The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Fanny?ValleyGary said:
Theres a few people on here that'll know the answer to that.cafcdave123 said:
why? has he got a massive cock?Pedro45 said:
Fb really is the pits though, with lots of "my dick is bigger than yours" all the time... Most of them are just jealous of Airman Brown.Henry Irving said:Without igniting inter-site warfare what is the stance on SE7 Valiantly and elsewhere about Duchatelet now?
Facebook seems to have a sizable anti CARD minority but the same people are anti- Duchatelet.3 -
Changing the subject.
The whole club from top to bottom including the fan base is in disarray and at pretty much an all time low with one notable exception.
Why we should expect the players to perform outside of the general malaise I don’t know.
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Because they are professionals and are paid good sums of money. When I used to play non league football for no money, I always gave 100 per cent, no matter what the circumstances were. I had pride in my own performance.ShootersHillGuru said:Changing the subject.
The whole club from top to bottom including the fan base is in disarray and at pretty much an all time low with one notable exception.
Why we should expect the players to perform outside of the general malaise I don’t know.
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I've never 100% understood this and I also think it's very unrealistic.dickplumb said:
Because they are professionals and are paid good sums of money. When I used to play non league football for no money, I always gave 100 per cent, no matter what the circumstances were. I had pride in my own performance.ShootersHillGuru said:Changing the subject.
The whole club from top to bottom including the fan base is in disarray and at pretty much an all time low with one notable exception.
Why we should expect the players to perform outside of the general malaise I don’t know.
Whether we like it or not, for many footballers - playing football is just a job. Can we honestly say that that all of us give 100% in our jobs all of the time? Maybe it's because they are doing something that we would all love to do (and the salaries) that our mindset changes slightly.
They are still human, they are still affected by family situations, relationship challenges, media intrusion and a very public assessment of their performance - we can't expect 100% effort all of the time.
#anothertangent
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Players are human, but the takeover delay really shouldn't make that much difference to them. Especially this season when there have been no protests AND the players have been well supported (in terms of singing) home and away. Our crowds may be down, but they're still the fourth highest in the division, and higher than Wigan's for example. The majority of the players won't be that bothered at the moment that we have no CEO or Finance Director either.WSS said:
I've never 100% understood this and I also think it's very unrealistic.dickplumb said:
Because they are professionals and are paid good sums of money. When I used to play non league football for no money, I always gave 100 per cent, no matter what the circumstances were. I had pride in my own performance.ShootersHillGuru said:Changing the subject.
The whole club from top to bottom including the fan base is in disarray and at pretty much an all time low with one notable exception.
Why we should expect the players to perform outside of the general malaise I don’t know.
Whether we like it or not, for many footballers - playing football is just a job. Can we honestly say that that all of us give 100% in our jobs all of the time? Maybe it's because they are doing something that we would all love to do (and the salaries) that our mindset changes slightly.
They are still human, they are still affected by family situations, relationship challenges, media intrusion and a very public assessment of their performance - we can't expect 100% effort all of the time.
#anothertangent
For fans, the club is for life. For most players, it's a job.0 -
Also, they may be professional footballers who are highly trained but so are the opposing teams. Any slight difference in temperament can make a difference in performance levels3
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I replied to Jason Pearce’s tweet the other day about “we go again “ guff
Told him that if I performed as inconsistently in my job as our squad, I wouldn’t be in it very long, yes, none of us give 100% every day, but their levels are off the scale at times7 -
The issue for them is the future, and for those in and out of contract they will want to know if the club has ambition, who the manager will be, who they'll be playing with, etc. I wouldn't blame any of them if their attention is beyond Charlton, just as it would be for any of us if our companies were undergoing am uncertain takeover.killerandflash said:
Players are human, but the takeover delay really shouldn't make that much difference to them. Especially this season when there have been no protests AND the players have been well supported (in terms of singing) home and away. Our crowds may be down, but they're still the fourth highest in the division, and higher than Wigan's for example. The majority of the players won't be that bothered at the moment that we have no CEO or Finance Director either.WSS said:
I've never 100% understood this and I also think it's very unrealistic.dickplumb said:
Because they are professionals and are paid good sums of money. When I used to play non league football for no money, I always gave 100 per cent, no matter what the circumstances were. I had pride in my own performance.ShootersHillGuru said:Changing the subject.
The whole club from top to bottom including the fan base is in disarray and at pretty much an all time low with one notable exception.
Why we should expect the players to perform outside of the general malaise I don’t know.
Whether we like it or not, for many footballers - playing football is just a job. Can we honestly say that that all of us give 100% in our jobs all of the time? Maybe it's because they are doing something that we would all love to do (and the salaries) that our mindset changes slightly.
They are still human, they are still affected by family situations, relationship challenges, media intrusion and a very public assessment of their performance - we can't expect 100% effort all of the time.
#anothertangent
For fans, the club is for life. For most players, it's a job.
The difference to the players between another season of RD's apathy and one with new owners impatiently looking to get up through the divisions is immeasurable, I'd have thought.
And right now, who do they go to at the club to discuss the details of their concerns? The pie man?1 -
I'm expecting 100% effort and concentration for a couple of hours a week, while they are in front of their public - I dare say there is downtime during working hours on non-match days, and do not begrudge them that provided they do the necessary training.WSS said:
I've never 100% understood this and I also think it's very unrealistic.dickplumb said:
Because they are professionals and are paid good sums of money. When I used to play non league football for no money, I always gave 100 per cent, no matter what the circumstances were. I had pride in my own performance.ShootersHillGuru said:Changing the subject.
The whole club from top to bottom including the fan base is in disarray and at pretty much an all time low with one notable exception.
Why we should expect the players to perform outside of the general malaise I don’t know.
Whether we like it or not, for many footballers - playing football is just a job. Can we honestly say that that all of us give 100% in our jobs all of the time? Maybe it's because they are doing something that we would all love to do (and the salaries) that our mindset changes slightly.
They are still human, they are still affected by family situations, relationship challenges, media intrusion and a very public assessment of their performance - we can't expect 100% effort all of the time.
#anothertangent3 -
Tweeting abuse to players after a game is one of the cringest things a fan can do.DA9 said:I replied to Jason Pearce’s tweet the other day about “we go again “ guff
Told him that if I performed as inconsistently in my job as our squad, I wouldn’t be in it very long, yes, none of us give 100% every day, but their levels are off the scale at times18 -
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I know, let me know who abused him and I’ll block themCovered_End_Lad said:
Tweeting abuse to players after a game is one of the cringest things a fan can do.DA9 said:I replied to Jason Pearce’s tweet the other day about “we go again “ guff
Told him that if I performed as inconsistently in my job as our squad, I wouldn’t be in it very long, yes, none of us give 100% every day, but their levels are off the scale at times
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I would like to say that Charlton Life is evidence of the fact that we do not all put 100% into our jobs...WSS said:
I've never 100% understood this and I also think it's very unrealistic.dickplumb said:
Because they are professionals and are paid good sums of money. When I used to play non league football for no money, I always gave 100 per cent, no matter what the circumstances were. I had pride in my own performance.ShootersHillGuru said:Changing the subject.
The whole club from top to bottom including the fan base is in disarray and at pretty much an all time low with one notable exception.
Why we should expect the players to perform outside of the general malaise I don’t know.
Whether we like it or not, for many footballers - playing football is just a job. Can we honestly say that that all of us give 100% in our jobs all of the time? Maybe it's because they are doing something that we would all love to do (and the salaries) that our mindset changes slightly.
They are still human, they are still affected by family situations, relationship challenges, media intrusion and a very public assessment of their performance - we can't expect 100% effort all of the time.
#anothertangent
Except me...
10% Monday
25% Tuesday
25% Wednesday
30% Thursday
10% Friday20 -
Players these days in lower division clubs have short contracts, they're used to changes of clubs, of managers being sacked etcrikofold said:
The issue for them is the future, and for those in and out of contract they will want to know if the club has ambition, who the manager will be, who they'll be playing with, etc. I wouldn't blame any of them if their attention is beyond Charlton, just as it would be for any of us if our companies were undergoing am uncertain takeover.killerandflash said:
Players are human, but the takeover delay really shouldn't make that much difference to them. Especially this season when there have been no protests AND the players have been well supported (in terms of singing) home and away. Our crowds may be down, but they're still the fourth highest in the division, and higher than Wigan's for example. The majority of the players won't be that bothered at the moment that we have no CEO or Finance Director either.WSS said:
I've never 100% understood this and I also think it's very unrealistic.dickplumb said:
Because they are professionals and are paid good sums of money. When I used to play non league football for no money, I always gave 100 per cent, no matter what the circumstances were. I had pride in my own performance.ShootersHillGuru said:Changing the subject.
The whole club from top to bottom including the fan base is in disarray and at pretty much an all time low with one notable exception.
Why we should expect the players to perform outside of the general malaise I don’t know.
Whether we like it or not, for many footballers - playing football is just a job. Can we honestly say that that all of us give 100% in our jobs all of the time? Maybe it's because they are doing something that we would all love to do (and the salaries) that our mindset changes slightly.
They are still human, they are still affected by family situations, relationship challenges, media intrusion and a very public assessment of their performance - we can't expect 100% effort all of the time.
#anothertangent
For fans, the club is for life. For most players, it's a job.
The difference to the players between another season of RD's apathy and one with new owners impatiently looking to get up through the divisions is immeasurable, I'd have thought.
And right now, who do they go to at the club to discuss the details of their concerns? The pie man?
The difference between players and us, is that they have scouts watching them. I could be great at my job, but rival companies wouldn't know. Play well for us on Saturday, a watching scout for another club might make a bid
Newcastle have been in limbo all season, with a hated owner and a takeover breaking down, but Rafa has still got them giving 100%.4 -
Fan in comparing his job to that of a professional footballers shock.DA9 said:I replied to Jason Pearce’s tweet the other day about “we go again “ guff
Told him that if I performed as inconsistently in my job as our squad, I wouldn’t be in it very long, yes, none of us give 100% every day, but their levels are off the scale at times
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They have the motivation of playing and staying in the Premier League. Not quite the same as being lied to season after season as to the ambition of a league one club.killerandflash said:
Players these days in lower division clubs have short contracts, they're used to changes of clubs, of managers being sacked etcrikofold said:
The issue for them is the future, and for those in and out of contract they will want to know if the club has ambition, who the manager will be, who they'll be playing with, etc. I wouldn't blame any of them if their attention is beyond Charlton, just as it would be for any of us if our companies were undergoing am uncertain takeover.killerandflash said:
Players are human, but the takeover delay really shouldn't make that much difference to them. Especially this season when there have been no protests AND the players have been well supported (in terms of singing) home and away. Our crowds may be down, but they're still the fourth highest in the division, and higher than Wigan's for example. The majority of the players won't be that bothered at the moment that we have no CEO or Finance Director either.WSS said:
I've never 100% understood this and I also think it's very unrealistic.dickplumb said:
Because they are professionals and are paid good sums of money. When I used to play non league football for no money, I always gave 100 per cent, no matter what the circumstances were. I had pride in my own performance.ShootersHillGuru said:Changing the subject.
The whole club from top to bottom including the fan base is in disarray and at pretty much an all time low with one notable exception.
Why we should expect the players to perform outside of the general malaise I don’t know.
Whether we like it or not, for many footballers - playing football is just a job. Can we honestly say that that all of us give 100% in our jobs all of the time? Maybe it's because they are doing something that we would all love to do (and the salaries) that our mindset changes slightly.
They are still human, they are still affected by family situations, relationship challenges, media intrusion and a very public assessment of their performance - we can't expect 100% effort all of the time.
#anothertangent
For fans, the club is for life. For most players, it's a job.
The difference to the players between another season of RD's apathy and one with new owners impatiently looking to get up through the divisions is immeasurable, I'd have thought.
And right now, who do they go to at the club to discuss the details of their concerns? The pie man?
The difference between players and us, is that they have scouts watching them. I could be great at my job, but rival companies wouldn't know. Play well for us on Saturday, a watching scout for another club might make a bid
Newcastle have been in limbo all season, with a hated owner and a takeover breaking down, but Rafa has still got them giving 100%.2 -
I work harderFishCostaFortune said:
Fan in comparing his job to that of a professional footballers shock.DA9 said:I replied to Jason Pearce’s tweet the other day about “we go again “ guff
Told him that if I performed as inconsistently in my job as our squad, I wouldn’t be in it very long, yes, none of us give 100% every day, but their levels are off the scale at times0 -
How do you quantify that?DA9 said:
I work harderFishCostaFortune said:
Fan in comparing his job to that of a professional footballers shock.DA9 said:I replied to Jason Pearce’s tweet the other day about “we go again “ guff
Told him that if I performed as inconsistently in my job as our squad, I wouldn’t be in it very long, yes, none of us give 100% every day, but their levels are off the scale at times
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rikofold said:
They have the motivation of playing and staying in the Premier League. Not quite the same as being lied to season after season as to the ambition of a league one club.killerandflash said:
Players these days in lower division clubs have short contracts, they're used to changes of clubs, of managers being sacked etcrikofold said:
The issue for them is the future, and for those in and out of contract they will want to know if the club has ambition, who the manager will be, who they'll be playing with, etc. I wouldn't blame any of them if their attention is beyond Charlton, just as it would be for any of us if our companies were undergoing am uncertain takeover.killerandflash said:
Players are human, but the takeover delay really shouldn't make that much difference to them. Especially this season when there have been no protests AND the players have been well supported (in terms of singing) home and away. Our crowds may be down, but they're still the fourth highest in the division, and higher than Wigan's for example. The majority of the players won't be that bothered at the moment that we have no CEO or Finance Director either.WSS said:
I've never 100% understood this and I also think it's very unrealistic.dickplumb said:
Because they are professionals and are paid good sums of money. When I used to play non league football for no money, I always gave 100 per cent, no matter what the circumstances were. I had pride in my own performance.ShootersHillGuru said:Changing the subject.
The whole club from top to bottom including the fan base is in disarray and at pretty much an all time low with one notable exception.
Why we should expect the players to perform outside of the general malaise I don’t know.
Whether we like it or not, for many footballers - playing football is just a job. Can we honestly say that that all of us give 100% in our jobs all of the time? Maybe it's because they are doing something that we would all love to do (and the salaries) that our mindset changes slightly.
They are still human, they are still affected by family situations, relationship challenges, media intrusion and a very public assessment of their performance - we can't expect 100% effort all of the time.
#anothertangent
For fans, the club is for life. For most players, it's a job.
The difference to the players between another season of RD's apathy and one with new owners impatiently looking to get up through the divisions is immeasurable, I'd have thought.
And right now, who do they go to at the club to discuss the details of their concerns? The pie man?
The difference between players and us, is that they have scouts watching them. I could be great at my job, but rival companies wouldn't know. Play well for us on Saturday, a watching scout for another club might make a bid
Newcastle have been in limbo all season, with a hated owner and a takeover breaking down, but Rafa has still got them giving 100%.
Surely the only lie about ambition that would affect a player is the signing of other better players to achieve promotion, we can all argue that point, but, as you are paid by the club and are a professional you should perform regardless, I may think others in my
Company are worse than me, but it doesn’t stop me performing my job well and having personal professional standards c
By knowing my own efforts and personal standards each week and then watching our first team, and I reckon over the season I put in more effort in my job than some of our squad do in theirsFishCostaFortune said:
How do you quantify that?DA9 said:
I work harderFishCostaFortune said:
Fan in comparing his job to that of a professional footballers shock.DA9 said:I replied to Jason Pearce’s tweet the other day about “we go again “ guff
Told him that if I performed as inconsistently in my job as our squad, I wouldn’t be in it very long, yes, none of us give 100% every day, but their levels are off the scale at times2 -
Most of those employed on a full time basis in this country do anywhere between 30-40 hours a week.FishCostaFortune said:
How do you quantify that?DA9 said:
I work harderFishCostaFortune said:
Fan in comparing his job to that of a professional footballers shock.DA9 said:I replied to Jason Pearce’s tweet the other day about “we go again “ guff
Told him that if I performed as inconsistently in my job as our squad, I wouldn’t be in it very long, yes, none of us give 100% every day, but their levels are off the scale at times
Footballers do a few hours on the training pitch each day and then 90 minutes on a Saturday.
You do the math.
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Maths26
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The art to working is making your employers/customers think you are giving 100%+, even when you are giving much less.8
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I always gave 100 per cent at work as well.0
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Do you work full time Dick?dickplumb said:I always gave 100 per cent at work as well.
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I retired when I was 55. I worked in the City most of my life. The Company went into Administration when I was 53 and I was paid by the Administrator and the Company to help sort out their affairs. I always gave 100 per cent though.2
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I'm glad I distracted everyone from the fact that there is no imminent takeover.9
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Thank you @oohaahmortimerDazzler21 said:
I would like to say that Charlton Life is evidence of the fact that we do not all put 100% into our jobs...WSS said:
I've never 100% understood this and I also think it's very unrealistic.dickplumb said:
Because they are professionals and are paid good sums of money. When I used to play non league football for no money, I always gave 100 per cent, no matter what the circumstances were. I had pride in my own performance.ShootersHillGuru said:Changing the subject.
The whole club from top to bottom including the fan base is in disarray and at pretty much an all time low with one notable exception.
Why we should expect the players to perform outside of the general malaise I don’t know.
Whether we like it or not, for many footballers - playing football is just a job. Can we honestly say that that all of us give 100% in our jobs all of the time? Maybe it's because they are doing something that we would all love to do (and the salaries) that our mindset changes slightly.
They are still human, they are still affected by family situations, relationship challenges, media intrusion and a very public assessment of their performance - we can't expect 100% effort all of the time.
#anothertangent
Except me...
10% Monday
25% Tuesday
25% Wednesday
30% Thursday
10% Friday6 -
You gave 100% yet the company failed.dickplumb said:I retired when I was 55. I worked in the City most of my life. The Company went into Administration when I was 53 and I was paid by the Administrator and the Company to help sort out their affairs. I always gave 100 per cent though.
Can somebody help me out with an analogy here ?
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Well, you see, it's like selling a house...ShootersHillGuru said:
You gave 100% yet the company failed.dickplumb said:I retired when I was 55. I worked in the City most of my life. The Company went into Administration when I was 53 and I was paid by the Administrator and the Company to help sort out their affairs. I always gave 100 per cent though.
Can somebody help me out with an analogy here ?29 -
Umm Simon Church? He always gave 100% but was shit.ShootersHillGuru said:
You gave 100% yet the company failed.dickplumb said:I retired when I was 55. I worked in the City most of my life. The Company went into Administration when I was 53 and I was paid by the Administrator and the Company to help sort out their affairs. I always gave 100 per cent though.
Can somebody help me out with an analogy here ?2
