The issue we have now is that we don't know how many bombs are out there. It is possible it was just the one. Election campaigns attract crowds - Party leaders have to get amongst the people. I think it would be wise to suspend the election if the police are not confident of people's safety. They have to make their enquiries which has to be the priority.
And put a stop to the democratic process ?
Exactly what the bombers would see as a victory.
Exactly this. Carry on regardless stiff upper lip and all that.
It wouldn't be putting a stop to it, but delaying it. I am saying the call has to come from the police. They have to be confident of people's safety.
Sorry but I disagree. The civilised world has to get on with its life. Certainly put in place greater security and encourage everyone to be vigilant but I wouldn't want too much postponed as a consequence of this latest outrage. There will be crowds of people coming together up and down the country day in day out from elelectioneering to village fetes. Impossible to stop someone intent on causing mayhem.
You don't have to apologise - it is good to disagree and I see your point. I think the Police have to find out if there are any more bombs and people ready to use them. One of the reasons these atrocities happen close to each other is that the scum know that the police/security services will get them, so they have a small window of opportunity.
The Tory tactic until polling day will be about the character of the leaders, mainly because they have nothing much else to bring to the table in terms of policy. The U-TURN on the dementia tax only four days after the manifesto was published, along with other stuff like no election, or NI for the self employed, combined with a vacuum when indicating Brexit approaches suggests they have only got May v Corbyn to fall back on. The Tories may win, but it makes sense to me that as an electorate the people would be wise not to give them a free rein/ blank cheque. Apart from a fairer reflection on the Party votes for UKIP and the Greens I wouldn't mind seeing a standstill election where the make up of Parliament doesn't much change (if we can't have a Tory defeat that is).
The Tory tactic until polling day will be about the character of the leaders, mainly because they have nothing much else to bring to the table in terms of policy. The U-TURN on the dementia tax only four days after the manifesto was published, along with other stuff like no election, or NI for the self employed, combined with a vacuum when indicating Brexit approaches suggests they have only got May v Corbyn to fall back on. The Tories may win, but it makes sense to me that as an electorate the people would be wise not to give them a free rein/ blank cheque. Apart from a fairer reflection on the Party votes for UKIP and the Greens I wouldn't mind seeing a standstill election where the make up of Parliament doesn't much change (if we can't have a Tory defeat that is).
At the start that was the best I thought we could hope for, maybe with the LDs taking a number of seats back off the Tories in the South West leading to another hung parliament. Which then might (unlikely I know) have led to parties sitting around and agreeing that the country deserved something better like PR, cross party working, positive campaigning etc...
labour party - tax the wealthy ( those with vast disposable wedge sitting around ) will just move abroad and then they will have no tax to spend, with brexit looming places like dublin, paris will be where most big companies will base themselves, im all for the nhs as its in a desperate state currently, but more spend on social care, the amount of spongers i see lurking around bexleyheath kids by the dozen puffing cigarette after cigarette is a joke, its not just a immigrant issue there is plenty of white/british trash hanging around to, people too lazy to work, all this guff about i cant find a job, old dears an estate agent, and she deals with people that deliberately come to the area as the housing benefit is a lot more than other boroughs.
I wouldn't tax the wealthy, I would tax all of us, proportionately.
If that not what happens currently?
Or are you in favour of raising tax for everyone?
I want to raise tax for everybody after tha basics are taken care of. I would tax the wealthy more than average. Maybe the pertinant question is what to spend the money on.
I feel Corbyn is weak on this and defence, but to splash this all over immediately in the wake of yesterday's events is absolutely disgusting oppprtunism.
In fairness to the Sun, that headline was already out before the bombing hit the news (I was watching the paper review on Sky News when the news came in, and it was shown on screen), so it was unfortunate timing rather than opportunism. Haven't seen what today's front page looks like.
I feel Corbyn is weak on this and defence, but to splash this all over immediately in the wake of yesterday's events is absolutely disgusting oppprtunism.
In fairness to the Sun, that headline was already out before the bombing hit the news (I was watching the paper review on Sky News when the news came in, and it was shown on screen), so it was unfortunate timing rather than opportunism. Haven't seen what today's front page looks like.
I hope that is the case, because if not, they would have crossed a line.
labour party - tax the wealthy ( those with vast disposable wedge sitting around ) will just move abroad and then they will have no tax to spend, with brexit looming places like dublin, paris will be where most big companies will base themselves, im all for the nhs as its in a desperate state currently, but more spend on social care, the amount of spongers i see lurking around bexleyheath kids by the dozen puffing cigarette after cigarette is a joke, its not just a immigrant issue there is plenty of white/british trash hanging around to, people too lazy to work, all this guff about i cant find a job, old dears an estate agent, and she deals with people that deliberately come to the area as the housing benefit is a lot more than other boroughs.
Have I misread what you have said? Are you against social care? It reads like you don't understand what social care is, so if you do, you might want to change.
I wonder what the difference would be to the governments coughers if the rate of tax on all of the tax bands were increased by .5% or 1% across the board?
labour party - tax the wealthy ( those with vast disposable wedge sitting around ) will just move abroad and then they will have no tax to spend, with brexit looming places like dublin, paris will be where most big companies will base themselves, im all for the nhs as its in a desperate state currently, but more spend on social care, the amount of spongers i see lurking around bexleyheath kids by the dozen puffing cigarette after cigarette is a joke, its not just a immigrant issue there is plenty of white/british trash hanging around to, people too lazy to work, all this guff about i cant find a job, old dears an estate agent, and she deals with people that deliberately come to the area as the housing benefit is a lot more than other boroughs.
Have I misread what you have said? Are you against social care? It reads like you don't understand what social care is, so if you do, you might want to change.
does the benefit system not come under social care? if not then yes of course i retract it, as current care levels here are very bad my grandad was houseband before he died for about 4 years and the care he received was expensive and bad.
I feel Corbyn is weak on this and defence, but to splash this all over immediately in the wake of yesterday's events is absolutely disgusting oppprtunism.
In fairness to the Sun, that headline was already out before the bombing hit the news (I was watching the paper review on Sky News when the news came in, and it was shown on screen), so it was unfortunate timing rather than opportunism. Haven't seen what today's front page looks like.
I hope that is the case, because if not, they would have crossed a line.
The Sun came awfully close to crossing a line? Heavens
No, it isn't care - the care bit is care workers visiting or recieving care in residential homes. As you said - it is quite expensive and the recent row was about old people losing most of their savings to pay for it - unless they live in Scotland of course.
Social care means caring for the old and sick like you grandad and people with dementia..
'Social Care' are two weasel words politicians of all colours now use instead of the correct word 'nursing.'
Nursing comes under the National Health and thus the vulnerable people in need of it have worked 40 or 50 years and paid their taxes and national insurance in the not too unreasonable expectation of being entitled to it when they need it.
However the two home flipping expense stealing gangsters that masquerade as MPs and their acolytes within the Public Sector do not consider that they have had enough from these people and want to steal their houses from them and everything they have worked for during those 40 or 50 years bar £23K or £100K, depending on who you believe. You can put money on the fact that it will not be as straightforward as portrayed to keep the £100K or £23K either.
The wizard wheeze for this licenced extortion is to pretend that the care these people need isn't 'health care' ie nursing and thus free but 'social care' and thus payable. The fact that without the illness in question the poor victims would have no need for 'social care' is swept under the carpet as otherwise the whole racket of stealing homes is blown.
This is how the Conservatives can justify their attitude to inheritance tax. There is much more bunce from 'social care!' As for Labour and associated parties they hate people owning anything of their own and trying to be independent so their criticisms are hypocritical.
labour party - tax the wealthy ( those with vast disposable wedge sitting around ) will just move abroad and then they will have no tax to spend, with brexit looming places like dublin, paris will be where most big companies will base themselves, im all for the nhs as its in a desperate state currently, but more spend on social care, the amount of spongers i see lurking around bexleyheath kids by the dozen puffing cigarette after cigarette is a joke, its not just a immigrant issue there is plenty of white/british trash hanging around to, people too lazy to work, all this guff about i cant find a job, old dears an estate agent, and she deals with people that deliberately come to the area as the housing benefit is a lot more than other boroughs.
PH. If individuals or companies base themselves abroad in the near future it will have more to do with the Brexit vote than Corbyn. Dreamed up by Tories, mismanaged by Tories, campaign full of Tory lies by people still with cabinet jobs.
I am an unemployed accountant, and can't wait until some of my fellow professionals piss off home.
Conservatives ready to weaken everybody's cyber security. No evidence that the powers these changes would give them would've stopped the attack in Manchester.
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The U-TURN on the dementia tax only four days after the manifesto was published, along with other stuff like no election, or NI for the self employed, combined with a vacuum when indicating Brexit approaches suggests they have only got May v Corbyn to fall back on.
The Tories may win, but it makes sense to me that as an electorate the people would be wise not to give them a free rein/ blank cheque. Apart from a fairer reflection on the Party votes for UKIP and the Greens I wouldn't mind seeing a standstill election where the make up of Parliament doesn't much change (if we can't have a Tory defeat that is).
Or are you in favour of raising tax for everyone?
would tax the wealthy more than average.
Maybe the pertinant question is what to spend the money on.
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Nursing comes under the National Health and thus the vulnerable people in need of it have worked 40 or 50 years and paid their taxes and national insurance in the not too unreasonable expectation of being entitled to it when they need it.
However the two home flipping expense stealing gangsters that masquerade as MPs and their acolytes within the Public Sector do not consider that they have had enough from these people and want to steal their houses from them and everything they have worked for during those 40 or 50 years bar £23K or £100K, depending on who you believe. You can put money on the fact that it will not be as straightforward as portrayed to keep the £100K or £23K either.
The wizard wheeze for this licenced extortion is to pretend that the care these people need isn't 'health care' ie nursing and thus free but 'social care' and thus payable. The fact that without the illness in question the poor victims would have no need for 'social care' is swept under the carpet as otherwise the whole racket of stealing homes is blown.
This is how the Conservatives can justify their attitude to inheritance tax. There is much more bunce from 'social care!' As for Labour and associated parties they hate people owning anything of their own and trying to be independent so their criticisms are hypocritical.
Scum the lot of them.
I am an unemployed accountant, and can't wait until some of my fellow professionals piss off home.
Conservatives ready to weaken everybody's cyber security. No evidence that the powers these changes would give them would've stopped the attack in Manchester.