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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Scoham said:
    Very well written piece, especially the below sentence. 

    “A century-old football club is a cultural artefact, not a business, and the fans are its curators, not its customers”
    Excellent article. 
  • Did we really lose several thousand season ticket holders under his dictatorship? 

    Naturally most of these will return now he has gone, compounded with the new influx of support generated during the playoffs the matchday support base should rise considerably, therefore leaving the overall fan base quite healthy indeed.

    Be interesting to see the turnout next week 
    20k minimum.
  • edited January 2020
    Did we really lose several thousand season ticket holders under his dictatorship? 

    Naturally most of these will return now he has gone, compounded with the new influx of support generated during the playoffs the matchday support base should rise considerably, therefore leaving the overall fan base quite healthy indeed.

    Be interesting to see the turnout next week 
    20k minimum.
    So 17k home fans? I'm not so sure. Might be a bit more gradual I reckon. 
  • Uboat said:
    Did we really lose several thousand season ticket holders under his dictatorship? 

    Naturally most of these will return now he has gone, compounded with the new influx of support generated during the playoffs the matchday support base should rise considerably, therefore leaving the overall fan base quite healthy indeed.

    Be interesting to see the turnout next week 
    20k minimum.
    So 17k home fans? I'm not so sure. Might be a bit more gradual I reckon. 
    We have been having gates of 17k plus recently so hopefully my figure is not too optimistic.

    I am more interested in how our gates pan out for the future.
  • Scoham said:
    That is bloody good ... well-written and shows an understanding of the fans that are the heartbeat of a club. 
  • stonemuse said:
    Scoham said:
    That is bloody good ... well-written and shows an understanding of the fans that are the heartbeat of a club. 
    All except Wednesday night's loss at Swansea.
  • edited January 2020
    Did we really lose several thousand season ticket holders under his dictatorship? 

    Naturally most of these will return now he has gone, compounded with the new influx of support generated during the playoffs the matchday support base should rise considerably, therefore leaving the overall fan base quite healthy indeed.

    Be interesting to see the turnout next week 
    Yes, though some have since returned.


  • edited January 2020
    When you consider that most of the clubs above us have been in the Prem in recent years, its not bad!


  • Not sure if this has been posted already, but an interesting thread I’ve seen on Twitter: https://twitter.com/prof_chadwick/status/1202277747890016256
  • edited January 2020
    Our average home attendance in 1997/98 was 13,275 - and we got promoted! (I accept that the capacity then was around 16,000).

    If we are averaging 17,322 so far this season then that would likely indicate our core support has grown in that time. Of course it probably follows that some of the new fans in the Premier League years have stayed with us (which is great of course) but I would expect us to now average 20k+ in the Championship with the returners taken into account, and should we get promotion to the Premier League then a sell-out most if not all games with likely less 'tourists' than we got in the prem years.

    From a fan numbers perspective I believe we are as healthy as we've been for a long time.


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  • Uboat said:
    Did we really lose several thousand season ticket holders under his dictatorship? 

    Naturally most of these will return now he has gone, compounded with the new influx of support generated during the playoffs the matchday support base should rise considerably, therefore leaving the overall fan base quite healthy indeed.

    Be interesting to see the turnout next week 
    20k minimum.
    So 17k home fans? I'm not so sure. Might be a bit more gradual I reckon. 
    Got tickets last night. It’ll be the first league game I will have seen at the Valley since Feb 2015 watching Tony Watt tearing SCP’s Huddersfield apart. I’ve only been back for the playoffs semis. Six of us going, all not gone for at least a couple of years because of RD. I’ve been waiting for this day for so long and I’m sure there’s many more like us. 20k might not be that unrealistic.
    Enjoy the day out! 
  • Without trawling through the thread, do we Actually know what these guys net worth is etc? 
  • Uboat said:
    Did we really lose several thousand season ticket holders under his dictatorship? 

    Naturally most of these will return now he has gone, compounded with the new influx of support generated during the playoffs the matchday support base should rise considerably, therefore leaving the overall fan base quite healthy indeed.

    Be interesting to see the turnout next week 
    20k minimum.
    So 17k home fans? I'm not so sure. Might be a bit more gradual I reckon. 
    We have been having gates of 17k plus recently so hopefully my figure is not too optimistic.

    17,000? Hmmm, not too many of those to be fair.
  • Not sure if this has been posted already, but an interesting thread I’ve seen on Twitter: https://twitter.com/prof_chadwick/status/1202277747890016256
    I’d like to understand the players more for this to be true. If it’s a political play, then someone other than HE would be the ultimate backer. HE doesn’t, at least on the surface, appear to fit the bill for this. If this is the case, then someone higher up is driving this, even if they have no direct link to either the ownership or funding. 


  • Not sure if this has been posted already, but an interesting thread I’ve seen on Twitter: https://twitter.com/prof_chadwick/status/1202277747890016256
    That is a fascinating concept ... and makes a lot of sense. 
  • Apologies if this has been posted already. I’ve not got through the last 509 posts. Good read in the Independent. 

  • edited January 2020
    Apologies if this has been posted already. I’ve not got through the last 509 posts. Good read in the Independent. 

    It has been posted. On this and the last page ;)
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  • So when does Baton 2010 change hands? Still showing as owned by the Belgium cancer 
  • 2121 said:
    Without trawling through the thread, do we Actually know what these guys net worth is etc? 
    Start trawling now and at least you will find out the Net value of fish.
  • stonemuse said:
    Not sure if this has been posted already, but an interesting thread I’ve seen on Twitter: https://twitter.com/prof_chadwick/status/1202277747890016256
    That is a fascinating concept ... and makes a lot of sense. 
    Perhaps the beneficial owner behind MS (there has got to be one, surely ?) is a Chinese interest in Thames Gateway ?
  • From the Twitter feed:

    http://www.ejinsight.com/20191125-the-rentier-states-ruling-football/

    Interesting.

    I'm trying to find the video from a few years ago of Matt Syed talking on sky about why these states get involved in major sports, another fascinating insight.
  • stonemuse said:
    From the Twitter feed:

    http://www.ejinsight.com/20191125-the-rentier-states-ruling-football/

    Interesting.

    I'm trying to find the video from a few years ago of Matt Syed talking on sky about why these states get involved in major sports, another fascinating insight.
    As I mentioned above, this is fascinating ... and very intriguing ... could very well make sense of the entire takeover.

     A club in Royal Greenwich with all the Peninsula development, growing infrastructure and housing ... definitely an all-round good ‘rentier’ investment ... Manchester has certainly done well out of their Middle East connections. 
    It (sort of) makes sense. Why else take a risk on buying Charlton, of all football clubs? 
  • I remember when this first came out someone saying it'll all be a property play - seems to be the case. Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
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