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The General Election - June 8th 2017

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  • Got home to see the local conservatives have dropped some electioneering material through the door today, I thought campaigning was suspended?! Absolutely shameful in my opinion.
  • Got home to see the local conservatives have dropped some electioneering material through the door today, I thought campaigning was suspended?! Absolutely shameful in my opinion.

    I think local campaigning was allow, national restarts tomorrow.
  • Crass theory doing the rounds from the Loony Left that May has risen the threat level in order to further her cause with regards to the GE


  • Looks like old May might because me a cereal u turner.
  • Got home to see the local conservatives have dropped some electioneering material through the door today, I thought campaigning was suspended?! Absolutely shameful in my opinion.

    I think local campaigning was allow, national restarts tomorrow.
    It was all campaigning, local campaigning and national.
  • Unfortunately for the Tories they're finding out that providing public services actually costs the government money.
  • Got home to see the local conservatives have dropped some electioneering material through the door today, I thought campaigning was suspended?! Absolutely shameful in my opinion.

    I think local campaigning was allow, national restarts tomorrow.
    It was all campaigning, local campaigning and national.
    Heard on the BBC news on the radio, that local started today & national tomorrow.
  • Labour local was suspended today as well, seemed to be the right thing to do if the national campaigning was suspended.
  • Got home to see the local conservatives have dropped some electioneering material through the door today, I thought campaigning was suspended?! Absolutely shameful in my opinion.

    Nothing else to complain about then. I expect things will be back to normal tomorrow so you can then start
    cabbles said:

    Unfortunately for the Tories they're finding out that providing public services actually costs the government money.

    Better tell Corbyn that then - he thinks money grows on trees & you can spend it like water.
  • Got home to see the local conservatives have dropped some electioneering material through the door today, I thought campaigning was suspended?! Absolutely shameful in my opinion.

    I think local campaigning was allow, national restarts tomorrow.
    It was all campaigning, local campaigning and national.
    Heard on the BBC news on the radio, that local started today & national tomorrow.
    Listening to Radio 4 on the way home they explained that local campaigning restarts tomorrow, national on Friday. Except for UKIP who are launching their manifesto tomorrow.

    bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40026416
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  • Got home to see the local conservatives have dropped some electioneering material through the door today, I thought campaigning was suspended?! Absolutely shameful in my opinion.

    Nothing else to complain about then. I expect things will be back to normal tomorrow so you can then start
    cabbles said:

    Unfortunately for the Tories they're finding out that providing public services actually costs the government money.

    Better tell Corbyn that then - he thinks money grows on trees & you can spend it like water.
    So you think it's alright then?
  • A fanatic will deny that their lot have done anything wrong, or look for excuses
  • Teachers will probably get in early and provide the breakfasts out of their own pocket for their children.
    Then the Tories will be able to say that teachers do a wonderful job.
    If you think that teachers providing stuff for the kids will not happen, it's happened since the beginning of schooling, the Tories will make it a strong and stable initiative, and there will be an award of a tin medal for the 'teacher of the year' whose breakfasts are the best ones.
  • seth plum said:

    Teachers will probably get in early and provide the breakfasts out of their own pocket for their children.
    Then the Tories will be able to say that teachers do a wonderful job.
    If you think that teachers providing stuff for the kids will not happen, it's happened since the beginning of schooling, the Tories will make it a strong and stable initiative, and there will be an award of a tin medal for the 'teacher of the year' whose breakfasts are the best ones.

    I've always thought a government under Tory rule was a lot like the film 'The running man' with Schwarzenegger.

    "Here are our previous winners"

    Cut to shots of contestants on holiday prize, then it becomes clear previous winners were actually dead....

    The Tory government would run a similar public services campaign

    Here are some of our best and brightest teachers. Turns out teachers featured left the profession years ago
  • seth plum said:

    Teachers will probably get in early and provide the breakfasts out of their own pocket for their children.
    Then the Tories will be able to say that teachers do a wonderful job.
    If you think that teachers providing stuff for the kids will not happen, it's happened since the beginning of schooling, the Tories will make it a strong and stable initiative, and there will be an award of a tin medal for the 'teacher of the year' whose breakfasts are the best ones.

    "It's a good job there are food banks." Copyright. G Osborne.
  • Crass theory doing the rounds from the Loony Left that May has risen the threat level in order to further her cause with regards to the GE

    It's not beyond the realms of possibility.
  • Got home to see the local conservatives have dropped some electioneering material through the door today, I thought campaigning was suspended?! Absolutely shameful in my opinion.

    Nothing else to complain about then. I expect things will be back to normal tomorrow so you can then start
    cabbles said:

    Unfortunately for the Tories they're finding out that providing public services actually costs the government money.

    Better tell Corbyn that then - he thinks money grows on trees & you can spend it like water.
    Golfie do you deliberately ignore my previous posts? This conservative regime has borrowed more than all previous governments combined in the history of Britain. Corbyn has yet to spend a cent of UK coffers.
    True but are you suggesting Corbyn wouldn't spend if elected?

    If the answer to that is 'no' then how would he raise the finances to fund his manifesto?
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  • colthe3rd said:

    Crass theory doing the rounds from the Loony Left that May has risen the threat level in order to further her cause with regards to the GE

    It's not beyond the realms of possibility.
    Oh come on. I know I have a reputation for being a rabid leftie on here, but even I don't think that. If they'd just upped the threat level without this happening, that might be one thing, but in the current circumstances, it's hardly surprising.
  • The number of police officers in England and Wales has fallen by nearly 20,000 since its peak level in 2009, Home Office figures show.

    There were 124,066 officers in the year ending March 2016 compared with 143,769 seven years ago - a fall of 14%.

    Both front line and local police numbers have fallen while officers on long-term sick leave have increased.

    The Police Federation for England and Wales said the figures were "deeply worrying and disappointing".

    Police budgets have faced significant cuts since 2010 - an overall 18% reduction in real terms.
  • Hence Labour 's pledge to recruit more police.
  • aliwibble said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Crass theory doing the rounds from the Loony Left that May has risen the threat level in order to further her cause with regards to the GE

    It's not beyond the realms of possibility.
    Oh come on. I know I have a reputation for being a rabid leftie on here, but even I don't think that. If they'd just upped the threat level without this happening, that might be one thing, but in the current circumstances, it's hardly surprising.
    I personally don't think it's the case but I'm also not naive enough to think that a politician wouldn't use something like this for their own gain. You just have to look at speeches by May and Rudd this week. Campaigning was suspended yet they are still there telling us how strong and stable we must be and that anti terror funding will be increased if they are reelected.
  • I agree that we should be recruiting more police, but recent tragic events would not be down to lack of resources. We need to make that clear - but back to the election, we need more bobbies on the beat, we need better care in hospitals and I hear from my wife who works in a school how tight budgets are (having to use teaching assistants to take classes because they can't afford replacement teachers). Labour has provided the most thouroughly costed proposals and those earning less than £80k a year don't have to pay more, and those earning that figure and more don't have to pay much more.

    Something I feel strongly about is animal rights. How we treat and respect animals defines us as a nation. Labour's policies in this area can be seen below.

    http://www.labour.org.uk/blog/entry/six-things-you-need-to-know-about-labours-plans-to-protect-animals
  • colthe3rd said:

    aliwibble said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Crass theory doing the rounds from the Loony Left that May has risen the threat level in order to further her cause with regards to the GE

    It's not beyond the realms of possibility.
    Oh come on. I know I have a reputation for being a rabid leftie on here, but even I don't think that. If they'd just upped the threat level without this happening, that might be one thing, but in the current circumstances, it's hardly surprising.
    I personally don't think it's the case but I'm also not naive enough to think that a politician wouldn't use something like this for their own gain. You just have to look at speeches by May and Rudd this week. Campaigning was suspended yet they are still there telling us how strong and stable we must be and that anti terror funding will be increased if they are reelected.
    They're doing their jobs, unfortunately this will have the effect of looking like campaigning.

    Have they really told us that anti terror funding will be increased if they are reelected during this crisis? I haven't seen it, be interested to if so.

    Purely in the abstract, a crisis in a campaign will help the incumbent. They'd be mad to even think about campaigning. They have free air time and the opposition muzzled, they don't need to campaign, just carry on doing their jobs.
  • we need more bobbies on the beat

    Do we? I'm sure I've read in the past that numbers on the street doesn't correlate to more arrests, it's more of a perception thing that people feel safer. That said I believe the cut for Police has been 20% under the Tories, that is unsustainable and clearly endangers safety.

    Agree on your other points though. The Mrs works in a school for special needs kids in a poor area and some of the things that are going on there are disgusting. Basically some kids they are just unable to give the education they need because of cuts. A number of times parents have taken the council to court and the council ends up paying out a settlement which ends up costing them more than had they just given the child the education they need. Is it any wonder teachers are leaving this country.
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