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The General Election - June 8th 2017

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  • What happens when the big companies and the rich move abroad because they don't like the tax hike?

    We need to improve our public services..
  • Leuth said:

    Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.

    He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)

    Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answered
    Are businesses only allowed to go to a G7 member?
    Yeah don't they go to places like the Cayman islands and Ireland.
  • McBobbin said:

    Leuth said:

    Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.

    He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)

    Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answered
    He said that as well. Eventually. When there's an easy answer I wish he'd just say it, then expand. I like that Corbyn is thoughtful and nuanced, and gives reasoned answers rather than clichés and soundbites (like May) but he did waffle a fair bit tonight.
    I don't think there are easy answers to complex questions.
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    I am sure I have just seen Jonah from Veep in the spin room.
  • Leuth said:

    Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.

    He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)

    Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answered
    And if you think businesses are seriously going to go to Outer Mongolia just for a better tax rate, you're wrong.
    The most valuable companies in the world today comprise people and some server rooms.
    To extrapolate the argument, rre you suggesting that we should have the lowest rate in the world to attract all and any business?
  • My main takeaway from both the Q&A sessions is that they should raise the voting age to 40.
  • The Labour Party continue to fuck up the nuclear issue in the spin room. Do they actually want to win this election.
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    Leuth said:

    Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.

    He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)

    Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answered
    And if you think businesses are seriously going to go to Outer Mongolia just for a better tax rate, you're wrong.
    The most valuable companies in the world today comprise people and some server rooms.
    To extrapolate the argument, rre you suggesting that we should have the lowest rate in the world to attract all and any business?
    No but let's not pretend we hold all of the aces....
  • Leuth said:

    Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.

    He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)

    Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answered
    That literally hasn't answered the question he was asked..
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  • My main takeaway from both the Q&A sessions is that they should raise the voting age to 40.

    Lower the mandatory euthanasia age to 45 and I might agree
  • McBobbin said:

    Leuth said:

    Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.

    He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)

    Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answered
    He said that as well. Eventually. When there's an easy answer I wish he'd just say it, then expand. I like that Corbyn is thoughtful and nuanced, and gives reasoned answers rather than clichés and soundbites (like May) but he did waffle a fair bit tonight.
    I don't think there are easy answers to complex questions.
    I completed agree - but that wasn't a particularly complex question, and most of what he said was irrelevant. Ok I understand that politicians have to shoehorn their points in, but I was getting a bit frustrated.

    He did better than may though I thought.
  • Why do old people care about nuclear war so much?

    I'd probably put it at around #1000000000000000 of likely things to kill me in the future.

    Old people and that one bug-eyed goon who needs to die
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    Leuth said:

    Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.

    He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)

    Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answered
    Yer, not worth moving HQ to Ireland or Bermuda :smile: It won't be the smaller companies, but larger corps will go where business is best and in a number of industries (mine included) an amount has already left the UK and will continue at a far greater pace if Labour are elected.

    Plus for every one company that re-domiciles you also lose a bucket load of tax & NI (both employer and employee) which will probably far outweigh the corp tax receipt they lose at any rate.
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  • It's about the only argument the Tory boys feel they can pin him into a corner on. That's why they're so blood thirsty, IMO.
  • Leuth said:

    My main takeaway from both the Q&A sessions is that they should raise the voting age to 40.

    Lower the mandatory euthanasia age to 45 and I might agree
    You mean I won't get to see Karl Robinson's team win the 2017/18 League title? :-(
  • Leuth said:

    Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.

    He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)

    Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answered
    That literally hasn't answered the question he was asked..
    Didn't it? The suggestion was that if Corporation Tax was raised, companies would move to other countries. The response was that Labour's proposal to raise Corporation Tax would still result in the UK having the lowest rates of the other G7 countries, and with CT still being lower that it was in 2010. So, if companies did decide to leave the UK, it would clearly be for other reasons.
    Why couldn't they move to Ireland?
  • Leuth said:

    Why do old people care about nuclear war so much?

    I'd probably put it at around #1000000000000000 of likely things to kill me in the future.

    Old people and that one bug-eyed goon who needs to die
    that bloke was a tool. comes out with well if we got it we might as well use it

    I so wish Jeremy replied "ok, well who do you suggest we bomb first?"

  • Leuth said:

    Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.

    He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)

    Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answered
    That literally hasn't answered the question he was asked..
    Didn't it? The suggestion was that if Corporation Tax was raised, companies would move to other countries. The response was that Labour's proposal to raise Corporation Tax would still result in the UK having the lowest rates of the other G7 countries, and with CT still being lower that it was in 2010. So, if companies did decide to leave the UK, it would clearly be for other reasons.
    Why couldn't they move to Ireland?
    Do they want to do business in our very wealthy economy? We are about to leave the EU after all and about to negotiate a lot of new trade deals.
  • Leuth said:

    Why do old people care about nuclear war so much?

    I'd probably put it at around #1000000000000000 of likely things to kill me in the future.

    Old people and that one bug-eyed goon who needs to die
    that bloke was a tool. comes out with well if we got it we might as well use it

    Thing is, he said he'd rather have it and not use it than not have it.

    No idea why Corbyn didn't just say 'Good, that's the whole Labour plan.'
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