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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Some may say we were only worth 2% of his attention, certainly not up there in terms of his priorities.T_C_E said:
Spend more or spend more wisely?Dazzler21 said:
But is he willing to spend more?Valley27000 said:
£500m? That's less then Roland.Dazzler21 said:
If you're still on about the billions, I think you're going to be upset. Nimer is worth several hundreds of millions. I'll settle for around 500 million I guess. We'd still be competitive in this league with that money.CafcSCP said:
If there’s the sort of money floating around that we think there should be with this lot, then there’s not too many players we’d want that we couldn’t get.soapboxsam said:cafcfan1990 said:
Of course he doesn't. He's selling the club so who would want to carry on paying the bills. He's not going to receive extra money if the sales goes through next week as opposed to today so every penny he spends until it's sold is coming out of that. That's why we should be happy with the delay, it's one final annoyance to that prick.bolloxbolder said:Maybe Roland doesn’t want to pay December salaries. Or have they already been paid by now.
But I don't think this delay is anything other than normal formalities. Enjoy your Christmas and it will be done soon
And there was me thinking that Douchebag was spiteful !
I just want Duchatelet to be History and Charlton to have owners who can afford to pay wages consummate with Championship players who don't have disabled stickers on their cars before they join us.
I personally couldn't do another stint in League 1 and if some of our fans enjoy this impasse then I'm the polar opposite.
It's hard enough getting decent players in the January window without this delay.
just a case of what’s needed to stay up and go heavy in the summer.
Personally, I’d get rid of Kayal and Hemed. Waste of money on wages.
bring Leko back perm if he looks like he could have an impact, but possibly wait for the summer with him.
Get a loan striker and Central Defender.
Pearce and Sarr are struggling as we can all see.
easy to keep shouting what we need but they’re the big positions for me if the central midfield are on their way back.
According to Bowyer, our boys struggled with access to a good surface to play/train on.
Yet the the rugby club have beautiful pitches just over the back, once again I would question Rolands priorities and I don't believe they were the Charlton Athletic football club.
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Wasn't it also said this was the group that wanted to buy newcastle? What's Ashley's asking price 250? No way he would spend halfCAFCsayer said:Still confident the Sheikh is involved... If Nimer is worth 500mill he's not going to spend over a tenth of his wealth, and that's before we talk running costs and signings, on buying a second division football club 7,000km from his home.2 -
This is why I also asked what is the make up of the rest of ESI? The Sheikh could be involved certainly, I don't however believe we'll be as rich as we thought.LTKapal said:
Wasn't it also said this was the group that wanted to buy newcastle? What's Ashley's asking price 250? No way he would spend halfCAFCsayer said:Still confident the Sheikh is involved... If Nimer is worth 500mill he's not going to spend over a tenth of his wealth, and that's before we talk running costs and signings, on buying a second division football club 7,000km from his home.0 -
To spend in Jan 😂Valley27000 said:
£500m? That's less then Roland.Dazzler21 said:
If you're still on about the billions, I think you're going to be upset. Nimer is worth several hundreds of millions. I'll settle for around 500 million I guess. We'd still be competitive in this league with that money.CafcSCP said:
If there’s the sort of money floating around that we think there should be with this lot, then there’s not too many players we’d want that we couldn’t get.soapboxsam said:cafcfan1990 said:
Of course he doesn't. He's selling the club so who would want to carry on paying the bills. He's not going to receive extra money if the sales goes through next week as opposed to today so every penny he spends until it's sold is coming out of that. That's why we should be happy with the delay, it's one final annoyance to that prick.bolloxbolder said:Maybe Roland doesn’t want to pay December salaries. Or have they already been paid by now.
But I don't think this delay is anything other than normal formalities. Enjoy your Christmas and it will be done soon
And there was me thinking that Douchebag was spiteful !
I just want Duchatelet to be History and Charlton to have owners who can afford to pay wages consummate with Championship players who don't have disabled stickers on their cars before they join us.
I personally couldn't do another stint in League 1 and if some of our fans enjoy this impasse then I'm the polar opposite.
It's hard enough getting decent players in the January window without this delay.
just a case of what’s needed to stay up and go heavy in the summer.
Personally, I’d get rid of Kayal and Hemed. Waste of money on wages.
bring Leko back perm if he looks like he could have an impact, but possibly wait for the summer with him.
Get a loan striker and Central Defender.
Pearce and Sarr are struggling as we can all see.
easy to keep shouting what we need but they’re the big positions for me if the central midfield are on their way back.
I’m good with that.
To be honest, 5 million on 3-4 players with Gallens talent would do us quite adequately
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+ getting the contract situations out.CafcSCP said:
To spend in Jan 😂Valley27000 said:
£500m? That's less then Roland.Dazzler21 said:
If you're still on about the billions, I think you're going to be upset. Nimer is worth several hundreds of millions. I'll settle for around 500 million I guess. We'd still be competitive in this league with that money.CafcSCP said:
If there’s the sort of money floating around that we think there should be with this lot, then there’s not too many players we’d want that we couldn’t get.soapboxsam said:cafcfan1990 said:
Of course he doesn't. He's selling the club so who would want to carry on paying the bills. He's not going to receive extra money if the sales goes through next week as opposed to today so every penny he spends until it's sold is coming out of that. That's why we should be happy with the delay, it's one final annoyance to that prick.bolloxbolder said:Maybe Roland doesn’t want to pay December salaries. Or have they already been paid by now.
But I don't think this delay is anything other than normal formalities. Enjoy your Christmas and it will be done soon
And there was me thinking that Douchebag was spiteful !
I just want Duchatelet to be History and Charlton to have owners who can afford to pay wages consummate with Championship players who don't have disabled stickers on their cars before they join us.
I personally couldn't do another stint in League 1 and if some of our fans enjoy this impasse then I'm the polar opposite.
It's hard enough getting decent players in the January window without this delay.
just a case of what’s needed to stay up and go heavy in the summer.
Personally, I’d get rid of Kayal and Hemed. Waste of money on wages.
bring Leko back perm if he looks like he could have an impact, but possibly wait for the summer with him.
Get a loan striker and Central Defender.
Pearce and Sarr are struggling as we can all see.
easy to keep shouting what we need but they’re the big positions for me if the central midfield are on their way back.
I’m good with that.
To be honest, 5 million on 3-4 players with Gallens talent would do us quite adequately1 -
I’m not expecting us to be the next big thing.Dazzler21 said:
If you're still on about the billions, I think you're going to be upset. Nimer is worth several hundreds of millions. I'll settle for around 500 million I guess. We'd still be competitive in this league with that money.CafcSCP said:
If there’s the sort of money floating around that we think there should be with this lot, then there’s not too many players we’d want that we couldn’t get.soapboxsam said:cafcfan1990 said:
Of course he doesn't. He's selling the club so who would want to carry on paying the bills. He's not going to receive extra money if the sales goes through next week as opposed to today so every penny he spends until it's sold is coming out of that. That's why we should be happy with the delay, it's one final annoyance to that prick.bolloxbolder said:Maybe Roland doesn’t want to pay December salaries. Or have they already been paid by now.
But I don't think this delay is anything other than normal formalities. Enjoy your Christmas and it will be done soon
And there was me thinking that Douchebag was spiteful !
I just want Duchatelet to be History and Charlton to have owners who can afford to pay wages consummate with Championship players who don't have disabled stickers on their cars before they join us.
I personally couldn't do another stint in League 1 and if some of our fans enjoy this impasse then I'm the polar opposite.
It's hard enough getting decent players in the January window without this delay.
just a case of what’s needed to stay up and go heavy in the summer.
Personally, I’d get rid of Kayal and Hemed. Waste of money on wages.
bring Leko back perm if he looks like he could have an impact, but possibly wait for the summer with him.
Get a loan striker and Central Defender.
Pearce and Sarr are struggling as we can all see.
easy to keep shouting what we need but they’re the big positions for me if the central midfield are on their way back.
I am however expecting them to support the management team with enough to keep us up.
in the summer I’d expect investment to make us a realistic playoff contender.
Thats all I’d ask2 -
If I was worth £500 million, I’m not sure if I would have a boss .8
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If Nimer is personally worth £500 million as suggested above then buying Charlton and getting the team promoted to the PL which I presume is the plan will cost him around 20% of his wealth. That’s a big chunk to take on.My guess is the EFL are questioning the source of funding because it’s not clear it’s all coming directly and solely from TN. If that’s true and it’s a guess by the way then it does throw up the question as to who else is financing the deal.0
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You would if your boss was the man that made you worth £500mBlackheathboy said:If I was worth £500 million, I’m not sure if I would have a boss .6 -
I agree it’s not fully transparent but I don’t get the same negativity from the articles.lancashire lad said:Having read the articles about ESi and their friends in the new edition of VoTV I think it might be out of the previous pan and into the fire, keep digging EFL!
Bottom line, we just don’t know.2 - Sponsored links:
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I’m also unclear as to where this £500 million actually comes from. The only figure I have seen printed is several hundred million. That implies to me more in the region of 2 - 300 million. Which makes a significantly bigger impact on his total wealth.0
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Less of this waiting for evidence and actual deeds please @stonemusestonemuse said:
I agree it’s not fully transparent but I don’t get the same negativity from the articles.lancashire lad said:Having read the articles about ESi and their friends in the new edition of VoTV I think it might be out of the previous pan and into the fire, keep digging EFL!
Bottom line, we just don’t know.
Please jump to a conclusion, preferably extreme and based on very little.11 -
Several hundred million would surely be more than 300 Million, it implies more like 7-800ShootersHillGuru said:I’m also unclear as to where this £500 million actually comes from. The only figure I have seen printed is several hundred million. That implies to me more in the region of 2 - 300 million. Which makes a significantly bigger impact on his total wealth.
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He is the chairman of the ADBD, this is a business he runs for Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan.Blackheathboy said:If I was worth £500 million, I’m not sure if I would have a boss .
That business then funds nearly 60 other companies, i suspect we will see some of these involved in sponsorship in some way with Charlton in the future.
In my opinion they are not in this to just play at it, they will mean business and will invest to ensure we are competitive.They wont want to be poor relations of other middle east invested clubs. I would expect when it is approved that we will see intent straight away.
Have a Merry Christmas all
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Bugger. Beer too warm and banned from using up space in the fridge.
Made up a nice stand out of wood that holds one bottle nice and safe and put it just outside the back door. Polished the bottle opener so ready to go again.
Bloody take over.5 -
Not sure 2-3 is several - nearer 6-7 I would guess.ShootersHillGuru said:I’m also unclear as to where this £500 million actually comes from. The only figure I have seen printed is several hundred million. That implies to me more in the region of 2 - 300 million. Which makes a significantly bigger impact on his total wealth.
Maybe he's got a Christmas bonus from his boss! (who I still think is involved).2 -
Agree when has several ever been a few?bobmunro said:
Not sure 2-3 is several - nearer 6-7 I would guess.ShootersHillGuru said:I’m also unclear as to where this £500 million actually comes from. The only figure I have seen printed is several hundred million. That implies to me more in the region of 2 - 300 million. Which makes a significantly bigger impact on his total wealth.
Maybe he's got a Christmas bonus from his boss! (who I still think is involved).
I used £500m as a conservative number. I usually expect 6 or 7 when someone says several.1 -
My bad I think. I’ve always taken several as 2-3 but it seems I’m wrong. At least it’s better than I thought not worse.0
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@ShootersHillGuru, a couple is two, a few is three so more than three but probably in the 4 -7 range (although six would be half a dozen).2
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And five would be a bunch of 👊😜.Cordoban Addick said:@ShootersHillGuru, a couple is two, a few is three so more than three but probably in the 4 -7 range (although six would be half a dozen).1 - Sponsored links:
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Nap hand!RedChaser said:
And five would be a bunch of 👊😜.Cordoban Addick said:@ShootersHillGuru, a couple is two, a few is three so more than three but probably in the 4 -7 range (although six would be half a dozen).1 -
A couple is 2-3 a few is 4-6 and several is 7-91
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Semantics was obviously the next step for this thread. Although,saying that, it is pretty much all it has been1
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I really can’t believe that Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan isn’t involved. From my (albeit limited) understanding, Nimer is purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD, which is bankrolled by the Sheikh. If this was a side business for Nimer, I can’t see why they would mention ADBD in the club statement, or why the CEO of ADBD (Jonathan Heller) would be a director at the club.
Nimer doesn’t seem stupid enough to waste a significant portion of his own wealth on a second-tier football club on the other side of the planet. In my opinion, the Sheikh is directly involved in this deal and the majority of the investment will be coming from ADBD, which is essentially the Sheikh’s bank account.
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Just a thought - if possible leave it outside in the garden?killerandflash said:I prefer my real ale to be chilled as otherwise it can get too lively when poured (especially bottle conditioned). Outside this time of year tends to be cool enough (especially as the fridge is too full with turkey etc anyway) but no way can it be drunk at room temperatures, especially in a centrally heated house0 -
No, Nimer is not purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD - if he were then Sheikh Saeed would be the owner of ESI (the Sheik owns ADBD), and we know that Nimer is the majority shareholder of ESI.ElliotCAFC said:I really can’t believe that Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan isn’t involved. From my (albeit limited) understanding, Nimer is purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD, which is bankrolled by the Sheikh. If this was a side business for Nimer, I can’t see why they would mention ADBD in the club statement, or why the CEO of ADBD (Jonathan Heller) would be a director at the club.
Nimer doesn’t seem stupid enough to waste a significant portion of his own wealth on a second-tier football club on the other side of the planet. In my opinion, the Sheikh is directly involved in this deal and the majority of the investment will be coming from ADBD, which is essentially the Sheikh’s bank account.
ADBD was mentioned on the basis of who these people are, not who they represent.
That said, I still have an inkling that the Sheikh is somehow involved.7 -
That is where the bottle is now, frost not predicted but sure to be below the 11c I am looking for.addick19 said:
Just a thought - if possible leave it outside in the garden?killerandflash said:I prefer my real ale to be chilled as otherwise it can get too lively when poured (especially bottle conditioned). Outside this time of year tends to be cool enough (especially as the fridge is too full with turkey etc anyway) but no way can it be drunk at room temperatures, especially in a centrally heated house
Just had a nasty thought that I have been saving it for the takeover for so long it may be out of date! I think I will move it to the conservatory.0
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