose what I'm most trying to say is that I'm getting a bit fed up personally with all the negativity surrounding the club. I've been a supporter for nearly 50 years, seen great times and bad. Loved the rollercoaster to be honest as it's what being a Charlton supporter has been all about, rather than taking the easy option of supporting a bigger and more successful club. I was desperate to get out of League one to play against the Leeds, Forests, Millwalls etc. and now we have I'm going to enjoy the season. I genuinely believe that whatever we say on here and discuss makes no difference at all to Roland and the sale of the club, so when it happens I will be delighted, but until it does I'm taking a positive approach and will enjoy the ride. No disrespect to others opinions as they are no doubt valid and part of the emotions involved.Davo55 said:@Webby
I'm not arguing that Duchatelet should spend more. I'm arguing that, as an owner, he is abysmal and we could do so much better. He could be spending £millions and still be a totally crap owner. It's about a lot more than finances.
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Brilliant post.Chizz said:
I think it's great to read a post that's so positive and a reminder that all we really want is to concentrate on all aspects of the club steadily improving, but with the playing side being by far the most important.Webby said:I have actually given up worrying about a takeover. Not sure any interested parties will be chucking millions about to push us up to the premiership anytime soon. Better the devil you know, Roland has been wearing huge loses and seemingly continuing to do so whilst agreeing a contract with the likes of Bowyer, Williams etc. Almost refreshing to have a club not throwing away money that they don't have in the hope of an unlikely/difficult promotion. At least with the current financial setup we are managing to secure the right type of players who want to prove themselves and is more about playing at the highest standard possible, rather than for who will pay the highest wages. I am hopeful that we can avoid relegation, have some great fixtures for the new season to attend in front of some decent crowds. So in a nutshell I am very excited about the upcoming seasons and hopeful we can secure some quality loan signings to make us competitive and give us a decent chance of winning, rather than a tonking. So I am trying my hardest to ignore the negativity and keeping that huge smile me and the family had on our faces back at Wembley in May
I have to take issue with a couple of things, however. You've said "at least with the current financial setup we are managing to secure the right type of players...". Everything positive that's happened on the pitch since Lee Bowyer was given the gig is DESPITE the current financial set up, and not BECAUSE of it. The owner is ruining our football club. Whether that's deliberate or accidental; whether it's terminal or merely in serious danger; whether it's past the point of no return or it can still be brought back from the brink: we don't yet know. But we can be certain that the longer the current owner retains control, the closer we are to complete oblivion. The club will not exist in future unless the current owner sells. He is part-way through a process that can only end with the full destruction of the club, unless he moves ownership on beforehand. So, I totally agree that it's great we have signed some useful players. But I can't agree that any credit should go to "the current financial setup", because that is precisely what is destroying the future of the club.
And I can't agree with the phrase "better the devil you know". We know the devil that owns the football club far better than we did when he calamitously bought the club. My opinion: the current owner's continued tenure is not better than the alternative, where the alternative is the current owner not owning the club. He's the cancer, the death sentence, the malignancy, the malevolence, the venomous, vindictive, tawdry Grim Reaper who is hastening the end of our club.
He. Has. To. Go.
Everything else falls into place after that.
I promise you the smile on the faces of your family and everyone else's will return, fuller, better and more often. And it will be more permanent when the ageing fool is no longer casting his obnoxious shadow over the club. When he and the infectious cadre of self-serving, dissembling hypocrites are gone, we can all smile the biggest smiles imaginable. Because then, and only then, we'll have our Charlton back.5 -
Fawaz looking at Bolton apparently1
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I’ve just scrolled through 23 pages just to read happy valleys daily tip bit. That’s all I’ve read.2
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But Duchatalet isn’t spending money that he ‘does’ have!stonemuse said:
Spending what you don’t have could well be a recipe for disaster. But I don’t understand why Roland spending money would be unappealing to prospective buyers?Webby said:
Agree with most points but although we have the lowest budget we will still lose money, just not as much as the clubs spending more. You need to cut your cloth accordingly and many have said that plenty of clubs will go to the wall by spending money you don't have. Regards Aribo, to be honest he had not really emerged as a great player when entered the last year of contract, just came good as the season progressed in my opinion. If he hadn't we would have been lumbered with another contracted player on wages we cant afford. In relation to Lyle Taylor, Roland is obviously backing Bowyer to have contact extension talks. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Roland but spending what you dont have is a recipe for disaster and also very unappealing to prospective buyers
"Better the devil you know"? I can't agree with that, even though I have some sympathy with the sentiments in your post.Webby said:I have actually given up worrying about a takeover. Not sure any interested parties will be chucking millions about to push us up to the premiership anytime soon. Better the devil you know, Roland has been wearing huge loses and seemingly continuing to do so whilst agreeing a contract with the likes of Bowyer, Williams etc. Almost refreshing to have a club not throwing away money that they don't have in the hope of an unlikely/difficult promotion. At least with the current financial setup we are managing to secure the right type of players who want to prove themselves and is more about playing at the highest standard possible, rather than for who will pay the highest wages. I am hopeful that we can avoid relegation, have some great fixtures for the new season to attend in front of some decent crowds. So in a nutshell I am very excited about the upcoming seasons and hopeful we can secure some quality loan signings to make us competitive and give us a decent chance of winning, rather than a tonking. So I am trying my hardest to ignore the negativity and keeping that huge smile me and the family had on our faces back at Wembley in May
Let's not forget that we have:
- an owner who is totally disinterested in results and in the relationship with the fans
- no executive management at the club
- a part-time Belgian accountant overseeing matters
- undue confidence being placed in the views of Driesen
- the (as reported by Bowyer himself) lowest budget in the Championship
- an owner who totally screwed up the Aribo contractual situation so we lost him (as we did others before him) for a pittance
- other key players (notably Lyle Taylor) entering their last year of contract
As always, under Duchatelet we are always just one step away from chaos.
Yes, he keeps the club going but he stands to lose a great deal more by going into administration, so let's not afford Duchatelet too much credit for that.
The man has been and continues to be a disaster for our club.
"Better the devil you know"? I can't agree with that, even though I have some sympathy with the sentiments in your post.Webby said:I have actually given up worrying about a takeover. Not sure any interested parties will be chucking millions about to push us up to the premiership anytime soon. Better the devil you know, Roland has been wearing huge loses and seemingly continuing to do so whilst agreeing a contract with the likes of Bowyer, Williams etc. Almost refreshing to have a club not throwing away money that they don't have in the hope of an unlikely/difficult promotion. At least with the current financial setup we are managing to secure the right type of players who want to prove themselves and is more about playing at the highest standard possible, rather than for who will pay the highest wages. I am hopeful that we can avoid relegation, have some great fixtures for the new season to attend in front of some decent crowds. So in a nutshell I am very excited about the upcoming seasons and hopeful we can secure some quality loan signings to make us competitive and give us a decent chance of winning, rather than a tonking. So I am trying my hardest to ignore the negativity and keeping that huge smile me and the family had on our faces back at Wembley in May
Let's not forget that we have:
- an owner who is totally disinterested in results and in the relationship with the fans
- no executive management at the club
- a part-time Belgian accountant overseeing matters
- undue confidence being placed in the views of Driesen
- the (as reported by Bowyer himself) lowest budget in the Championship
- an owner who totally screwed up the Aribo contractual situation so we lost him (as we did others before him) for a pittance
- other key players (notably Lyle Taylor) entering their last year of contract
As always, under Duchatelet we are always just one step away from chaos.
Yes, he keeps the club going but he stands to lose a great deal more by going into administration, so let's not afford Duchatelet too much credit for that.
The man has been and continues to be a disaster for our club.1 -
Is anyone really saying good things about RD, or are they just warning people that it is possible for things to get worse?ElfsborgAddick said:
Amazing how some people can still find a good word to say about our leader.Davo55 said:
"Better the devil you know"? I can't agree with that, even though I have some sympathy with the sentiments in your post.Webby said:I have actually given up worrying about a takeover. Not sure any interested parties will be chucking millions about to push us up to the premiership anytime soon. Better the devil you know, Roland has been wearing huge loses and seemingly continuing to do so whilst agreeing a contract with the likes of Bowyer, Williams etc. Almost refreshing to have a club not throwing away money that they don't have in the hope of an unlikely/difficult promotion. At least with the current financial setup we are managing to secure the right type of players who want to prove themselves and is more about playing at the highest standard possible, rather than for who will pay the highest wages. I am hopeful that we can avoid relegation, have some great fixtures for the new season to attend in front of some decent crowds. So in a nutshell I am very excited about the upcoming seasons and hopeful we can secure some quality loan signings to make us competitive and give us a decent chance of winning, rather than a tonking. So I am trying my hardest to ignore the negativity and keeping that huge smile me and the family had on our faces back at Wembley in May
Let's not forget that we have:
- an owner who is totally disinterested in results and in the relationship with the fans
- no executive management at the club
- a part-time Belgian accountant overseeing matters
- undue confidence being placed in the views of Driesen
- the (as reported by Bowyer himself) lowest budget in the Championship
- an owner who totally screwed up the Aribo contractual situation so we lost him (as we did others before him) for a pittance
- other key players (notably Lyle Taylor) entering their last year of contract
As always, under Duchatelet we are always just one step away from chaos.
Yes, he keeps the club going but he stands to lose a great deal more by going into administration, so let's not afford Duchatelet too much credit for that.
The man has been and continues to be a disaster for our club.
Lot's of us ignored the warnings about RD (me included) because he wasn't 'the spivs' and anyone would be better than them, well he's not and here we are.....
Plenty of worse owners out there and imo the fact he can't afford to put us into admin is great security for us.5 -
Roland is an absolute shite owner end off.
Despite being a successful business man he is totally incompetent when it comes to running a football club.
Sooner he sells the better.6
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